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Since mods and everyone else has abandoned the previous thread, this will be the new man hating thread
obsession with teens thread>>>/ot/202410
This thread is for:>posting screenshots of disgusting posts/comments/pictures/videos men say or do to hate and shame women >stories or awful encounters with men>why you, yourself hate or avoid men>tips on how to avoid shit/incel-tier men>just venting about how shit women are treated in this society in general
Please no derailing
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Fuck off Incel
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>THEY WON'T FUCK ME
Men would self-admittedly fuck anything with a pulse.
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>If am nice ot them they will want to be my GF
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Real talk, when will there finally be a mass movement of women sectioning themselves off from the male population? At what point do you think enough would be enough for women in terms of putting up with male abuse and violence?
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>>y-you don't like incels because they're virgins!!
>not because they're cancerous pieces of shit
This must be an incel. Notice how hard he deflects personal responsibility onto something else that can't be helped.
Yet another comment section of men celebrating their superiority and constantly shoving this "you're worthless" shit in women's faces. It's not enough for them to run shit and have everyone pat them on the back for it, they have to continually shove women's collective faces in the fucking dirt and shove us down. Celebrating the extinction of women with the potential creation of articial wombs.
Why the fuck do we even try? Why are we here if we're so worthless? Should I just kill myself if I'm such a worthless roastie whore? Fuck these people. Fuck everyone.
Peaked over at Lauren Southern's thread where there's a link to that TDS article about her and Tara. They want to bring back the stocks, the scold's bridle and probably other devices from the 16th century just for women. "Its for women out of line" aka anyone with two x chromosomes outside the home, or really just existing, lbr. Then at the side, it reads the disclaimer>We here at TDS are opposed to violence>Anyone suggesting or promoting violence will be banned.
But since they don't view women as people, of course they only mean violence towards another man.
We can never hate as much as they hate us.>Why the fuck do we even try?
I just don't know. But every time a man gets upset, he always comes back to insults of women being worthless, sluts and whores, and inferior all around. So their kindness is just a lie, why bother then? Why bother when deep down, they only view you as a thing with an expiration date?
I just…don't get it. Men commit the majority of violent crime. Historically, men have been responsible for most of the wars and violence that have occured. But it's women who are the downfall of society? It's women who need to be shamed and subjugated? Why?
They will NEVER acknowledge the portions of societal rot that men are responsible for. Or sometimes they will, but they will twist it in a way where they can blame women for the actions of men.
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I'm sick of these fucking robots using female to refer to women. It's so creepy. It's like they're describing another species.
My brother isn't a robot and even he refers to women as females. It has always irritated me but I don't see the point in trying to correct him because then I'd be ~overreacting and hysterical~ simply for calmly pointing something out.
The worst/funniest is when they refer to women as females but in the same breath they just call men 'men.' Men and females. Human and….something clinical and inhuman that they feel nothing for.
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I love all the mental gymnastics they use to explain that women have
1. not contributed anything to building a civilization
2. runied society with our "degeneracy" (aka not being a tradcon barefoot mommywife)
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A comment on that video, why do women talking about their experiences make men so fucking angry?
Continuing to repeat the "men and females" terms just helps them dehumanizes women entirely. Like this man's comments. >>220231 >A real man..>..move on to the next female
In fact, he openly admits that men cannot emphasize with women. A real man doesn't care if you're wary being in presence of something physically stronger than you that has the potential to cause harm, they'll just call you a crazy female. Seriously, what is the point of relationships with men? Men don't see us as human, they don't care at all, they'd rather hurt us then throw us away when they're done and they'll openly tell you this straight.
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That's what we do on the Krautchan, moving on from female to female and throwing them when done.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
some of my experiences, nothing too drastic but still makes my blood boil
>Men hitting me up with compliments about my looks and then acting offended that I'm not thanking for them on knees.
>Pestering me in public like let me eat my fucking kfc, I'm not here to find a bf
>Professors favouring male students, casually throwing in sexist jokes, making unecessary remarks about pregnant lecturers, all of this in a "elite" field not some garbage course
>acting like oversensitive unstable maniacs both on internet and irl but joking about women being emotional
>acting like they are oppressed by feminism, homosexuals, transexuals, fucking clouds in the sky but "feminazis are triggered"
>lacking empathy. Like even on facebook pages/groups about animal rights there are men raging, if I had a dollar for every "horses are meant to work super hard", "we wore fur for centuries", "it's just a dog lol", "If I see a cat on the road I don't even slow down because what if I hit a tree" etc coming from a dude, I would be fucking rich
>catcalling, especially kids/young teens - I've never been more catcalled in my life than when I was 13-16
Like I can see there are decent guys out there but where they at?? Certainly not around me.
"acting like oversensitive unstable maniacs both on internet and irl but joking about women being emotional "
Exactly this. The hypocrisy is real.
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Example of a man being insanely emotional but telling me (the woman) to stop being emotional.
All I said btw was that sex before marriage isn't a bad thing and people should be able to choose, that was literally it lmao.
