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Kiki chose to totally ignore the Sperg-chan revelations (https://lolcow.farm/kiki
) and continue with her love and light empath goddess who is stalked by haters for NO REASON act as she pursues a career acting in student films and F-grade horrors under the name 'Lilou Vos'.
She continues to inspire us by working more than one hour a day.
Previous thread: >>333878
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I think so.
I wonder if Kiki will claim it was make-up for the role.
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Is she in Japan or did she post an old picture? And I know that it's a popular spot, but Taylor was there recently. I just always wonder if she's still obsessed with her, but I don't think stuff like that changes quickly. >>358699
Huh. They're definitely not make-up though. The short film was terrible (not even only her acting, the editing was the worst part) and there's no way they could have done believable scar make-up.
I'm sorry but of course
Kiki would be the type of person to cut their forearm given her attention needing ways.
definitely self-harm. Cats scars are more chaotic, not this paralleled and frequently short and relatively deep. Cat scars may hit deep in a short bit when the claw just tears into skin. If they scratch longer it's usually less deep. Nothing this consistent either way.
Meaning Kaka had a meltdown recently, probably after the sperg reveal. These are likely to stem from one singular self-harm episode, too.
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It is self-harming caused by a small razor blade (probably she ripped of from a Gillete or something). I'm pretty sure because I used to cut in my 11-13 (edgy kid, not proud of that) and my scars look just like that.
I used to make it little so if anyone would spot it I would say it was the cat. Probably same shit with her.
Sage for blogging
agreeing on this.
they are all so short, and on the TOPSIDE of her arm. They definitely look like a part of the video/makeup. Everyone is jumping to conclusions too fast on this one I'm afraid.
yeah if you only know emos from 2008 that draw lines and scissors onto their wrists / designated cutting places and can't imagine that people cut anywhere on their bodies, then that makes sense
the scars are real
>>358760>So these scars could be from her scene queen days, when people cut to be a good emo and seem deep.
please. if that were true they would have been noticed ages and ages ago. think about how much people scrutinize her every appearance in photos and videos, no way that would have gone unnoticed for years or even months.
i agree with the anon who said it might have been from her recent breakdown.
Anyone think it could be the special effect department aka photoshop?
Not convinced she'd cut the top of her arm.
I'm with you, except I think they're a cheap makeup effect and not anything digital.
Someone took their sweet time to lovingly light those tiny uniform-length scars for a closeup. Character detail for woman sold into sex work.
i really doubt these are real. as, TMI, someone who used to cut the shit out of themselves, it's actually pretty difficult to scar that top part of your arm like that.
and most people who are cutting in seriousness (like, hard enough to scar) aren't going to do it somewhere so visible. i cut myself on my arms sometimes, but generally i did it on my legs or stomach so i could hide it much easier. people who try to cut purely for attention might do it in a visible spot, but kiki really doesn't seem the type to do that, as crazy as she is. definitely looks like makeup considering how it was focused on and how kiki just doesn't seem like a self-harmer.
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Well if Rec ever comes out with a new movie she'd be perfect for it.
OK I know this is from the last thread but
> The film is less than 5 minutes and Kiki is in about a third of that. What long hours she must have worked!
SHE CLAIMED SHE WORKED 21 HOURS ON THAT FILM
On the scars, Kiki really doesn't seem like a self harmer but also there'd be no point of the girls doing the film in trying to put up fake ones.
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Also. She claimed that she'd "share it with her followers" once it was out. We'll. It's out Kaka…. and you're more worried in posting your "cute but psycho" film-selfies-shots-whatever
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Sage for samefagging
Maybe not. Maybe she'll stay silent and let her followers keep asking where she got those or if they're real etc or even go full blown victim and blame us somehow?>>358842
OMG if this shot alone is not proof she needs a hair change, idk what else is
I'm offended she'd compare herself to Nicholson's performance in the Shining
I don't even think it's meant to be a joke
Man, the Ostrengas have pretty unfortunate jawlines. Even though Kiki is fairly skinny there's just no definition there. There's no hope for Kota, even if she does slim down.
I wonder if Kiki will ragequit the acting career when she realises that she can't control her image and there's inevitably going to be unflattering shots of her in every project.
I think it was just something they did to be edgy. I was one of the ones whole called it out to be "smiley" lighter burns as they were weird circle shapes. Both of them went thru that edgy scene kid phase where bruises and cuts/scars are "cool"..
My sister did the same shit when she was younger and now has the exact same scars as Kaka and Tooters. ( same location too )
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Can people stop with this faggotry?
Both the dislikes and the edgy comment. For the other people working on this film it will only confirm Lilou's claims that she has haters stalking and bullying her everywhere she goes. The other actress doesn't deserve to be put down either, even if she wasn't brilliant she's no cow so give it a rest.
>>358841>highschool project realness
She looks like if you stretched Dakota's face longer in pshop.>>358952>>358956
Since she and Koots ride old asian dick like Mario Kart it should be bundles of yen but this also works.>>358957
It's obviously not someone from here retard. Go report it on youtube?
This is the only 'hate site' the film's been posted on so far but ok.
I'm not sure what reporting the comment is meant to achieve - it was more a general message to not interfere with the cows and especially not people who are only somewhat related to them. It only makes us look like obsessive bullies which is exactly what Kaka has been saying to people.
Is it wrong that this made me laugh? That was quite funny. Looks a bit like the usual "YouTube hate comment".
BUT I do agree with you that everyone taking part in this thread should avoid commenting anything "troll-y" in the future (there are enough YouTube commenters out there to do it)
Maybe comment smthg nice about Kiki though "OMG the blonde girl looks like a japanese anime fairy, her acting is so good is there Oscar for short films WHO IS SHE". For the shits and giggles.
She looks 50 in OPs pic.
I initially didn't think much of Kiki as a cow goldmine until she sperged out so badly here.>>358723
I've got cat scars on my wrists of all places plus my forearms. And they don't look like that. A cat would have to be really pissed at you to scratch you that many times. So maybe they are makeup? They look so puffy I can't tell. But my eyes aren't good anyway.
Oh god, this is giving me life !
I hope Kaka is lurking today and sees this. She'll be fucking seething.
Like another anon said, I'm never going to judge her for self harming. She obviously has some deep issues that she needs help getting through.
Also, to everyone saying that only people who are attention seeking cut on their arms– your experience is not everyone else's. No matter what, if you are hurting yourself to the point of scarring, you are experiencing some very real internal anguish that needs to be addressed by a professional.
Anyway, Kaka is pretty terrible at acting. She also looks physically ill.
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I made a collage of her arms in the other shot when she's in the nightdress. It's the same arm, but I don't see any scars on these stills? They did zoom in on the scars on her arm in the handcuff and red dress scene so maybe the scars were intentional for the movie. I just don't know. But I do remember back in MySpace days when I was friends with Dakota when she only had a couple hundreds of friends, and even when she gained more as "Kiki's sister" and started appearing in those stupid emo/scene photo shoots with her sister that she would mention emo shit about cutting and self harm and crying and being depressed every now and then. I wasn't sure back then if it was legit or just for show to "be more emo" but it really wouldn't surprise me. She had a self esteem problem then and they were best friends back then, so maybe they both did. But either way, pic related.
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I def vote this an OP or banner. Amazing.
I nominate this for an OP pic as well.>SOLD
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Okay, it's DEFINATELY someone on this board, whose gonna confess?
what does this achieve tho? so dumb
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"Daisy who?? Whatever this F-horror movie has more shots of me and that's what matters"
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Apparently Kiki found her soul mate ("vegan indigo Japan stuff etc" plus the retard typing)
Idk about y'all but I ship these two
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Look at this bio
Sage for shitposting
iirc they've been mari has been licking kaka's butt
talking to each other at least since 2014~2015
I thought kiki would block her at first but apparently she's okay with her
Totally agree. >>358956
Top fucking kek >>359007
Agreed with this as well.
