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why are there STILL people defending xxxtentacion? he's guilty as fuck and his music is shit
Who's looking forward to Weinstein going down in flames?>>208018
Chris Brown all over again
Kardashians are absolute cancer. Why are all the instathots being obsessed with them? They're trashy as fuck, the only thing they have is money
Me. I've heard Weinstein rumors for years and I'm not even in the industry. So I don't believe the people in the industry coming out and saying they had no idea.
It makes me sad because Quentin T. is one of those people who most likely knew and didn't care. But who am I kidding, he's probably the same way.
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Kourtney Kardashian's ex husband is now dating a teenager, Sofia Richie. Barf
Justin Bieber also dated her when she was just 17, i mean he's still young himself, but still… when you're this young can't you take an equaly as young early/mid twenties girl?
When even young guys take somebody already a few years younger, no wonder old dudes think they can have somebody a few decades younger…
There's this video on youtube Men ruined by the Kardashians. You don't need to be a fan of them, but it's seriously not their fault that these grown ass men spend all the money they got from them on drugs etc.!
It always urged me the wrong they that tyga dated kylie while she was still a minor as well…
the hills and kuwtk is classy reality. are you a boy
jersey shore and the uk replicas are awful trash.
i hate that people think the kardashian's ruin these men.
i reckon lamar got rob hooked on the coke and that's the dark times khloe always refers to about when rob was living in her martial home.
i make my boyfriend watch kuwtk and he has much more experience with drugs than i, and he says rob looks like a binger. he's probably done so much gear he's maxed out and fucked his serotonin levels.
chyna and tyga both dirty rat bags. spiteful cunts
Ikr, he always has this cold stare.
He was also a huge POS in Kuwtk. Creepy
Same, but when one roach dies another pops up in its place. Someone else as equally annoying will quickly show up to take up where they left off unfortunately. I feel like everyone is such a fucking exhibitionist these days. I just wanna see someone of substance take center stage for more than three seconds as opposed to the same plastic faced, beanbag chair assed nobodies.>>208939
I kinda feel you, but ehh. I mean, she'll be fine at the end of the day considering that she's a literal millionaire and has a gigantic family.
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>an actor came forward that Kevin Spacey made sexual advances at him when he was just 14 back in 1988
>Kevin Spacey apologizes although he says he doesn't remember
>He ends his statement with coming out as gay
>Now his brother comes forward telling media their father was a nazi/child rapist
What do you think about the Kevin Spacey causa?
Like Weinstein, Kevin Spacey is yet another person who has had multiple rumors and accusations floating around about him for years. Even I knew of them and I'm not directly in the industry. His statement was bizarre and complete bullshit in my opinion. He really tried to deflect by officially coming out as gay, and a lot of news outlets bought it. They ran with that as their story, not that he was being accused of being a fucking pedophile.
I doubt anything can be done about these accusations, but I hope Anthony Rapp can find some kind of closure by coming forward. Also I completely believe more people are going to be coming forward with stories about Spacey in the next week or so.
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>>210477>More will come forward
That already happened
Oh thanks. I hadn't heard of these.
That last one is very interesting because one of the stories I've heard (take this with multiple grains of salt) is that some members of the production team on House of Cards were warned not to get too close to him or be alone with him.
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I'm still waiting for Dan Schneider rumors to hit the fan.
>Nickelodeon will claim, "They never knew!"
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Unpopular opinion: Kaia Gerber is just as overrated as the Kenners and Hadids
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She's def the starving type. It's so sad especially how young she is.
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well with the age of celebrities you have to keep in mind a few things:
very seldomly photgraphs are not retouched. Skin moothening is only one of the things every magazine does.
red carpet action: make up, light, light, light and again retouching.
Being rich let's you usually age slower. Less stress, more resources , more spa days.
Minor plastic surgery: again skin treatments, tightenings, and so on and so on.
i dont think celebrities lie about their age, they rather try to hide it.
think of Ru Paul. I like her, but when she laughs nothing above her nose moves. it's just her mouth opening and her eyes closing. ridiculous if you ask me. but thanks to botox she looks way younger than she is.
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Kendall is pretty, but also really basic for model standards and the lip injections sort of ruined her beauty.