>>220287>"you seem like a little girl"
What is it with men's obsession with infantilising women? I've gotten this a good few times over the last few weeks while discussing issues like abortion or sexual assault or even languages. It really pisses me off, it adds nothing to their argument and says a hell of a lot about them, not me.
Luckily, the last time this happened, a bunch of other women ran to my defense and made him look like a fool lmao. The only problem is that men have far too much pride for it to have actually hurt him to see a bunch of women making a mockery out of him, sigh.
Note how he called me a little girl then said he'd have sex with me, fucking creepy.
Men like that always go for personal insults, they never stay on topic it becomes all about YOU and when you call them out on this they say "stop taking it personally!"
I've actually asked men who call women females why they don't just say women, the response I got was "OMGZ TRIGGERED
IT'S JUST ANOTHER WORD AND MEANS THE SAME THING" but why aren't they calling men "males"
That anon's answer was bullshit, call a woman a woman if she's 18+ how fucking hard is that?
>>220287>If YOU will take responsibility for what I'VE done wrong then I will concede my point and say that you and women have nothing to fix and address.
Literally crying and projecting that women MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for everything they've done. If a man has 20+ partners, then its women's fault. If a man has 0 partners, its women's fault (incels). You can't be in a ltr because all women are gold diggers who're after a man's resources (mgtows) and you can't not be serious or else you're a worthless roastie. You can give everything to a man and they'll still hate you and you can give nothing, still the same reaction.
I wish they'd buy dolls and leave us alone but they can't do that either. They HAVE to make it seem like we're being replaced.>>220293
Just another way to make women sound like another species, subspecies. Theres a man and a female. Fucking gross.
Yup, women's sexuality is policed heavily to protect men's feelings, that's literally the society we live in…when we're finally starting to break free of it and the western world is like "hey maybe women do have a sexuality too and should be able to choose what they do with their bodies" men cry about it and protest it.
I wish they'd leave us alone too, honestly, I'd be happy if these weird men fucked off with their sex dolls and just let us be. I'm sick of random men trying to police how I have sex.
Ohhh I get it now. Literally everything that isn't women is good.
How can we blame women for the current lack of war? Let me know.
See anon that's the problem, men online are nitpicky and disgusting, try joining groups and circles irl to make friends, that's what I did, church groups tend to be really friendly and the guys there tend to be nice and wait til marriage and all, if you're okay with that, also volunteering can help you make new friends, like hospital volunteering, or library volunteering, just try to search for places to volunteer, I volunteer for a child abuse charity event and it helped me make loads of great friends who want to do friend things even when I was a neet
I get where you're coming from though, nothing wrong with not being white either or a virgin, I'm personally one myself
how old are you anon and what do you think makes you below average?
I'm 21, going to be 22 this year sadly. I have actually met people from online in person years back which didn't reinforce my optimism. I get where you're coming from and that's great advice, I do like to volunteer and hope to find another opportunity during the summer.
As for groups and circles irl, I actually have a lot of trouble with that since I am very, very bad at social ques, body language, understanding jokes on time, not making things extremely awkward, and my facial expressions and body language often force people to misunderstand me even though I don't know I'm doing them. Don't get me wrong I have been putting myself out there but the stimuli overload hits me like a brick and one of the parties I was excited for I had an anxiety attack for a couple of hours and people were wondering what was wrong with me in a concerned way of course.
I don't have much of a body shape, flat chested, but most of the ugliness comes from my face, it always looks chubby even though I'm 19 BMI, lips are too fat, one eye of mine looks drowsy and I've got a poor head shape, the back of my head is flat and it bothers me so much. Also my head is crooked and if I were to take a picture of one side and compare it to the other it does not look the same. I exercise regularly, I like to but it's also a part of my job. I can't really venture out too much either because I am in the military and also sort of in the middle of nowhere.
This. Men online are just men after the mask drops. >>220351
Anon, where do you find places to volunteer? Are there any websites or anything with listings or do you just find the opportunities from church?
Glute exercises and corsetting,for flat chests, try going on the pill, or different massages and push up bras, etc, for face try facial yoga and contouring, also different haircuts and hairstyles can make your head look completely different, I knew girls who were complete basketball heads and made their face look slimmer with framing their face with their hair, different styles of makeup can help with your eyes, or try to emphasize your lips (lots of people love big lips) to take attention off your eyes. Also facial asymmtery can be a good thing, like one side could be sexy and one side could be cute and sweet, tease your hair in the back and use volumizing products to fix the back of your head
1. Don't reply to robots.
2. We're not all greasy fat girls who are just bitter incels, some of us are victims of abuse from men and just want a place to vent. Especially with the recent increase of men sperging every time women talk about their experiences.