Even if it's "attention seeking", there is something mentally or emotionally stunted to want to do this to yourself. I feel like we would have seen it sooner if they're old, and I don't think she would want to disfigure herself now. In any case, time will eventually tell.
i checked the account too. seems legit enough cause there's history of vulgar comments going back like 6-7 years (and lots of shane dawson hate lol), but then it doesn't make sense how that person would find the daisy video, since it's not obvious that it's about trafficking unless you watch it, and it only has 50 views, so if you're a random dude why bother watching it?
eh i wonder if it's some kaka's relative's account
erummm sorry for sounding like a newfag, but does anyone outside of chan sites use the word "stan"?
>THASS WUT IM TALKIN BOUT
^Kiki's trademark writing style>>359060>Vegan, Indigo, Empath, Environmentally Conscious
there is no fucking way Mari isn't a regular lurker on here.
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whoever this is, you can stop shitting up the comments anytime lmao
sage for tangent but
this profile pisses me off so much. all those stupid emoji crap and then "Mari", then she literally says "My name is Mari" after that. WHY. She doesn't even use the correct kanji for name afaik. Then she says "I'm American." No shit. Then she randomly has "Japan" in her profile in Kanji.
I'm American and studying Japanese but this is some entry-level 101 weeb bullshit. Grats on knowing how to say 1.5 things.
Just wanted to throw that info out in case people wanted to know what that said. gj being able to semi-introduce yourself kiddo. Lord knows why her profile needs her name plastered on top three times in a row.
samefag but i wanted to clarify i meant the word "name", not her name which is written in katakana
Taylor's got a new acting gig in Japan >>>/snow/268587
More content to edit in!
ahahaha, this is amazing.
Taylor getting acting jobs in actual japanese tv-dramas while Kiki is stuck doing 5-minute youtube college projects.
WELL isn't that interesting. Karma's a bitch huh.
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(Sage for shitposting)
Apparently to some people it's normal living off your parents for a quarter of a century while bouncing from one failed career/attempt at attention whoring to another lol. You're spoiled af if you think it's normal not doing anything productive at age 24.>>359248
Probably not, but the main benefit of acting in films like this would not be the money anyways, it would be establishing connections with other people who are trying to make it in the film industry, polishing your skills and getting your name out there. If you're lucky it might pay off eventually. Keekz has no tenacity anyways, she will ragequit her acting career when she doesn't make it big within a year and acting will never be mentioned again, just like poledancing, making music, studying asian languages and all the other shit she pretended to like. She has no real interest in anything apart from herself, everything she does is for show.
Kek that's why it's pretty funny that Kaka's trying to make it big in this industry with her personnality and occasional paranoid outbursts. She's pretty much set to fail but that's only my humble opinion.
She's going to end up like those waiters waiting to make it big after being in a film once or twice.
Honestly I will never get how some people will throw themselves into extremely harsh and difficult industries (movie, modeling or music) with absolutely NO backup plan. That's cool to pursue your dreams and maybe take a year or two to do that but imo the best thing is still to work crazy hard on a back-up plan and go to college, to at least score an office job that pays the bills.
It's because they're spoiled brats and attention whores. They do not understand that even if you have talent, passion, motivation and good looks, you still have to be incredibly fortunate to ever get anywhere in careers like these. Kaka was myspace-famous (lol) at an extremely early age, and ever since then her parents have been feeding her a never-ending string of bullshit stories about how she's such a special little indigo child. On one hand she is used to getting tons of attention for very little effort, on the other hand she was brainwashed into believing she really can do all the things she attempts because she's perfect.
To me the saddest thing is not that she's not successful, it's that she doesn't have a single genuine interest. Everything she does, she does hoping it will get her attention. She gives up immediately when it doesn't work. 24 years old and everything about her is artificial.
I feel like the thread image should be exploited too, like >>358956
. Perhaps she's cutting up the old invites she made for her and Taco's supposed wedding… Any ideas?
>>359268>if everyone at 24 did what you all say is "productive" and "responsible" you wouldnt have most of the amazing things that are out there.
Actually people who made it spent years in a 9-5 jobs while pursuing their dream careers on the side (except for when they had a SO to support them while they worked full time for their dreams). Bills gotta be paid, hon.>>359271>To me the saddest thing is not that she's not successful, it's that she doesn't have a single genuine interest. Everything she does, she does hoping it will get her attention. She gives up immediately when it doesn't work.
That's indeed the saddest thing. She used to vlog and make YouTube tutorials which had lots of views and to this day people keep asking her to come back - but she won't do it bc not 100% of the people will praise her and she'd to actually put effort into them.
Modeling - she CLEARLY wants to make it for the praise (hur dur me pretty) but never got around to even trying
Music - went to uni for it. Bought all sorts of music equipment. Dropped it at a bat of a lash.
Now, acting: it seems she has a good relationship with people on set so maybe it's a good thing but again, it's unlikely she'll receive all the appraisal she thinks she's deserving of and might as well drop it bc haters.
Lol holy shit someone's mad
>not everyone belongs in college or a 9-5
Tfw you're too special for normal human society
It's not oppressive to have a backup plan in a realistic career, or a part-time job to support yourself while you get your shit together. It's called not being a spoilt little shit.
>follow your passion>get your head out of your ass and into reality
Choose one. ~Following your dreams~ is not always going to work, Hollywood is not a charity organization and they are most likely not waiting for a balding haggard mentally unstable vegan goddess who decided on a whim in her mid 20s that being an actress is what she wants to do with her life. Who needs experience and acting talent amirite?
Btw, pro tip: People who have some actual passion do not care if they can monetize their interests or not. They do what they love, precisely because they love it, and not because they crave the attention. If you are not talented or fortunate enough to turn your hobby into a job, it would always be an option to do boring ass slave labor at your 9-5 job just like all the other sheeple, and do what you love in your free time. I have a friend who sings, he does not make enough cash with his music to support himself so he has a regular job but still does concerts on the side. The moment he gets an opportunity to quit his job and sing full time he will obviously do it, but if nothing ever comes up he can still support himself. That's how realistic, intelligent and hard-working people do it.
Someone hit a nerve there kiddo?
Theres no issue with going after your dream, but this is KIKI were talking about here. Every "dream" she's had has fallen to the waste side when it doesn't propel her to fame. YouTube, music, Japan, etc. We're not talking about any other person out there that works hard for their goal, because most of those people DO have back ups, like s regular job or something. Even if it's something they hate, they know they need to work to make money. That's just life.
Meanwhile Kiki gets to live in Cali while her parents most likely pay for everything because there is no way she's making enough to live in her own.
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They still speak like tards
Is this the real life? She must be playing up this shit to get on Kiki's good side.
Little does she know how much Kiki hates other girls, especially if they do the same things she does (see: her reaction to Taylor's existence).
Nah she seems like an ex-scene kid turned weeb. Her entire instagram is painful af.
OT but it seems to me like ex-scene/alternative kids make the most insufferable weebs (see also Kiki). They seem to have this strange combination of entitlement in the face of complete mediocrity that baffles the mind.
Have you been to LA? So many homeless people who moved there in hopes of becoming a rich actor. Countdown till Kaka's one of them.>>359268
24 IS a midlife crisis if you spent the best years of your life and your youth whoring out and sperging on the internet for attention.
After those formative years you're stuck in the same habits for the rest of your life. Look at how Kaka types and spergs out. She's stuck in the myspace days.
Can she even deny her hair is straight up brown now?
"It's getting blonder and blonder, guys!"
She should've stuck with YouTube imo; she had an okay amount of subs and could have built on that if she kept putting out content regularly, even if it was just her weird makeup tutorials with her dumb ~random n quirky xD~ side skits added in. It was stupid but it obviously appealed to some amount of people. Her smoothie recipe videos also weren't bad.
But instead of focusing on it, she got greedy and wanted more fame and thus ensued the attempt at becoming a DJ, going to Japan hoping for them to notice her and make her famous just for being a white gaijin princess, the love & light Instagram celeb persona and now the LA actress Lilou Vos.