Out of the nepotism bunch, the only one I think deserves her place as a model is Cara. She's actually unusual looking, too bad now she ditched modeling to be a mediocre actress and a subpar singer. Just why…
Probably due to her weight, and I don't mean that as a dig at her. I remember Lagerfield commenting on her weight gain/fluctuations and basically dropping her after booking her for everything (or maybe it was some other designer or brand? I might be fudging details).
Honestly, modeling is an extreme high risk low reward job, and I'm pretty sure she had a couple interviews talking about the toll it had on her mentally. Acting at least gives you some sort of leverage since you're moderately less disposable. Also, she's really going into singing…?
Anyway, I liked Cara, too. Shitty walk, but she was good in editorials and actually had some sort of personality.
She does not do anything for me. Her face is nothing special and in some editorials she looks like a mole. I'm not sure why. And her acting is bad. Cara comes from old money that's what gets me. Girl has everything and still had to have the media machine push her out there constantly. And wasn't she Weinsteined too? I hope she fades away
Kaia looks like she restricts her eating. Hopefully she will stop doing that and grow into her looks. I hope her mom doesn't prostitute her like KJ did with Ken.
1. It's hard to trust personal assistants to go on crack runs for you nowadays
2. It was Halloween time so their regular dealer was probably busy
3. Beiber and Selena are the naggiest cokeheads. Most celebs are since they have no concept of time/money and just get high all day, get bitchy when the supply runs dry
4. Theyre just desperate and stupid to get high lol
Yeah Selena doesn't have Lupus lol. It's just a front for her coke/alcohol addiction. At first it was severe anxiety then her mom's miscarriage then lupus finally stuck. I feel bad her friend was stupid enough to give her kidneys.
Tbh I think her friend was paid for a cover up story. She got tested and was immediately a perfect match right after Selena knew she needed a kidney? They probably bribed someone else for a kidney and paid her for a pity-party cover up story to not make it seem weird Selena got a kidney so fast.
That video is shit though. It doesn't printed jackshit. That they are cokeheads is just gossip.. idk.
She is a cokehead. Have you seen her last boyfriend? Druggie Abel? Her and demi are huge coke addicts. It's been leaked multiple times in the press. Most of your faves are drug addicts. I'm sorry you had to find out this way. That's just the Hollywood game.
Idk how to make you less gullible. But I hope you get woke soon lmao.
Bribed someone else for a kidney? And by that you mean… She got a black market kidney?
You are getting there. Why was she in such a rush to get a kidney? Cuz SHE'S A COKEHEAD WHO RUINED HER KIDNEYS FROM COKE ! Lol
I only hope cole sprouse and the riverdale hang are spared, also dylan since he's starting his acting career again
man those two are unlucky, that's two longterm gf's that have ratted them out to social media when they got relationship issues, rough
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I don't like what's happening with Stranger Things kids. Everyone's like "they have to watch out for pervs!!" because of recent scandals, but do people realize how sexualized are the kids now? By the fans? By photographers? How they have to look and act adult? Shit, just compare them with young Harry Potter cast. Kids vs little adults. I don't know, you could say it's just clothes and some mature photoshoots for magazines, why you trippin, and I get it… But on the other hand I have this internal feeling of uneasiness, wrongness, like I can sense the source of it, the roots, and it's disgusting.
I hope it makes any sense
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i know completely what you mean. she looks like in her early 20s not 13..
she is also treated as such. i hope she has people around her that are interested in keeping her safe.
I only vaguely follow the Kardashians so I don't really get why they're ashamed she's pregnant? Obviously she's young and only just got into that relationship, but her situation is very different to most people's. She's got so much money that her lifestyle wouldn't have to change much if she had a kid. She could even use it to her advantage and seek business opportunities related to pregnancy/babies. I haven't seen anyone really criticising her either, most of the stuff I read is just like "wooow she's pregnant!"
Idk I just don't get it, the family are trashy as fuck anyway, they just get away with it because they've got money
I get that vibe as well. It's like the fans who are screaming about the pedophiles and sexualization in Hollywood are also the types who set young actors and actresses on super high pedestals which puts them under constant stress to overperform and always be perfect.