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it's always interesting to me how so many girls are willing to go out their way, adapt to hobbies, often spend thousands and thousands to seem "not like other girls", sometimes even shitting on OTHER women, just to make men "happy" and want to be with them, when the "other girls" tend to be completely harmless
meanwhile most men are completely okay with shitting over women, not putting any effort into how they look, praising other men who bash women, etc etc, and mocking and shitting on the men who do dare to say something like "hey I think telling women you will kill them if they don't fuck you is bad"
kek, I knew a guy who claimed to be "lonely and just wanted to make women happy"
bastard cheated on me, said touching other womens tits wasn't cheating, got mad and played victim when I left his ass, then tried to expose my nudes and bragged about how "at least my friends don't have my nudes like my friends have yours", I told his mom and my friends what he did and sent screenshots, and then he cried and played victim about how it was unequal to tell so many people kek
Yup, I use to try the "not like other girls" bullshit as I fell for the meme that women are all mean/catty and guys are less drama. I discovered the opposite, a lot of men are fucking vicious - especially if you don't give them what they want at all times. If you don't date them you're a fucking bitch and they rage, if they're not attracted to you they pretty much want nothing to do with you. They also try force their interests on you but never take the time to try anything you like.
Of course, I've encountered mean women too, but it's on a much lesser scale. I don't feel insulted by being told I'm like "other girls" now as other girls aren't bad the majority of the time.
I feel weird because I've never experienced the "women are all catty bitches who hate eachother" thing except for one girl who targeted me in eighth grade. It's not that I don't believe other women who say that they've experienced that and find it hard to make female friends because of that, but it's just so far from what I've experienced that it's a bit hard to reconcile. I feel the same as you - I've found men to be very cruel and vindictive. Men were the ones who mocked my appearence and told me to kill myself because I was ugly in school. Men are the ones who literally hate any woman who doesn't meet their standards and go out of their way to make them feel like shit about themselves. Men are the ones who love to laugh at any woman's misfortune and revel in their little revenge fantasies about women being miserable and killing themselves because feminism, or whatever.
I've always had trouble making friends in general because I'm very shy and it's hard for me to open up, but the friendships I've had with other women have been so valuable to me. Sometimes I feel like they seriously keep me sane and prevent me from getting too depressed about how men see women/general misogyny. Like I know some awesome fucking women, why would I get upset about what men have to say about women? I still do because I'm a dumbass, but seriously. Having a strong group of female friends, or even just one, really helps.
Amanda todd gets talked into committing suicide by men, she comes the butt of all the "Drink bleach" jokes, people tell her she had it coming and she was weak, dumb, a whore, she deserved it, etc
Conrad gets talked into committing suicide by his gf, the world raves with sympathy, girlfriend gets charged with manslaughter, people use it as an excuse to yell female privilege and male oppression and then men will post dumb memes like "no one hates women more than women hate women" yet 90% of women will tell you most of the shit they went through and the shit they've been told are all from men
The Amanda Todd situation was disgusting, she was like 14 iirc and groomed by an older man online, who leaked her nudes to her school and blackmailed her for years. Yet people say she had it coming, should've known better etc. She was a fucking child, why are literal children who happen to be girls suppose to have more common sense than grown adult men?
The Conrad situation was sad too, but it proves sexism when they're unable to feel sympathy for Amanda but are for Conrad.
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military men are the best
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>>220383>meanwhile most men are completely okay with shitting over women, not putting any effort into how they look, praising other men who bash women, etc etc, and mocking and shitting on the men who do dare to say something like "hey I think telling women you will kill them if they don't fuck you is bad"
And there are guys who think the same thing about women. Meanwhile you had a tweet from a HuffPost editor which said "kill all men" get over 500 likes before it was deleted and despite being reported nothing was done about it
>>220426>In men's case, getting shat on it's usually not getting enough female attention.
or getting divorced and having half the stuff taken away along with the kids
or getting raped as a youth by a female teacher
>>220429>divorce rape meme
lol, should've known you were a robot. Females only make up 1% of rapists, so it's highly
improbable that even a fraction of the men reee-ing are rape victims.
no the first one was self-deleted then the account was put in protected mode presumably by the owner. The original tweet was reported but it was deleted but that apparently was the response from twitter. The second one was done as a test and they got that response to their new twitter account.
The other explanation could be that the tweet was deleted and Twitter didn't see it? Is that possible?
how do you know it was self-deleted though? >The original tweet was reported but it was deleted but that apparently was the response from twitter.
again, both reported, both deleted, I don't see the problem
but, assuming you're correct, It is most likely because when women say something such as "kill all men" they aren't very serious about it, and it most likely doesn't translate into real life, where as when men say "kill all women" what comes into mind are men like elliot rodgers, who did take upon their actions, where as I never seen a woman shoot a bunch of men because she is misandrist
>The other explanation could be that the tweet was deleted and Twitter didn't see it? Is that possible?
>>220442>again, both reported, both deleted, I don't see the problem
It's about the response from Twitter. The first one was self-deleted not by Twitter who apparently said they saw nothing wrong in that tweet.
>but, assuming you're correct, It is most likely because when women say something such as "kill all men" they aren't very serious about it, and it most likely doesn't translate into real life, where as when men say "kill all women" what comes into mind are men like elliot rodgers, who did take upon their actions, where as I never seen a woman shoot a bunch of men because she is misandrist
So men are killers and women are not? I don't recall Rodgers posting on twitter he was going to kill all women. The point is about the consistency of applying the rules in regards to hate speech. People have been fired for less offensive tweet speech.