Kaka is just so fame hungry and nothing less than being an A-list celebrity is good enough for her. That's why she drops her shit and moves onto the next thing when she realises it isn't going to make her world famous.
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>>359476>best years of your life
fucking rich anon
Nah in the very beginning when she posted videos regularly (circa 2012? 2013?) They used to get quite a decent amount of views
But like anon said, she abandoned it because haters
I don't believe that. I'm sure people who wanted to watch the train wreck would watch her videos when they got posted but she had around 40k subs at the time and got around 15-20k views. All of that isn't PULL. If she actually WORKED on her shit and made it better quality, focused more on the beauty part of her channel (reviews, tutorials, swatches, etc.) she could have done really well.
But Kiki expects everything to be handed to her.
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She's had her account since 2007 and has just over 1 million video views total.
Dakota has had hers since 2011 and her videos have are pushing 54 million views.
The majority of Kiki's video fame was Stickam-based. She never made a significant ripple on YT despite her pre-existing MySpace infamy.
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Is it possible Kiki got the meaning of the short film all wrong?
Judging by the description in the video and the video itself looks more like girls selling away their souls for beauty and modeling industry
There's nothing about sex trafficking on this.
>>359662>Is it possible
It's Kiki. It's almost certain as she only hears what she wants to hear.
To be honest it always seemed like a metaphor for conforming to today's beauty standards and literally "selling yourself" to society. It's not even a really hard crazy concept to grasp and Keek's still managed to take that literally.
What an artist …
And (I'm stretching here) Maybe that's why she didn't say anything so her followers - bc she realized she'd screwed up what the movie she was in is all about
Either way, hilarious kanye's voice
>>359670> didn't say anything to her followers
As in, she said she couldn't wait to share it with them but said jackshit about it and turned to the "hur dur I'm jack Nicholson" project real quick
Sage for samefagging
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It's weird that she's still using her mmmkikikannibal twitter account and hasn't changed it to lilouvos like she did with her other accounts.
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She has another one for Lilou Vos.
I saw both sides to be honest. The film has a double metaphor. Or even a "you want to be beautiful? Thats cute. We'll take your innosence."
What I am worried about is how sick she looks.
jesus christ. knowing this, the video actually makes sense.
she did the creators a disservice by misconstruing, what it's about.
how can someone be so dense.
That's true. But sex trafficking really is a stretch from what the movie looks like it wants to deliver ( I only really could think "we'll this DOES look a bit like sextraffic bc Kiki mentioned it). It's not a "THE THEME IS X" kind of thing.
She should've thought before opening her big mouth on things she doesn't understand IMO
Her legit followers couldve been interested in actually watching it but I doubt she'll tell them about it by now
(And therefore creates another empty promise for the little fuckers to grab on like she did with all her other followers)
Sage for samefagging etc etc sorry
Shes too modest to say it's a film about her life lol
Jokes aside, guess we can conclude the obsessive haters (us) understand more about the films Kiki acts in than Kiki herself?
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the "no-bangs volumeless ~natural~ hair and minimal makeup" thing looks really unflattering on her. to be fair, it looks really unflattering on most people. she never had to use as much photoshop as dako because imo, kiki is naturally pretty; she always had tons of makeup and reflectors and shit, sure. but she knew her angles and was naturally skinny and had good facial structure. even if her scene look is outdated, it looks SO much better on her even today.
wonder if she'll ever go back to it. the closest thing to edgy scene style now is probably instagram faux-ghetto a la toopoor and co. i think she could rock that.
no what? those are opinions anon, you're free to have your own just like i am
you can't tell me you didn't look at kiki when you were a young teen and go "damn she looks cool". its why she got so popular in the first place
Obviously, no, I disagree. I'm not a fan, never have been, do not think she's attractive nor has she ever been.
>>you can't tell me you didn't look at kiki when you were a young teen and go "damn she looks cool".
Actually, yes, I can tell you that. She looked like a retard then, and looks awful now. Her MySpace looks were based on heavy contrast, MS paint level shoops, and early PS filters. Even something like this >>359964
photo on the left, isn't Kiki "knowing her angles" - it's Scott directing her, he's the one who shot all her photos, and Kota did her editing.
It's all smoke and mirrors, and I have never even found the smoke and mirrors attractive; she was a plain child who grew a giant schnoz, has stringy, thinning hair, and is malnourished.
These "fangirls" - hi, Kiki.
I remember those days. I could NOT for the love of GOD see anything attractive on her.
She's probably trying to achieve a "model off duty" now? I mean, it's the hairstyle models use when they have their Polaroids taken.
Either way, it's been a while and I doubt she'll change it.
That no-bangs, natural, volume-less hair and minimal makeup look you're describing only looks good on girls who are naturally 10/10 and literal model material. While I also think Kiki is pretty, she's not pretty enough for that look– but as you said, neither are most people (myself included.)
She needs to find a niche that works for her. Because she honestly looks ill and corpse-like with her current style. A hard fact to face in life is that we don't always fit into the style we wish we could. We have to work with what we have to figure out what's the most flattering for us. Kiki has to be open to that if she wants to look good, and not like the decaying corpse she looks like now.
Also, I'm really curious to hear your guys' opinions on this: does anyone think Kiki might have an ED?
Yes, but for that the person needs to acknowledge it and want to change
Anything we say here it's because we are haters who don't get her "unique style"
I don't think she has an ED though. She's the kind of person who's naturally very skinny - and could sure use some strengthening exercise routine (like pole dance and pilates - aka the things she dropped at a bat of a lash bc fads)
Hahaha different anon but so salty!
"Hi Kiki"is more of a joke than anything else at this point. Also,if you check history most of anon s who popped in Kiki's past threads "defending" Kiki or saying "check my IP I'm not her" WERE all Kiki LOL
Just. Calm down, beauty-Chan. Breathe deep. Go meditate.
Sage for derailing
Please do not post pictures of yourself, even for a comparison. It's not worth it.
Just in case anyone is still doubting, those self-harm scars look very real. They are probably more than a year old. The ones on my arms look the same. Really, that's all that needs to be said.
you're comparing a bad screenshot of her making a face in bad lighting to.. her dad's edited outdoor photoshoot. ofc she's gonna look better on the right.
keep in mind, no one's ever had a unedited candid image of her during the scene, all photos were uploaded by herself. so who knows if in the same bad lighting the added pounds of makeup and bleached straw hair might have looked even worse.
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Also Christina Ricci brags about her self harm.
Also the countless celebrities who restrict and binge/purge.
since everyone was discussing whiteknighting and the hi kiki meme, ill just say that im kiki before anyone points fingers.
but really, i do agree with >>359964
. i think kiki is naturally pretty. basic, but pretty.
i know anons will say its all photoshop and shit, but i do think she has a nice face, and even her bigforead doesnt make her look bad. its just a big forehead, lots of people have them and in the past it was something women wanted to have.
also, just let it be known i said pretty
, not gorgeous or incredibly beautiful elf goddess. but shes nowhere as ugly as people claim.
ugly on the inside? YES. outside? debatable to say the least.
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KaKa's scars are trivial compared to her obvious lack of talent.
Does she even take acting classes?
just watched Daisy. yeah, late, ik. Kiki's acting was bad as usual but overall it was a nice idea. >>358957
is absolutely right and people in the comments like >>359203
Anastasia McBush who looks absolutely terrifying should stop with that shit. the other girl clearly noticed something was wrong with calling her forehead girl.
suicide fag here, it isn't attention seeking. borderline people are the most common to use it for attention, but clearly they have a disorder as well. Her's look like they were all from one session and it's well documented on this site that she has delusional episodes. She probably disassociated to a certain degree and did this. We are the same age and it's pretty universally embarrassing to self harm, especially for someone as vain as her.
I have no idea why they did not put stage make up on her arms to cover them, no matter what she claims them to be.