I don't see how that's any healthier. Then these child stars grow into twisted adolescents and all those fans turn their backs on them.
his ex gf was unreliable af, though. I mean, I bet it wasn't a very pretty breakup but she went from sobbing about losing him/how amazing their chemistry was/how she hopes to get back with him in the future to a total 180 about how manipulative and abusive he was and how she's going to counceling. She says that it's his initiative to break up, then she turns and says that they were gonna And she asked at first to not send asks about it/be respectful while she continuously talked about him and posted about him, and subposting them like "my last post wasn't for your eyes" etc.
She could have just said yeah we broke up, and case closed. But no, she decided not only to stir the pot but she put a goddamn soup blender in the pot. And when people asked like "well what did he do to you?" she got vitriolic like "oh yah okay lure me into a safe space so u can trick me into talking about private information!!!" like… girl that's WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME
She was also apparently quite jealous/uncomfortable with female fans approaching him in the street. I can get how that can sour someone, but you have to be prepared for that, they are gonna have a memorable moment with him and maybe never see him again, you were his gf, you can't exactly compare the two. Let them live.
Look, I ain't saying that she's a liar, but goddamn she doesn't back her case up very well when she acted like that. Case to note: when you break up with your ex and you're not famous the radius of damage you can do is significantly smaller than when you're with a celebrity.
source for most of what I'm talking about: http://sprousefreaks.freeforums.net/thread/1177/guys-bree-cole-broke
you don't need to take this place's opinions as gospel but a lot of tumblr posts no longer exist so most of it is from there
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>>211194>what is google
W magazine, august 2017 issue
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taytay got pudgy
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It’s a pretty unflattering angle.
I always thought her persona was just that. Not sure about gay, but I always thought her "good girl" thing was a joke. According to Katy Perry, she's inferred she's the "Regina George" of the music industry and they don't get along. One of her most recent music videos was Taylor taking a stab at KP and her fans. I can go into deets if anyone wants. I read a lot of gossip rags and keep up on pop girls.
I also think she's conservative. If she is not, she tactfully hides this from her many country, conservative, and semi-ironic alt-right fans. She showed a picture of herself at a voting booth around the election, but absolutely did not say who she was voting for nor did she get behind any candidate openly.
I get more of an asexual vibe from her. And that her "relationships" are all arranged by managers as publicity stunts.
When I was younger, I used to think her "relationships" fell apart because she wouldn't sleep with whoever she was with.
I do think she and/or her managers are very determined to manipulate.
Not that he doesn't deserve the time, but the legal system is so confusing. Someone can rape a person and not even go to prison but then beating, threatening, and evidence tampering gets you 70 years
I didn't read that much into the case tho (saged)
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Not hollywood, anyone hear about Jonghyun's suicide? He was apart of the kpop group Shinee
When i saw the news i kept hoping it was some messed up fake story.
Honestly, his death broke my heart into a million pieces.
Shinee was one of the first groups i stanned almost since the beginning of their career, and jonghyun was one of my favorite idols. He seemed to be truly a wonderful person and his death broke me.
I hope this is a wake up call for Korea, and everyone really, to take mental health more seriously. I mean, fuck, did nobody think to get him some serious help and lay him off the schedules after this interview? Or most of his songs?
> A few years ago, I was crying and whining at my mom and sister while I was really drunk. I asked my mom and my sister.. it wasn’t long after we’d moved. I asked them if they were happy. I got drunk and woke up my entire sleeping family, like some ahjussi. It had been my number one goal in life, you know, to make my mom and sister happy. They both woke up and told me they were happy. But I was so envious at the fact that they were able to reply that they were, indeed, happy. Because it wasn’t like that for me. I told them while sobbing: "I want to be happy too." Then I felt like I’d done my mom and sister wrong. But from then on, I started contemplating about happiness. For about six months, I pondered specifically over what I would need to do in order to become happy. I think that time of transformation has come. I think I need to become happy, now. I must become happy. I am going to be happy.
I bawled my eyes out and haven’t been able to work on my history essay despite the deadline being the day after tomorrow. Got a can of ice cream and chocolate syrup and been comfort eating til just recently. Like in those tacky chick flicks where the single mom has a mid-life crisis and wangsts about dying alone lmao.