Still a minority, still highly improbable that even a fraction of the misogynists are rape victims. Men are still the ones committing the vast majority of them, yet women don't bitch even half as much.https://wearawhitefeather.wordpress.com/survivors/rape-culture-statistics/
Between 60% and 99% of rapes and sexual assault are perpetrated by men onto women, children, other men>>220434
No one's saying there aren't, I'm just saying, women take a lot of shit from men and men hardly take any from women, so it's not really comparable.
Just how many times will people come in to post this same fucking reply? Nobody cares. This is a man-hating thread, not a "b-but both genders have flaws! #notallmen" thread. >>220387
The thing about the "another woman is a woman's worst enemy" stuff is ridiculous. When girls bully each other in high school it's because women are inherently evil and cultivate catty hatred for each other due to absolute biological reasons. But when males target other males it's because of ~toxic masculinity~ pushed by the ~society~ which causes men to hurt each other. If I was more of a tinfoil hat I'd be convinced that the narrative is forced on girls just to avoid having them form sister networks to threaten the male society.
Bullying takes different forms. In school boys resort to physical violence against each other whereas girls tend more to go for emotional bullying though some still will resort to violence.
With online culture it's usually the powerless men who were often bullied in school that can become cyber bullies due to their net skills and anonymity.
>>220469>Outright admits it's because the society teaches girls to think of females as a lesser group of people and because the work-life is dominated by men they need to sink to their level in order to advance but dismisses it entirely for the rest of the article>The "only women gossip" meme>Uses the reaction to that retarded Samantha Brick article as a valid source
Having worked in a male-dominated field for years, they are just as petty and passive-aggressive gossiping cunts when they're bullying someone.
It's not an opinion though. Women have it objectively worse than men overall, that's a fact.>>220464
Denying facts and going on about how men dindu nuffin because there are bad people on both sides!! isn't debating
True, not to mention men, when they bully women they make sure the woman feels like shit, they'll shit on the woman mercilessly and then go on about how upset she is, they WANT women to feel bad. Where as lolcow, it's just nitpicky here over milky shit, men will think a girl not meeting their standards is the worse thing a woman can do and will shit on her to hell and back and make sure she knows
Also its not just a female thing either, ever even seen what men do to other men? Most of them will shit on other men to hell and back then men whine about being oppressed because "muh muscles" or "muh dick" meanwhile men shit on other men a million times more than women shit on women, men still do more bullying to women and hurt women so much more than women do, yet they want to scream "hur dur its actually women who bully other women"
Do you guys think there is any possible way for us to make men see us as human? I know this isn't the answer, because ultimately I shouldn't have to do this in order to get a modicum of respect, but I pretty much try to remove myself from sex/sex appeal as far as possible. I don't show cleavage, wear tight fitting clothing or red lips, I never flirt with men or pretty much give any indication that I'm a ~sexual being~. (I'm not very sexy to begin with so this is pretty easy for me.) But you would think this would give men an excuse to not treat you like a sex object if you go out of your way make sure there is no way you could be perceived as one, right? But I almost think it's even worse. Because then they get all assblasted and take it out on you because you don't make their dick feel good and that's all they think women are here for. Men always say shit like "I respect women who respect themselves" and by that they pretty much mean a woman who isn't their definition of a "slut" or someone in control of their sexuality. But even when you hide your sexuality completely, they still don't respect you or treat you as human.
I hate that I even care about this, but I'm tired of being treated as lesser than, or looked at as some worthless being who is barely human by men. What are we supposed to do? I know the correct answer is probably just stop giving a fuck. But men are half the population and they influence every sphere of life and work, so they influence how the world views women. If you wear makeup, attractive clothes, and let yourself be beautiful, men will either hate you for this or treat you like a literal toy that they can do whatever they want with. If you don't focus so much on your appearance and instead try to avoid giving men any excuse to call you a whore or treat you like an object, they just view you as inferior but in a different way. Because men think our only worth is our looks regardless, and now you've removed that.
I just really hate it. Walking around knowing half of the population hates you and sees no use for you. Worrying that nobody at work takes you seriously because ~women are just caretakers with low IQ~ or whatever the fuck. Sorry for the rant, I'm just really sick of it.
both comments should have been treated the same and deleted by Twitter and the accounts limited for a time. By ignoring one and coming down hard on the other just fuels MAGA ire.
I wish she (the Huffpost editor) hadn't posted it at all - or at least put a more humorous twist on it. These are the kinds of thing the altreich seizes on to make their distraction arguments.
…however, it seems it won't matter as I just saw that Bannon and Trump just had a falling out. Ha!
What I really hate is women have to be very careful not to offend men when talking about them, if not all sorts of words and accusations get slung their way, but the same thing doesn't seem to apply to men. They say whatever the fuck they want, they can also do it and be thought of as impartial, but women are biased and irrational.