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She took the sort of acting classes where you pay and get to appear in a stage production at the end of the course.
As long as the payment clears they're not going to stop her cartoonish YouTube Personality mugging. For reference, enjoy this subtle reaction shot of Shane Dawson in a film. Keeks-quality.
OT but for Keeks, since I'm sure she's reading here:
derma rolling scars has been rumored to help reduce their appearance. You could cough up the dough for laser treatment, but your scars are small enough that derma rolling may be able to help.
>>360111>I have no idea why they did not put stage make up on her arms to cover them, no matter what she claims them to be.
Most likely didn't have the budget. None of the girls were given red shoes that fit them correctly, so they did not exactly spend big to make sure everything would look right
I suppose as long as she doesn't play anybody for whom it would be very out of character to cut, the scars wouldn't be that big of a deal anyways.
She has no experience, no talent and no tenacity, if she isn't Angelina Jolie levels of famous by the same time next year, she will never mention acting again, buy a sewing machine, sew white bedsheets together and make angelic irl Final Fantasy girl couture.
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isn't it a little embarrassing if they don't know her last name? or like, she's irrelevant to them enough that they won't look it up >>360438>>Calling Kiki blonde
well she can't say "that forehead girl" too lol
This is how I felt as well, a veritable selection of copied ideas that have already been better executed in actual films.>>360406>forehead girl>natural beauty>the typing style
This is totally an Ostrenga sleeper account.
Tf, that person was obviously an anon from here or a random troll who remembers her. Yeah, Kiki would def call herself forehead girl. Lol. They were being ironic.
Also she obviously knows Kiki's last name (I mean, "lilou's"), otherwise she wouldn't have written it in the credits. Literally it's there.
She probably didn't answer and said only the first name because she felt something was wrong and didn't want "Anastasia McBush" to google Kiki.
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Not trying to conclude your post but this is how I feel on the matter (with a little armchairing)…
At any point before (and now, too), she could've taken an honest, long hard look at her life / self and realized that she needs professional help and to change. She pretty much brought this onto herself. She is immature and irresponsible, for herself and everyone around her. She's a spoiled brat.
On the other hand, self-harm is sad because it shows she's really just deeply unhappy and confused. It pretty much drops the illusion she's ~thriving~ with her massive ego and reveals she's just miserable and dysfunctional. That makes her more human again. But unless she chooses to turn her life around, there is little redeemable about this.
She has all the tools to succeed. She has parents who kiss her ass and obviously have too much money to spend on their golden child. If they can pay for her acting classes, an LA appartment and Japan trips, they could pay for therapy sessions and a second degree she could put to good use. She wouldn't look that bad if she picked a more flattering style, and I'm of the opinion that once the initial cravings for attention went away, she'd be so much healthier and better off if she nuked all her social media accounts and stopped obsessing over what people say about her online. If she really wanted to change, she could. It would not be easy but she'd have a chance.
The thing is that she doesn't want to. She only ever attributes failure to other people, never herself. Her personality is poop and no amount of therapy and retweeting love and light quotes will ever fix that. People like her don't get better. They can't.
Absolutely. In a way she's exactly like those child stars who used to be a huge deal when they were younger, but stopped being relevant when they aged horribly. She got so much attention for little to no effort at such an early age. That's why she tries soooo hard to stay relevant. It's not like she has a genuine passion for any of the things she tries to become famous for, it's all just for attention. To her it's normal when everything revolves around her.
If she is capable of change at all, she'd need a really REALLY loud wakeup call. But as long as she keeps living in her bubble of carefully monitored internet presence, edited selfies, censored comments and asspatter parents, that's very unlikely to happen anytime soon. What a waste. There is no reason why she shouldn't be a normally functioning adult by now, apart from her ego.
Does she even still care about Japan though? I somehow doubt she's genuinely interested in asian men. I always thought she was just whoring around in Japan attempting to sink her claws into a visa husbando so that she could become a famous model and one-up Taylor and her sister. Her Japan phase lasted what, 10 months tops?
Tbh I think the biggest concern is her having a complete mental breakdown. She's not as hot as she thinks she is, but she'd find someone to take care of her if she tried. I wonder how hard she will flip once she hits her thirties and she's still not famous tho.
I think she cares a little since she's currently with a Japanese guy. I wouldn't be surprised if she plans on trying to get fame in Japan again after this whole acting thing inevitably fails.
I also doubt it as well. It's been mentioned plenty of times before, but when her likes/comments were public on fb (iirc this was like a few months prior to her Japan obsession), she only liked and commented on the pics of alternative/hipster looking white guys. And right before Taku, she was tweeting at one of the sprouse twins and I think Norman Reedus as well? to hang out with her in Japan.
"Is it something within me that's my problem with people even IRL (when I end up having the same issues I cause online)…. or is everyone else's fault and the fault of instant messaging and anons?"
Sounds like she's getting rejected on tinder, lol. Also sounds close to tears.
The "pattern" she experiences, when she meets ppl via classes, or meetup groups: "people like to cross my boundaries and become inappropriate with me, especially physically, any gender. Am I giving of a vibe that I don't have any boundaries?"
Well, when you dress like a new age stripper and literally anything you think of pours out of your mouth instantly, and your commentary (if we can judge from the way you and Dakota still talk online) becomes sexual or scatalogical within microseconds - people may get the impression you are very open. This behavior will only be attractive to other very open people.
"People think I'm mysterious before they get to know me." Well, you do change your name a lot, have no friends and no history every time you meet someone new, and again, dress like a new age hooker. I don't know if you're considered mysterious as much as a bit odd.
"Maybe I'm too open? Nah, it's probably everyone else's animalistic human need to devour an innocent space princessu. And I'd like to link this to people people open on social media. Not my fault, I guess."
People crossing physical boundaries with her (pulling her onto their laps, tweaking her nose, etc): oh sweetheart, you picked the wrong career and meetup groups. Theater and acting groups are incestuous pods of physical, over sharers. They are extremely expressive people with little to no understanding of physical boundaries. And that trebles when it comes to the horror porn genre - you are gonna get pawed by directors and producers. Don't like these things? Get out of the scene.
6:00 in. Christ this is boring.
More and more about blaming her personal problems interesting irl on "the digital media and online" messing everyone ELSE up.
Again: "Is it within me, or the influence of technology on others?" Take a guess where she lays the blame.
Wow at 8:00 she starts to reaally rant on how this is every else's fault. Starts mild but then says everyone expects her to be the shining star and entertain the whole group and it's SUCH a burden.. hey probably tweak your nose to try to get you to shut the hell up, spaz. Christ. Sounds like she acts just like her old stikam broadcasts.
And when she tires herself out, and she feels like other people aren't spazzing back, that's the internet's fault. Really.
It's unlikely for a vegan moogle empath of mother earth but someone on eFagz once claimed to have spotted her working the counter at a Wendy's.
This was around the time Kiki came up with a story that a customer at work was stalking her, so the manager had to call the police. Ultimately she quit the job.
9:00 "I'm being out in the position of the entertainer, and it's suddenly MY job to entertain everyone.."
Omg you literally chose to be an entertainer as your career. You did it inadvertently as a child. You can stop it any time you want to.
"I'm getting drained by other people, and then people aren't friends with me because I never call them back." So she acts like a spastic, then makes no effort to maintain friendships, and expects people to continuously approach her… and this is her doing all the work.
10:00 Had a retail job, a black man had the nerve to buy her presents, and another man flirted with her and grabbed her wrist.
Princess, that's retail. Men think you are flirting with them because you're not allowed to be rude to customers, and they think it means something. You know how many waitresses have customers who think they have a relationship with them? All of them. You're not special.
11:00 Blames her manager for her not being able to handle customers. Instead of laughing at the guy who grabbed her hand and wanted to dance, extracting her hand and saying I'm working, I can't leave, have fun without me (because you will face those situations every fucking day in retail), Kiki expected her manager to handle the problem for her, ran away and tried to hide in the back of the store yet again. Then she calls her mom, and Cathy calls the cops, which causes havoc. Bet the store did great sales when Kiki was on the floor.