SHINee was one of the groups that got me into K-Pop and they’ve always had a special place in my heart even though it’s been ages since I listened to their stuff. Jonghyun always seemed like such a genuinely pure sweetheart and knowing he’s been hurting so much for all this time makes me want to rip my own heart out.
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Key's eyes are covered but you could see the sorrow in his face
Jonghyun's last letter/will was released.
It's a really tough read, especially if you struggle with mental illness, but if anyone wants to read it (reddit link since it's the best translation):https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/7kp15s/jonghyuns_final_note_has_been_released/?st=jbdys9lk&sh=c85f70f0>>218045
I'm not a fan of paparazzi taking pictures of grieving people on funerals, but regardless, his expression broke me, he looks absolutely devastated.
I hope the rest of the members and coworkers/label-mates/friends get psychological help to deal with this tragedy.
i read the note (one of these kpop site already had it translated) and it so fucking sad that it kinda broke me>>218045
fuck man I feel bad for KEY and the other Members of the group. I get wanting to cover the death of a celeb but fuck i though this was going to be a private funeral?
>>217884>"This guy was honestly one of the most genuine people in an industry built on illusions."
I think you mean YOU and SHINee fanss delusions. All you weirdo fans and your "muh precious baby" "my precious angel" "I love you and always will" "I will protect you!" are so obsessed with your perception of who he MIGHT be that you created a world where he could never live up to your expectations.>>218109>"had I tried to reach out, maybe I could have helped"
Again with the delusional fans. You've idolized someone to a point where you think you honestly would've been enough to challenge the direction someone's mental illness was leading them.
If you all loved them so much, you'd stop feeding the industry that kills them from the inside out. >>218065>I hope the rest of the members and coworkers/label-mates/friends get psychological help to deal with this tragedy.
Well, it's SK so they won't. The country that told him his depression was his fault, that shames you from taking medication, in an industry where you trade your soul for being famous.
Seriously, Kpop fans are some of the most obsessively deranged people. I didn't even follow that closely and I KNEW that he was depressed beyond repair. I wasn't surprised at all. He's been crying for help and then covering it up poorly for a long time. Maybe not projecting what sweet baby boo boo angel made me understand him better than most of his fans.
This made me cry :( I use to love Shinee in high school! Owen was my favorite but I still cared for all the members. Suicide is the saddest shit, cause it's all in the spur of the moment.
Depression really is a beast and once it grabs a hold of you, it won't let go :( Ugh! I read his suicide note as well ;-; It was sooooo sad!
Omg thank you, I've only started getting interested in kpop few month ago with the bts craze and it weirded me out almost immediately. Thoses boys literally refer to their fans as their girlfriends? Wtf this is not only cringey it's creepy as hell on BOTH ends. And some of their fans believe 100 % that those beautiful rich and successful mans are still pure virgins angels at the prime age of 22, I even saw a thread once "do you think anyone in bts masturbate?" I've never seen anyone wonder that kind of shit for any other artist. I think it's a case where the girls are almost creepier than their male counterpart.
I dropped this interest really quickly.
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This was from the day of his suicide I believe… One of the many posts that made me cry.
He really thought of everything; I can’t believe someone can be this selfless right into their last moment and beyond.
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Have you ever even heard of idol culture? Kpop fangirls are definitely fucked up, but they're nowhere near as bad as the guys who're into that shit
He's given answers several times over that allude to how deeply unsettled he is, his guilt, and his inability to come to terms with what I feel, is a pretty obvious "I don't want to be a famous idol anymore, but I have to for everyone else's sake" complex
His depression is what made fan girls obsess over protecting him, and they love to rattle on about how hard he is on himself, how hard he works, etc. That they're acting like the YEARS they've spent micro-analyzing every paparazzi photo, live event video, bts recording…every micro-interaction he has with his band and people around him. That they say they are in shock and denial, especially after TOP tried to off himself recently, is probably the largest red flag that all of these girls are obsessed with a projection of their feelings, and not a real person. This is their selfish excuse to garner sympathy. I have friends who have taken off DAYS from WORK to mourn his death because they're so "in shock" that the guy who is always "so hard on himself" and depressed finally had enough.>>218225
I find them equally destructive and creepy. The idol culture doesn't hide that they want to sex these children, or no one else can. Typically Gender dynamics though, Men are sexual, violent, and possessive at the worst and women are master manipulators who can destroy you from afar.