On the same note I've been recently listening to Bill Burr's podcast, and I just thought there's /no way/ there would ever be a female equivalent of him. I can find him entertaining, but the way he goes in on women can be tedious. Can you IMAGINE the amount of abuse a female Bill would suffer. I mean just look at the abuse his fandom gives his wife, and compared to him she's very mild. And, if she does put in her 2 cents, PROTIP: avoid the comments.
I just find it really frustrating. It feels like sometimes I don't have a voice, or that I can't voice it.
His own fandom attacks his wife and he's perfectly fine with it? Doesn't even mention it on the podcast or defend her a little bit?
Men don't even give a fuck about their own wives lmao
Thanks, first time I've heard about that. I can only imagine the furore around the girlfriend. Did she really bully him into it, or just (gently) encourage? I need to look into it more.
The double standard reminds me of that reddit thread AMA with the female and male "Honeypots". She got nothing but hate, for being a greedy whore that entraps men, but with the male HP they were applauding him for catching all those deceiving whores. Either way women get the blame, and it's not looked at equally.
emily mccombs is such a trashfire. if it was a couple of years ago, she'd be good fodder for a /snow thread.
sage for non-contrib
Just passing by but positively surprised;
I'm assuming that most of the girls hanging out here are graduate school regulars or have jobs in sales/retail. I wouldn't be surprised if the median score on the attractiv-o-meter was 7, assuming you gals don't do too much drugs. Judging by the general credulity towards leizure society I'd say you all live in the USA but let's hope not.
First off you are all very right to despise MGTOW and miso-like prescriptions about what to do with your bodies.
But patience. Thoughts evolve slowly, and with the degrading quality of western lifestyles, it is likely that social consensus will devolve or regress. Uneducated people often have archaic goals like owning 6 TV's or having children (for the wrong reasons) which often contribute nothing except passing on unrealistic views on the opposite sex. Also, men are driven by ego and become crazy when rejected (some don't even realize that some girls genuinely don't know shit about flirting), but that's a banality that everybody knows, just like women tend to take terrible decisions when finding a mate.
Anyway, here's what I came here to say; act as you think.
If you are often part of love triangles, if you get drunk with male strangers, if you use sex as a tool, if you treat males like clients on a waiting list or a simple subscriber to your blog, you are not part of the solution, you are just like r9k. You gals seem educated enough to know better, show the example and spread the word. >>220512
has underlined a nice way to circumvent male thinking; by dressing simply you mess men's brain in a positive manner. Start from there. Good luck and whoop some ass while you're at it.
I am the one who posted >>220512
and my point was that it DOESN'T mess with men in a 'positive manner', unfortunately. They still treat me like less than human, worthless and inferior, but it's just a different way than they would if I dressed in the way they liked. It doesn't circumvent male thinking at all, it just makes them hate you in a different way. We all know that dressing simply doesn't make them appreciate your ideas or your mind, they simply can't do that it seems. I wasn't saying that what I was doing has had a positive result for me, I was mostly looking for advice because even what I've tried HASN'T worked. I still deal with misogynist ass men all the time. :/
At all. Unfortunately I don't think there's anything we can do. Men just hate women and it can't be fixed. "It's a feature, not a bug."
I feel the same as you, I changed my entire look to avoid sexual harassment and be treated with more respect. It didn't work, still got sexually harassed and wasn't treated with any more respect, men still treated me like I'm beneath them despite being educated and in the same line of work as them. I thought, what's the point? I was stuck with a look I didn't like and still being treated just as shitty. I like fashion and pretty clothes, I like make-up and styling my hair it makes me feel more confident, I enjoy doing my make-up and I enjoy how I look in it. Men will treat me shit whether I wear it or not so I'm putting myself first instead of trying to please men. >>220543
Also "getting drunk with male strangers" what are you implying women deserve if they do that? You could be having cocktails with your female friends and men will likely be in the bar, are the opposite genders meant to forever avoid being around each other? Honestly, saying, women, deserve to be treated like shit for things like drinking alcohol or having sex doesn't help.
>>220530>Did she really bully him into it, or just (gently) encourage?
well she wasn't just straight up like "why don't you kill yourself conrad" but she wasn't hannah level either
basically he said he was going to kill himself, didn't do it, michelle or whatever her name was said stuff like "you said you would so why don't you"
>The double standard reminds me of that reddit thread AMA with the female and male "Honeypots". She got nothing but hate, for being a greedy whore that entraps men, but with the male HP they were applauding him for catching all those deceiving whores. Either way women get the blame, and it's not looked at equally.
exactly, think of feminism vs MGTOW, people often use feminist as an insult nowadays and use it to shut women down if they dare speak up about not being an assholes
"You think women she be able to exist without getting treated as subhuman if they don't have perfect tits and ass? KEEP CRYING FEMINIST"
"You think a woman should be able to talk about her rape experiences without getting called a whore, slut, saying she deserved it or lied in the commnents? SHUT UP FEMINIST"
and of course everyone cheers them on, where as MGTOW is often encouraged on everyone and seen as good.