11:30 got her "audio engineering degree" and "started working at a studio". Worked as an audio engineer, and did their SOCIAL NETWORKING. Owner of the studio flirts with the chick who wears quasi bondage gear to work and calls her Kinky Kiki.
I'm only at 12:15 but please someone else do this it's so boring.
Yeah I got to that part. And again, that happens to women all the time. You can't call your mummy, who calls the cops, every time you get into a difficult situation. That's real life, and you have to be able to navigate situations like that, and say "hey, hands to yourself, how are your wife and kids? Tell me all about them instead of touching my legs, man." And not dressing in bondage gear and sheer shirts to work will also help you avoid being called Kinky as a nickname.
Does it suck to be pawed at and hit on? Yes. And that's real life. it's not because she's some irresistibly beautiful angel come to earth that drives men out of their minds; this shit happens to attractive and unattractive women just the same, all the time, at jobs. She needs to learn to navigate life, and also not wear inappropriate clothing which can trigger
more of these kinds of interactions.
LOL not all vegans look like her. I'm vegan and I'm fat af.
Sage for ot
No wonder she didnt keep the job at retail - imagine having a business day havoced becauae some whiny teen called mommy during her shift bc of a creep (in FLORIDA of all places)
To me the prime of the video was how OUTRAGED she was that he called her Kinky Kiki
As if that was the equivalent of saying "I wanna fuck you in the ass so hard you'll need a wheelchair". Girl. They sound alike. Chill. Even if she dressed as a nun, it still would be a thing
God forbid this girl listen to "let's have a Kiki" by the Scissor Sisters:
so true. even disregarding the commonly known nutrients, that vegans need to pay close attention to, genetic predisposition plays a role as well.
there are genetic polymorphisms, that are COMMON, that cause a lower conversion of for example beta carotene into its bioavailable (animal) form (https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs7501331
there are quite a few more.
sorry for way OT.
I agree to an extent. I mean I never aged on a vegan diet. But I was high fat which is really hard.
I am no longer vegan as it actually causes more harm to animals and its is unhealthy. Kirsten would look a little nicer if she added some fat to her diet.
Am I the only one here who likes her? I really want her to start making videos again.
I just also checked her twitter… for some reason I am blocked.
>>361083>>And blaming that on a grown man possibly trying to harass her, doesn't excuse it in the least bit.
She still needs to dress professionally, and handle her own problems.
We could go back and forth all day about how women can wear whatever they want and should not have to fend off advances, but that's not the way the world works right now. While those things are not ok, you cannot expect the world to grind to a halt and cater to you when they happen. You have to cope. Kirsten has demonstrated that she cannot problem solve these things on her own: she calls her mother, hides in the back room, or quits rather than deal with (unfortunately very common) workplace issues. That was my point.
Sugar ages you the most out of anything - her being vegan isn't the culprit. Eating slightly less than you're supposed to has been scientifically proven to slow aging but she's obviously eating dramatically less and doubtfully drinking any water at all.
She just probably ignored, like another poster said, eating healthy fats like brazil nuts and coconut oil. Even Taylor talked about that lol, but she has fillers in her face…>>361076
Again, we don't even know what she was wearing so you're argument that her clothes are to blame for any sort of advances people make on her are invalid. For all we know she worked somewhere that has a strict dress code/ uniform
inb4 hi kiki
I don't think Taylor has fillers. I think she got facial fat grafting. Really popular in Korea and is a pretty basic procedure at this point. Especially for baby face, which she has now.
Sugar breaks down collagen, which plays a role in wrinkling and some volume. But i think the low fat is whats getting her. Her face is super thin compared to older photos. It's really obvious in the video. She looks so dif
"People put their hands on me"
"People want to touch me"
"ME">What I hear during her videos
Also she claimed she's been organic raw vegan since age 8??? Anyone remember that?
I mean I'm sure that's a lie…buuuut ya know.
That info is interesting by the way
But Tay is tiny af … Where would she get the fat from ? her barely existing tits ?
They wont typically do fat graft if you barely have the fat reserves for it.
And regardless of what she was wearing, we do know for sure that she behaved like an incapable retard; she told us herself.
Last time on the clothing thing: we know what she considers professional / workplace attire. It is not professional. She wears those harnesses and sheer tops in public - for instance, at that public event for the puppet master event. No one else was dressed that way. Neither a retail store (clothing) nor a music studio would have uniforms. She would be wearing her own clothes, the same ones we've seen her in for the past 4 years, the ones she brought to LA.
And you're getting caught up on one possible part of the argument, but not the main point: that Kiki's issue is not that she's being unfairly victimized, or experiencing an undue amount of harassment. She never learned to interact with others or cope with conflict. She had problems at school? Her parents pulled her out. Got into stupid teen drama fights online? Cathy and Scott stalked and harassed both the kids and their parents. Now fast forward ten years. Kiki gets it on at the store she works at? Runs to the back and tattles to the manager, who tells her to get back to work. Does Kiki figure out a way to manage the interaction with the guy who is flirting (tell him no thanks, maybe later, or laugh, or be like nah, I gotta work, or any of the million responses she could have)? Nope, runs away again, and this time calls her mom, who calls the cops, who fuck up the entire day.
She has never been forced to learn how to deal with conflicts or human interactions. She is blaming online interactions for the other people not respecting her boundaries
- but the problem is that SHE never learned to interact with people, or set her own boundaries in a normal, healthy way, because she hid online or behind her parents.
THAT is my point.
Well I'm no doctor buthttps://www.realself.com/review/south-korea-kr-fat-transfer-20s-skinny-body-unwanted-skinny-faceneed?offset=39https://www.realself.com/review/south-korea-kr-27-years-older-due-flat-skinny-face-needed-liposculpture-younger?offset=88
Seems like it worked for these girls who are skinny. I think everyone has enough for a little? (also not here to trash these girls. if that's what they wanted good for them. just an example of the contours and look it gives that is similar to taylors)
It seems to work well but Kiki can't afford that soooo
And with the boss dude at the studio - if he exists - the same principal applies. Should he have been a creep at work? Nope! Does that shit happen all the time, to literally every woman ever? Yep! Is the way to deal with it to call your mommy to handle it, or quit? Nope!
You have to set your own boundaries if you want to be respected. That's how life works. It would be lovely if everyone just respected each other right off, but there are a lot of unhealthy people in this world. It's not the fault of technology, despite Kiki's deep seated desire for this to be true. It's that she was sheltered and taught to behave like a retard and never deal with her own problems, and her life interactions reflect this.
Now that she's away from home, if she gets a good therapist, she might get some clarity. But as of right now, she's running around in a narc circle, blaming everyone else.
Tbqh I do like her as… entertainment? Idk I don't ever wanna her to stop - keep being online, get on YT again, jump on new bandwagons… it's like a guilty pleasure TV show
About the block thing. You know how her head works, right? She just randomly blocks people.
Do you mean entertainment like, her life makes you feel better about yourself? haha. >>361076
I don't like her, I do feel bad for her. There's a lot of stunted development from her parenting and experience with early internet fame. She doesn't have the family support system that Taylor R seems to have, which is important in developing a healthy self esteem. A 24 year old ANON bashing someone to the extent she did Taylor is not normal or healthy.
Okay, continuing from 12:00
- a professor in school made a sexual comment in front of other people when she was drinking a weirdly shaped Japanese drink ("is that a sex toy in your mouth?")
Again: you attend improv and acting classes. Saying crass and shocking things is what happens there. You have to learn to both dish it out and take it. Should people make inappropriate comments? Nope! Do they, and will they, all your life? Yep! Should you be a recluse again, or expect everyone else to change for you, or should you learn how to cope and set boundaries?
- a guy from class was inappropriate with her, and pulled her onto his lap all the time. She blames the internet and violent video games.