There's also Suho's sasaeng, Rion. She held up a sign while in the audience @ whatever event with something akin to "Rape Me Suho" on it. I had no idea he could get as pissed off as he did but I 100% understand him. So disgusting.
Then there was also that one male SNSD fan who tried to kidnap Taeyeon from the stage during a performance. What the actual fuck.
>>217855>I hope this is a wake up call for Korea, and everyone really, to take mental health more seriously.
It really did make me think twice about what kind of an industry I'm supporting here. Idols are treated like shit by the companies, their fans are fucking nuts and they have to practically live in a prison with no bars. Some fan could kidnap you or hurt you, there are cases of sasaengs straight out slapping or hitting an idol because "that's how they'll remember me forever". Confessing to depression might make your company drop you and contact others not to work with you because your declining mental health affects your performance. All of this combined with probably a very sensitive personality artists often possess must fuck you up completely.
I do hope his death would act as a wake-up call to the whole industry though. He's the first actually huge k-pop musician at the top of his fame to commit suicide so it must cause some sort of a shockwave. Shinee was an iconic group and introduced a lot of international fans to k-pop, so it's not like he was some has-been from years ago. >>218065
This really hits home for anyone who's been hiding their depression for years, including me. Made me teary-eyed.>>218222
This. Holy shit he had been planning this for a long time. And I don't think anyone could've been able to help him.
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First of all, most kpop fans are literal teenagers. What were they supposed to do exactly? Even the older fans who knew things were wrong, we had trusted that his loved ones cared for him and helped him, because we can't. Literally all we can fucking do is buy his shit and go to shows. Sure, the idol industry attracts exactly these kinds of fans who will see what they want to see. They're not the ones who are responsible for his health. The responsibility was on his friends and family and doctor, who all fucked up royally. His dumb fucking friend who said she got his suicide letter weeks before he killed himself and was just "herp derp what should I do" and just told his family, who also knew he was suffering and did jack shit, as well as the friend who said he's been breaking down and falling asleep crying to him on the phone, the doctor who was like "yeah that just who you are so like get over it". Every single fucking cry for help was ignored by the people who were closest to him because they are all incompetent. He needed one person to tell him its ok to stop being "shinee's jonghyun", and no one did. I'm not shocked he killed himself - I'm shocked the people around him didn't give him the help he desperately needed. I AM fucking livid - at the society and culture that allowed this to happen and at the people who could actually help and didn't.
Also, people are allowed to be impacted by the death of a figure that was prominent in their life, shocking or not. Yes, even the delusional fans who buy into the fantasy.
I was hoping for someone to knock some sense into this thread.
I've seen so much creepy shit from kpop fans, many of which are old married women who should know better than the teens.
That's exactly how I feel. I've been struggling with depression for so long, and I recognize that exact mental state from when I'm at my lowest and suicidal, but i'm here - which is why it angers me so much when people say it was inevitable. If it's inevitable we wouldn't have counselors, therapists, psychiatrists, suicide prevention programs or support groups for families of depressed people.
We might not have all the information, but we do have various accounts from friends and family who say they've known of his condition for months. I know this is hardly the politically correct thing to say but I honestly think a lot more could have been done to help him and it was a major oversight on their part. It might be a cultural thing, but the way they said they've handled him is misguided at best. From Jonghyun's suicide note, it's also clear the psychiatrist had failed at his job. I think Jonghyun's support system ultimately let him down.
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>>218312>but his suicide at 27>27
Bit OT but fits the thread- what do you guys think of club 27 conspiracies?
I've been thinking about this ever since I heard his age. So, Jonghyun is a member of 27 Club now… I get sad just thinking about this.
To answer your question, isn't 27 just the milestone where it's like, if you're not as successful as you wished to be or still aren't happy despite your success, it's over for you and there's no hope it will ever get better. You could still be young enough to still not have a broader perspective of the world/your situation or being able to grasp the bigger picture, but you're also old enough that there isn't really any going back.
As they say- an unhappy person striving for success still has a dream, but an unhappy person who has achieved success has nothing to look forward to anymore.
i just like to think that humans passively look for patterns in things and that with billions of people on this earth that chances are good that something will happen to people aged 27.
but im just a grumpy bitch