"You treat your wife like shit and then play victim when she reacts badly to getting treated like shit? JOIN MGTOW MAN AND DUMP HER AT THE SIDE OF THE ROAD SHE WAS PROBABLY A CHEATING GOLD DIGGER EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HER FUCK THEM GET SUPERIOR 18 YR OLD VIRGIN PUSSY SOMEHOW EVEN THOUGH YOURE AN OLDFART BUT WE HE WOMEN SO LETS GO BUY THAI HOES IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE WORLDS HIGHEST RATE OF CHEATING WE HATE CHEATERS THOUGH"
men are fucking insane
>>220543>If you are often part of love triangles, if you get drunk with male strangers, if you use sex as a tool, if you treat males like clients on a waiting list or a simple subscriber to your blog, you are not part of the solution
thats the thing, there will always be love triangles regardless of gender, there will always be people who get drunk with strangers, regardless of gender, there will be people who do use sex as a tool regardless of gender, and people who treat the opposite gender as a client on a waiting list, it just happens, there's nothing you can do about it, it's not a woman only thing either, a lot of men do do the things you mentioned, sometimes even more than women do these things, but the second you call them out on it you're a bleeding heart crazy feminazi, we're simply saying we want to be treated better, is that too much to ask?
>just like women tend to take terrible decisions when finding a mate.
some do, some don't
again, men do this as well, a friend of mine actually was seeing a guy, then the guy completely dumped her off for a fat druggie with no ass, fat druggies ended up leaving said guy for drugs several times, then told the dude she got arrested just to post a pic with her new bf on ig a few hours later, meanwhile the girl the guy left for fat druggie would treat him like a prince, never stfu about him, spent over 600$ buying him gifts, tickets, dates, etc, yet the same girl isn't running around screaming how all men are bad and only want fat druggie hoes, giving up on men, saying all men are evil, etc, it really makes you think, doesn't it?
>I'm assuming that most of the girls hanging out here are graduate school regulars or have jobs in sales/retail. I wouldn't be surprised if the median score on the attractiv-o-meter was 7,
see business and education thread and different body threads and stuff, very diverse group of people here, some women here are 30 living with their parents with no job, some are college graduate businesswomen, not that it matters but shouldn't really capitalize all of us to be the same way
And, we're supposed to be the emotional ones. Anger is still an emotion, Gents.
Male Fragility, it's not just a Tumblr meem.
I remember when people were talking shit about Amanda Todd. Grown ass adults were linking her nudes, calling her a slut, making comments about how disgusting her breasts were, some were calling her hot despite that, you get the idea. I was fucking stunned by how cruelly people were mocking her, partly because of how young she was. She was taken advantage of by a much older man and people thought it was funny to pass around her child porn and make comments about her body.
…y'know I was around her age when that happened too.>>220516>>220521
I've been a fan of Bill's stand-up for almost a decade. He is pretty funny despite being an ass, but not too long ago I had the same thought about his wife when I was watching a podcast and scrolled down to see the comments. I remember thinking >they're saying this about the woman he supposedly loves. Hasn't he ever cared enough to tell his fans to cut this shit out?
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>>220573>making comments about how disgusting her breasts were
this always bothered me about men, they beg to see womens bodies, but not because they like it, but so they can judge and nitpick pick it and tear her apart, even when the woman herself didn't want them to see and was forced into it pretty much
men enjoy judging womens bodies and finding whats wrong with them rather than actually enjoying the fucking body, even if the woman is "healthy, not fat and not flat" like men like to scream how easy it is to be a woman because those are apparently the only standards for women
it sometimes amazes me the lengths men will go through just so they can judge and pull apart at womens bodies, so far to the point a lot of us are use to men on social media asking for tit pics or ass pics just so they can rate them, forums where about 80% of the discussion is about how if ___ woman is fuckable, hot, not, whats unattractive about her, etc, it's almost like a damn hobby for these people with the insane amount of time and effort they put in just to nitpick then call us hypocrites because of /snow/ and /pt/ yet fail to realize people become cows because of their behavior, not to mention there's male cows too
given, we do nitpick, but again, people become cows because of their behavior, men will see a rando girl at fucking taco bell, take a creepshot of her, go home, post it on the internet to humiliate her because her ass wasn't big enough for his liking, meanwhile hideous men get shirtless all the time and no one says shit
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>shames black women for wearing makeup and plastic surgery
>says they should look like a mixed woman with plastic surgery and makeup
I will never understand men's delusional think when it comes to women's looks
They created this fantasy world in their head where they genuinely believe a woman can look like a perfect 10/10 without putting in any of the work and maintenance to get there.
Point out how she is wearing a full-face of makeup fake eyelashes et al, has on fake nails, and (probably) had to get some plastic surgery to get that body type, and they'll most likely get mad at you for shattering their fantasy.
Feel sorry for black women, especially dark-skinned, Afro-centric women. Not only do they get bashed by white men (and others) but their own men, too. :(
Yet, you always see black women supporting black men.
Yehh, I've thought this too before. That black women (generally) tend to be very supportive of their men and stand by them for all they go through in society. Then I see black men frequently selling their women out in favor of a different standard of beauty.