She said she did tell this one not to do it. That's right, Kirsten - that's what you need to do! You set the fucking boundaries, and resolve the issues! That's now you fix this! Dudes have been creepy and grabby and inappropriate since long before video games and the internet, you sorry sped - ever seen the photograph "American woman in Italy"? Where she's being chased and shouted at by literally 20 dudes, and it happened in real time, not staged? In the 1950s?
Nope, she thinks there should be studies made on this subject, because it's all the internet's fault.
Pfft a marketing professor used my friend as an example for product branding - as in, she was a consumer at a sex shop (of all things). It's a typical "professor does joke because class attention". Period.
> she thinks there should be studies made on this subject, because it's all the internet's fault
She blames the Internet on e VERY THING. Da rape, da bullying, da PPL at work. Everyone else is the problem, as always.
It's such a shame she deleted so many videos from her channel ("Muh booty" 5 minutes vlog) and all that
Fat graft is expensive, Kiki would never afford it. Also Taylor's face was far to stiff and bulbous looking in the beginning to be fat graft. ( Plus with her losing weight since HK the fat graft would be pointless. Often only 30% of the fat stays and the rest get re-absorbed, and with weightloss non would stay )
Which honestly a fat graft on Kiki would be pointless probably too. >>361124
I guess thats what happens when you grow up on the internet and forget what reality is like.
I have to disagree with you on a few things. Taylors face was bulbous at first because doctors "overfill" because they expect a loss. And anywhere from 50%-70% stays now because of technique. It's about $2000 in Korea. I know this because I almost had it done to fill a depression scar from a childhood accident. That's how I could recognize Tays face. To fill a face that much with fillers would be thousands of dollars, and yearly for the upkeep (i also looked at that option). I ended up deciding to wait because it isn't the worst thing in my life haha.
Anyway, I think Taylor looks like 17 in her photos despite being like 28 and that's why she can keep getting so much work. Hollywood is pretty harsh on women aging, and I hate it and whatever, but Kiki nearing 25 and just starting an acting career is really far fetched. Especially without any formal training.
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I guess she's going to ignore the release of her deep and important sex trafficking film.
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This lilou has more entertainment value in it's left hoof than kaka has in her entire body.
AAAHHH she looks so good, I'm so glad I'm even gonna ignore the cringey nature lover caption
> I guess she's going to ignore the release of her deep and important sex trafficking film
Well, it's that or having people realize she knew jackshit about the film she was in
is this the fourth hanson brother?>>361273>infantilizing her just because she's a white woman
lol could you not
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Taylor's new Tv show appearance has been released. Can't say I'm blown away by it though.
(Samurai Gourmet Episode 10 around 9:30mins in )
But still hoping for a splerg from Kaka since its still better then anything she'll ever get.
Taylor not only got one more acting role in great Nippon but also does not look absolutely haggard in it
She doesn't even need much more than that to make Kiki want to pull her hair out
are you kidding me? She looks like she's been michael jackson'ed. Looks completely alien to me in that pic. Kiki must be seething tho kek.
Sage for unrelated post
In my opinion, she's very cute and natural compared to Kiki. Kiki looks like the alien tbh.
Physically, ya know?
I also am in no way compelled to drag Taylor for any reason. She seems pretty active, family oriented, nice, healthy, successful with all that stuff she does. Ya know, altogether pretty stable and not a shitty person out to get anyone. She didn't scam and shit on people.
I'm here to drag tf out of Kiki because this pseudo personality she's created was build on treating tons of people like garbage. I'm happy for Taylor and I hope she keeps succeeding and Kiki is left in the dust of failure she created for herself by being a shitty to tons of other people.
don't kill me, just a random little thought. but after seeing this, what are the chances that marimonsturr was spergchan..?>imma be the biggest stan for u
she seems weirdly infatuated with Kiki like nobody else i've seen in this day and age. talks like her. and sounds like someone who might have frequented here.
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Kiki after her trip to Japan
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It's so important
LOL omg guyz no filter!!!
Sparkles and joy ha ha ha
A second after she took that picture those flowers died and fell off cause she was too close
Sage for releasing the hate inside
she looks a lot like Adella here, and it is creeping me out.
…also, I hope people still remember Adella and I don't look stupid.
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Is this an Ostrenga? No one in 2017 says "hoebag" and kaka/sperg-chan and koots use "hoe" constantly.
This photo is from her trip to Japan when she actually wore them all the time
They're probably fallen apart by now
Could be. Hoe/hoebag seems to be a common Ostrenga go to insult for both Kaka/Koots.
Even recently. See >>359310
. Also calling her chicken-legged was something else Kaka said often during spergapalooza (as if not having fucking daikon legs was a sin).
On the other hand it could just be Taylor-derangement-syndrome having PULLtard or a regular old farmer who's annoyed at the derailing.
Any are plausible but tbh I hopes it's Ostrenga salt again.
Damn. Sperg af :s
I used to think she was so pretty even while loathing her personality, but honestly all she has going for her is her eye color and the thousands of dollars of dental work she had done.
She just looks unhealthy to me? Grey and gaunt even though she isn't malnourished, and she looks the same irl, too. Girl needs to get all her B vitamins and more protein or something
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Screenshots just because lol
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PT as fuck lol
Lowkey proof she's still Nippon obsessed>>361502
It's the ash brown hair. But i don't think she looks that bad? It's because we know her sperg-attacks and everything else.
I wonder who's filming though.
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~loreal bc ur worthy it
Loljk loreal ain't cruelty free tho
She legit looks like a witch here and not in a good way.
There's something supremely cringey about an adult woman dancing around like this in public to impress a handful of people online. You guys are right, there are definite shades of PT (but nowhere near as endearing, obviously).
That's weird because here https://www.instagram.com/p/BRcc3GiBKwr/
her hair looked slightly lighter - specially in the front strands>>361521
Yes. All of this.
Is she in Japan now?
Taylor should watch out.
Nah, this is CA: http://www.huntington.org/chinesegarden/
Taylor should watch out anyway though
The person filming had something like a window between them.
Place your bets: who was filming?
Thinking it's papa ostrenga and the video was oddly cropped because he was in a reflection.
If this >>361379
isn't kaka then I'll be damned. She has to be posting right now.
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What the fuck is her IMDB demo reel???? Sage for probably old but jesus
lol really? Bc that sounded so legit?
Now I see why Kiki ends up blocking the most random people - anyyone can be ~one of tjem
Were you following Taylor ?
Maybe she blocks anyone that follows people she doesn't like and you commenting on her profile brought her attention to your profile. Besides if you follow other snowflakes it's likely you're aware of lolcow and PULL and thus forth aware of her sperging/ drama.
It wouldn't be the first time I've heard of a flake doing this, and it is quite a clever tactic and quite a few farmers and pulltards do actually follow their cows online.
Oh God that's so counterproductive for her
Maybe they're aware of her drama, maybe they just really legit like her and taylor/insert similar kawaii cow
As long as they're not sending "hate", just chillax and enjoy the illusion that your popularity is still high
Yeah, she's really fucking up her 'fan base' with this crap too. I remember searching Kiki Kannibal on Twitter a while ago and there were a bunch of tweets from fans and people that had followed her for years wondering why they'd suddenly been blocked, some of them seemed genuinely disappointed. It was pretty much the most common topic after 'lol remember Kiki Kannibal whatever happened to her'.
Even if she started putting out a load of regular, quality content there's no way she could become popular, she's just too paranoid these days. She's totally fucking herself over but it's all the haters' faults, of course.
What is even the point of blocking people who have never made negative comments from a public
account? They can just open it in another browser/log out.
Well, I mean we all saw what she posted in the old Taylor threads ? She clearly has a lot of hatred for Taylor that it really doesn't surprise me she's blocking anyone that follows Tay.
Kiki only wants followers that have a love for her. >>361890
Lol, it could only be a matter of time before she finds your profile. 9.6k followers is still a lot to weave thru, but if you're a newer follower its probably easier for her to creep you. Anyone thats followed her months ago she'll have to manually find. >>361960
My only thought is she might go thru other cows IG's and block people that idolize/like their stuff. Again, this isn't the first time I've heard of a flake doing this.
THOUGH ! I recently heard by a friend that there is apps out now that can help IG'ers track whose taking screen shots of their images. So I guess if you are logged into IG and screenshot Kaka's stuff previously it might of sent out red flags and she and Kota blocked you. ( Of course I dunno if these programs are legit, I don't see why they wouldn't be with so many people stealing others pictures )
Yep, I actually DM'ed her and she never replied. I'm the anon that commented a harmless comment on one of her selfies and she then blocked me. Basically, if you're not a 5head vegan ~hippie goddess~(and I love/follow Taylor, Sharla, Venus, etc.) then she'll block you.
It was only a matter of time anyways, she's such a paranoid cunt.
>>362159>and I love/follow Taylor, Sharla, Venus, etc.
that's probably why then. if you follow any of these people then chances are you're aware of these sites.
Anyway, why are there so many of you being two-faced? kissing her ass, following, liking, DMing, and commenting nice things but then talking shit about her here? like why?
Lots of people think they'll get some super seekrit inside information by befriending a cow/gaining their trust, but that literally only works on ForeverKailyn.
Kiki is way too paranoid. You won't get anything out of commenting/liking her shit so you might as well just sit back and watch the show from a distance.
Maybe not twofaced, but def unconventional to follow someone you don't even like personally/aesthetically. I only follow a flake if I genuinely like their aesthetic/their personality, comment and like occasionally. ( Though I follow more for aesthetic )
( I follow B4by.jpg and Taylor because they're pleasant to look at.. I'd never want Kaka's haggard ass on my feed )
I don't. the thought of giving egotistical narcissist Kiki compliments and likes? yuck. So there's no irony in me calling you two-faced, that's exactly what it is. What was your DM about? i bet it was for beauty advice or something actually ironic like that.
Does kaekae even trust randos on the internet anymore? I was under the impression that the sperglords at YTT ruined that.>>362174
It's not encouraged, we just have some retards from Tumblr or pull bragging about how one of the most paranoid ~public figures~ on the internet blocked them.>>362243
Probably so thick and full of ass kissing that even Kiki could tell they were a troll.
w e w but there is irony in it you dipshit lmfao
it wasn't anything related to that, point being we are all on an anonymous website talking shit so yes that makes you it as well regardless of whatever you tell yourself
Idk I stopped following Kai because ever since she's been single she's pretty much housebound and the only thing she still does is gain more weight and ruin her kid's life. I think she's become a lot more careful over the years but because she doesn't have a single friend, she'll still talk to people.
Anyways, asskissing a cow is not only two-faced, it also does not benefit you in any way. Like what do you even get out of it? She's not going to talk to you, she won't share any super seekrit gossip, she'll barely acknowledge your existence until one day you do something that triggers
her, and she'll block you.
If you really want to influence the cow with your behaviour and make her produce more milk, unfollow and stop liking her shit. She's a narcissist who is dead set on becoming famous, so if you want her to chimp, let her fade into obscurity.
not to mention how stupid it is that every time someone is blocked by her, they come here and report it. Use your brain for a second guys, when you say>I did nothing and Kiki still blocked me! >I messaged her a nice thing and she blocked me!>I follow xyz and she blocked me
you're just showing her that whatever method she has to figure out who's from lolcow and who's not works. you
don't know why she blocked you, but she does
and she reads this site! you're just helping her refine her lolcow user spotting powers and eventually she'll have blocked all of us and we wont be able to get screenshots etc anymore from her private accounts.
If she only blocks very sporadically and can link that event to the subsequent posting on lolcow.
But it seems rather probable that she goes on blocking sprees which a large percentage of non-lolcow users also fall victim to. These will obviously not post about it on lolcow… or -confused by the unwarranted blockage- they might start researching kiki/lilou and immediately end up here.
So Keeks is really shooting herself in the foot, but your interpretation of what goes on in her head is likely still accurate: every poster complaining about being blocked will be a little victory to her, proving how she outsmarted us once again.
lol, she is so transparent.
She's arguably much funnier when she doesn't get what she wants, chimps out about how the same two people have been stalking her for years and keep ruining everything for her, and then reinvents herself and makes another half-assed attempt at becoming famous.
Pls. I really want a standup comedian saga.
>>362397>we wont be able to get screenshots etc anymore from her private accounts
voslilou is the only private account we know of and I don't think anyone here has access.
Agree with everything else you said though.
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why are people doing this?
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which PULL seniorfag was that
Samefag but she also hasn't bothered to make a Lilou Vos website in all this time, not even a basic template site that takes all of an hour to put together.
Obviously it's always someone else's fault when she inevitably fails…
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Was doing some spring shopping and ran across this from UNIF
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Nothing too interesting but I saw Kiki liked this post on Instagram. Made me kek
I saw this as well and thought it was the funniest shit ever, immediately thought of Kiki.>>364258
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>comes to a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence
>you are all bitter bullies because THIS IS FACT NOW
I love PULL.
Yeah, goldwater rule stands. No serious professional psychiatrist or psychologist would ever diagnose without a meeting.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule
Good bullshit in that post. Most professionals would refrain from commenting, even in Anon.
Kiki is very much a public person, who will be treated worse off if someone is dumb enough to believe that.
>>366087>I suspect she is a substance abuser as well
What? Keeks is obsessed with not putting anything remotely 'bad' in her body.
I guess this person would claim that's a cover or something, they seem to twist everything to fit their narrative. Also, if they're such an expert on the Ostrengas, why didn't they mention the self harm?
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>Believe me or not, I'm just an anon >I only have a masters
OMG! That looks like a typical 'sadness lily' post.
>claims expertise in said field >does not post credentials >shitposts quack pysch Dx & advice
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Lilou's Actors Access has been updated with a few things that aren't on her IMDb yet. Looks like more student films.
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Dug up this photo, haven't had time to look at the others much yet.
Honestly though, her brother has autism or some other low-functioning mental retardation/disability and things like that are usually genetic so it would make sense if she really was born with something off, and then it was further exacerbated by abuse.
Not to mention being raped by her boyfriend and shit.
She just needs to get off the internet and into therapy…
Despite not liking Kaka, I'm glad she's doing shit. Even if it sucks.
Maybe she's learning to keep her drama off the internet.
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This Maxine64 just freaked out in their Margaret Palermo thread too. (Sorry for my shitty cropping)>has not personally evaluated either woman>How dare all of you play armchair psychologist! I know for a fact that she suffers from… blah blah>In my expert opinion, lolcow is full of psychopaths!
Anyone with half a brain knows something is neurologically off with Kirsten and she revealed that much by "joking" she was on disability. It doesn't mean there is also a main source of torment (I'm assuming she means Scott, though she calls them both abusers) within the Ostrenga household that fucked up all the women too. There is no direct evidence!
do you remember literally anything about the context, and that it was her not dakota?
i could have sworn she was like Onision heavily and openly against "drugs" of any kind and despised weed.
These photos are legit terrifying,>>361593
this anon is spot on I wouldn't want to see her face at my window at night
Behind Floozy #3 and Nazi Thugs #s 1 through 5
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Looks like she'll be in another one, playing a roommate that moves out and leaves a creepy mask that causes shit to happen. So much for her being such an actress, she only gets small roles.
When you seem how normal and natural other actors pictures look, and then how extra Kaka's looks.
Her picture choice literally looks like a tester shot for wedding hairstyles for kids ( flower girl ).
tbh the picture looks kinda fine although shooped and overexposed af.
but i would immediately look for videos of her to see what she really looks like and then … wtf even is that?
like every fucking second in that video is tremendously unflattering in any sense…. i cant get over it…..
also why does she look so freaking haggard and wrinkly..
ewwwwww to the fucking no
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sorry to recycle old shit, but i was going through spergchan posts again and found this beautiful gem. fuck damn. that is hilarious. they must be so mortified by that little incident lol. not only did "it was found out to be someone from PULL making sock puppets as Cathy" NEVER fucking happen, but when you look at the writing on those tweets it couldn't possibly be anybody but Cathy
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did she actually call jim carrey "jimbo" ?