Seems pretty fucked up from what I've observed, but I don't actually know if any black women would feel the same way or agree with that, so I won't take that thought any further.
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>>220600>stop wearing fake eye lashes! Be natural!
Do they think we just come out of the womb with false lashes, fake nails and 30 lbs of makeup?they will claim all women are fake sluts then go worship women doing the same stuff and clam it's natural while calling actual natural women ugly.
That's becuase men are fucking dumb and don't know what 100% natural actually looks like. They're so easily tricked by the "no-makeup" makeup look that it's not even funny, yet they really think they can tell the difference. That's why they ruthlessly attack and ridicule women who REALLY aren't wearing makeup, and praise women wearing light, well applied makeup as being natural and not fake. Seriously, I've always done the no makeup-makeup look because I have zero talent when it comes to makeup and can't do much else, and I've had men tell me how I look nice without makeup. When I'm WEARING makeup. They have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to this.
It's said before in these threads, but you really can't win with men. There's really no point in trying. If you love makeup, you should just wear it and don't worry about how they feel about it. If you don't wear makeup, don't force yourself to wear it just because you feel like you need it. Men are going to mercilessly judge us and tear apart our looks regardless, we might as well be comfortable. It took me a long time to get to this point, but I really think it's the only way to live where you're not constantly trying to appeal to contradictory standards that are set up in a way where you absolutely can't meet them regardless of what you do. They don't actually want 100% natural women, as you can see how they react when they see a woman's bare face, they just want you to appear to be naturally flawless without actually taking steps to look that way. You had to have been born naturally flawless though, because if you get any kind of cosmetic procedure, hair extensions, or wear makeup, you're a deceitful fake whore. But if you don't try, you're a lazy slob.
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>women don't judge and nit pick about men
Ughh, this thing makes me sad, like, I feel pity for short guys (my dad is one lol, but he's never been a good father anyways and somehow managed to have several girlfriends ,how does he do that, short men are actual dickheads???), but what can be done? Most of them really do seem unattractive only because of their height and look funny with their short legs and big heads.
Maybe it's human evolution that makes them unappealing to straight women, idk.
I'm pretty sure most men are not over six foot, right? And somehow most men manage to have sex, have a girlfriend, exc. The problem is that now men view fucking 5'9 as short when it isn't. It's average. And then they get a complex about it and yes, they end up acting like assholes with a chip on their shoulder.
I mean men in Hollywood are usually considered the most attractive men on the planet and they're all short as fuck. Short men aren't as unappealing as they think they are, they just have a victim complex because they feel inferior to bigger men.
I don't get it either, nothing is stopping them from grooming themselves more in fact I think it'd do a lot of men good. Covering their acne would probably help their confidence and stop them whining as much. I've noticed women tend to be very accepting of men wearing make-up, it's other men who have an issue with it.
I said this in a previous thread too, but I think part of it could also be they fucking hate women doing something for themselves. Men scream about hating unnatural make-up, hair, tattoos etc so I highly doubt women who get those things are doing it to attract men. They can't stand a woman not trying to live up to their standards.
>>220612>honestly I don't think any race of men are loyal to their women.
Ah, yeah I agree with that. White men do the same with the whole shitting on Western women and chasing after muh submissive Asian waifus. I also see men of my ethnicity idolizing white women sometimes. I just get especially sad when I see black men shitting on black women I guess because I think black women have generally had to sacrifice a lot to defend their men at times, especially within the context of American history. >>220627>males doesnt want just a few gfs, they want full package just like when anons are crying others writing she deserves better and she should dumb him. it's same mentality
Lmao yeah because wanting a boyfriend who won't treat you like shit is totally the same as wanting the "full package."
Are you okay?
you are so mentally fucked up it's impossible to deal with you. yes a male making you sad and not satisfying your fantasies quickly became a shit bf. of course I'm the one keep writing you deserve better in a slightest problem right?
go look at relationship threads and cure your delusion, some of us actually have to deal with hardships of life unlike ivory tower princesses gosh girls like you gives us a bad name for no reason.
>>220638>yes a male making you sad and not satisfying your fantasies quickly became a shit bf
I've only seen anons using the "dump him" meme when he's done some genuinely sus shit, did something to violate their trust, or completely fucked up. Again what's wrong with wanting to be treated with basic human decency in a relationship?>you are so mentally fucked up it's impossible to deal with you.
Kek. The irony.
>>220640>did something to violate their trust,
translation he made her sad boohoo
>Again what's wrong with wanting to be treated with basic human decency in a relationship?
nothing it's just you hypocrite princesses never want that, in most of the threads you cannot even express your feelings and somehow all can be translated as you all know what you want and that's decency? fuck you and fuck your family that spoiled you.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
>>220642>translation he made her sad boohoo
Are you fucking 5 years old? Do you know how a relationship is ideally supposed to work? What's the point of being with someone who makes you feel like shit?
>you cannot even express your feelings and somehow all can be translated as you all know what you want>hurr durr what do women waaaaant??
Male detected. Fuck off.
>>220645>I mean show me a man who doesn't hate women.