>if they dont make the 20k after 49 days, they dont get anything. Thats just how Kickstarter works. They are taking a risk. >she wanted you, the dalai lama, as her babysitter without knowing who you were>give us money
nope, PULL forums didn't start until around a year later iirc.
i can't see the 69 tweets for some reason, but can still see who she followed. a bunch of rich people, including random billionaires like Oprah, the founder of ebay, the chairman of google, March Cuban, and even Obama https://twitter.com/cathyostrenga/following
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so what game is this? Since Keekee is so busy she can't respond to her ~Fans~
Yep, PULL wasn't around yet. This "please give money to go to Japan" was CGL era bullshit. Disgrace of a family.
I still can't get over how Cathy and Kaka are so daft. Also how does one suck so hard at pretending to be anon? Their vocab is so limited.
it wasn't to go to Japan. the kickstarter was for Kiki and Dakota to both go to LA and become musicians. The $20k was going to go towards shit like hotel and transport expenses, along with various stuff like "dance lights" and a macbook pro for the sole purpose of DJing, despite the fact that they both already had macs.
even if they got it, nothing was gaurenteed to come out of it. it was literally "let's go to LA and hope we get famous in 5 days by our sheer indigo ultra gifted creative talents".
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Aren't these 2 in their mid 20s? They talk like they have serious mental retardation.
that's what was a bit weird about it. Dakota didn't promote the kickstarter anywhere
, despite being at the very peak of her viral time. while she let her mother make a joke out of herself begging for money on twitter when they all got desperate. >>373513
21 is not mid-20's, anon.
Not this fucking shit again.
No one can agree on this shit so just don't bring it up. It brings mental people out of the woodwork.
probably gonna regret this, but yes. third anon, that's what her passport says. There's never been any verifiable evidence for Kiki, but unless Dakota can get a fake passport that's probably her real age.
>>373876>unless Dakota can get a fake passport
Believable, considering her fame hungry parents and their willingness to sell their daughters since they hit puberty. Tbh all the "pedopile lesbian haters" shit Kiki and Kota spewed seemed oddly fitting for themselves. Kota was obsessed with lesbians, Kiki is Sperg-chan which makes her the biggest hater, and their parents dressing them both like prostitots and teaching them to flail and foam at the mouth for attention is creepy as fuck. That entire family is fucked, buying a fake passport wouldn't be beneath them if copyright claiming shit they don't even own isnt. Plus Scott seems capable enough with IT stuff to avoid being caught doing sneaky online shit.
/tinfoil hat. That family has always creeped me out.
Yeah exactly. I completely noticed how she didn't answer any comments, nor does she ever unless it's to answer some sort of praise or whatever.
I actually came here because I assumed someone would point the game out. I need something new to play >:].
Can't count on her to tell anyone. Also she and dakotas poor use of slang is bizarre and feels forced.
But let's be real. She has over 9,000 followers and consistently only gets 100-300 likes. WHAT fans?
I have a few friends in very minor girl bands or dabble in art and design that have maybe 1,000-2,000 followers and get 300-500 likes on their interesting content. Kiki just isn't interesting, her acting career is unrealistic and boring. Tbh I feel like lolwcow and PULL are the only people that pay any attention to her now.
Yeah, the Ostrengas are mental. But if you are caught attempting to leave/enter a country with a fake passport, not only will you be turned away, you will be banned for life and imprisoned when you are sent home.
Passports these days are extremely sophisticated. They have contactless chips inside and crazy holograms. It just seems like no one who thinks this is possible has ever gone through passport control. In the EU it's technically not even necessary but it's still one of the most arduous processes to go through. They are really fucking thorough.
Most fake passports claim the person is from a completely different (economically poor, third world, no sophisticated ID systems in place) country, and the have all the documentation (birth certificate etc) to back it up. You do not get a fake passport with your real name on it from your real country of birth. It just doesn't fucking happen.
Or her passport is real and they paid to have her DOB changed on her birth certificate. Which is completely legal. You can only do it once and it's a fuckload of paperwork, but it's possible.
My original birth certificate was hand written and entered into a computer at some point with the wrong number day, I was born on the 12th but my DOB was listed as the 17th. Granted, that's much different than changing your birth year
, but given how shitty the system is, I doubt nobody would argue with the actual mother of the girl in question. If Cathy took Dakota to the courthouse and told them her DOB needed to be changed so she could get a passport, she could have told them Dakota was 16 when she was 18. She was short and skinny enough and did her makeup to look younger then, plus considering Cathy was willing to let a 19 year old fuck her tween daughter in her own house and was also willing to set him up to get caught with drugs, it wouldn't be hard to imagine her doing.
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One of the few times I can back Onion
*grasping at those 2006
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LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE A PROFESSIONAL CAN MAKE THO
woah. i made that 21 year old comment days ago, and retards are still at it. like i suspected. every single time this is brought up, it's shut down, because there's zero
evidence that she's older than that. the one and only thing that sparked this in the first place was that police report that, amazingly, also serves as proof that she was 15 in 2010.
like before. even if Dakota got arrested and someone dug up her mugshot, people here would still say she bribed the police to change her DOB.
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And the stupid twat wasn't even the first to do coon striping see pictured 80's band
Weren't hers shooped on or edited anyway? All the fucking things you've tried to do Kaka and people still only remember you for your fake stripe dyed hair.>>375317
I hope this triggers
him into not stopping. Please let Kaka be the new Eugenia to him. I want a war
A lot of people say so. I wonder if she'd go back at it nowadays? Like jus to bleach some stripes into your mousy brown hair>>375331
In a get to know me video she said she "didn't even know what scene was back then" so yeah I guess she was emulating Scott and Cathy's favorté 80s bands
Didn't know everyone neeeded your permission to discuss certain subjects, your highness! Apooogies!
to be tons of public documents about the ostrengas that listed Kiki and Dakota that said they were 3 years apart. NOT the police report about the toaster incident that says Dakota's eyes are brown. But aside from that, just consider how there are no longer any
documents or screencaps about her driving, going to school or anything. The ostrengas intentionally scrubbed every trace of her from the American public records system when she went to Japan, and they would r do that unless they were hiding shit. Her Sawgrass middle school class page? Her tweets about driving? Kiki's Formspring questions she answered about Dakota's age that said they were 3 years and 1 day apart? All of that. Just because the new Kota stans aren't old enough to remember it doesn't mean they didn't exist.
>inb4 she's not lying now because she was lying the entire time before Japan
Ok. But the only way this is gonna ever be put to rest is if one of you runs a background check in Dakota in her state d birth, Illinois. It's about $25.
Fun fact: Illinois is one of the states that doesn't have public birth certificates, unlike Florida. The only way to see someone BC in Illinois is to pay for a background check or a copy of it. Not that it matters, since you can have your BC changed or reissued if you want. >>375339>>375363
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Wouldn't put it past the Ostrenga's to let under aged Dakota drive the car. I think they are also to lazy to actually go thru legal documents and the government just to change Dakota's age … And you can change the day, but not the year. You would need extreme amounts of proof that that its wrong and not just " mom says so". https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-to-change-my-age-under-some-reasonable-circumstances-and-what-are-these-circumstances
I believe Dakota is the age displayed on her social media. Its one thing to scrub old lies like her claims of college or driving off of social media, but to illegally change your birth year ? why ? Police reports aren't really trustable either as they claimed her eyes were brown in one.
There really isn't any viable proof Dakota is older then she claims.
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New vid of her staring at herself. She really is the most boring person.https://www.instagram.com/p/BThMzmohTFK/
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She's going on and on about her favorite topic in the comments.