You sound like the reverse of a MGTOW which is why I thought POE. Also I'm just naturally skeptical of anyone on the internet.
But to answer your request: Shah Jahan
I doubt those were robots or incels or whatever since most of them pine for girlfriends
it was some kind of troll game of reversal to get rise out of people then show something like the short guy shaming list.
Also don't take what people say online without a grain of salt or several buckets in this case.
I mean I'm not the reverse of MGTOW. I don't want men to literally die or anything. I just don't believe that they don't hate women. They prove it everyday. I'm skeptical of ones who pretend not to.
But I will read up on Shah Jahan, thank you.
the difference is a lot of women have so many reasons to be the reverse mgtow, meanwhile men will join mgtow run around and stretching everything they see to fit their narrative "YOU HAD YOUR NUDES EXPOSED? YOU ONLY TOOK THEM TO SUE APPLE YOU GOLD DIGGER!!" "DON'T GO INTO WOMENS SHELTER IF YOURE A STRONG WOMEN WHO IS IN AN ABUSIVE SITUATION !""DONT GET A JOB EITHER WOMEN WHO GET JOBS ARE GOLD DIGGERS!!" and so fourth, all the while the most these men have ever been through are break ups
yet the second a woman talks about men being assholes, men begging to see womens bodies just so they can trash it, men begging for womens nudes just to expose ot, men being free loaders on women, the extreme standards they will have, abuse, rape, being hurt by men, people like to scream "SUCK IT UP YOU DUMB FEMINAZI"
most of us have good reasons to stay away from men, mgtow on the other hand has to stretch to come up with reasons
>>220667>most of us have good reasons to stay away from men, mgtow on the other hand has to stretch to come up with reasons
It's all perspective. Bouncing back and forth I see nearly the same arguments just flipped on the gender with both sides. There are women abused by psychotic boyfriends. There are men who commit suicide over not being able to see their kids again.
Neither side wants to see the point of view of the other side and thinks the other side hates them.
It's kind of funny really in a sad sort of way. Humans must be a social experiment for sociopathic aliens.
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yes because women wanting to stay away from men after being abused by several men vs men wanting to stay away from women because they got broken up with is all just a perspective
>I see nearly the same arguments just flipped on the gender with both sides
men have to stretch to find reasons to hate, women will go through so much shit a million times worse than what mgtow has ever been through and only want to stay away from men, not screaming "ALL MEN ARE CHEATERS, ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS, ALL MEN ARE ABUSERS, WE DEMAND YOU TO ONLY LOOK A CERTAIN WAY, ETC"
>There are women abused by psychotic boyfriends. There are men who commit suicide over not being able to see their kids again.
and yet one is objectively worse
>Neither side wants to see the point of view of the other side and thinks the other side hates them.
dude, it's not about he said she said, a lot of women have actual good reasons to hate men, meanwhile a lot of mgtows hate women and literally need to stretch and make up shit to prove how bad women are, we actually have reasons, mgtow doesn't
wow one situation vs the millions of women that are raped and abused by men daily, the several societies that oppress women to hell and back thanks to men, the fact more women are murdered by men than there are men murdered by women, men do most of the murdering, by fact, if you use only a select few situations of women trying to kill their husbands then it only further proves our point and is, by definition, stretching, no one is saying these things don't exist at all, we're saying men are worse, jesus christ
>>220670>>Neither side wants to see the point of view of the other side and thinks the other side hates them.>dude, it's not about he said she said, a lot of women have actual good reasons to hate men,
Had an argument with a MGTOW or Redpiller or someone along that line a while back and they said nearly the same thing you said in reverse thus both of prove my point but I'm sure you'll say he's wrong and that you're right as he would do the same.
I sometimes really do regret that my candidate Asteroid 2016 did not come through. The experiment has run it's course
>>220673>Had an argument with a MGTOW or Redpiller or someone along that line a while back and they said nearly the same thing you said in reverse thus both of prove my point but I'm sure you'll say he's wrong and that you're right as he would do the same.
the simple message is there, but is there explanation, reason and logic?
if you asked what those "reasons" were the mgtow would have most likely said gold digging, divorce rape, cheating, etc
meanwhile men have higher cheating rates, women rarely gold dig, and I mean actual gold digging, not women existing and by mgtow definition its gold digging, and divorce rape has already been debunked
if you ask us why we will tell you about mgtow and the insane amount of shit they do and say, we will tell you about rape, abuse, public harassment, pimping, murder, et
you can think we're wrong, sure, whatever, but women like us wouldn't even be as outspoken about this if it wasn't for the amount of insane shit mgtows say and do, it's one thing a lot of us have had to deal with abuse, shitty men, going through god awful shit no one would ever have to go through and still not hate all men for it, but men will hate women for small shit, which is why we've given up on putting up with their shit, we've had enough of their shit, and if they can run around doing all this shit with no consequences and be praised then we sure as fuck can to and we have actual reasons to do this shit
if a man had been through with anons friend has been through he would be just like the rest of mgtow sprouting mentally ill shit
I want to add something onto the (good) points that you've made, and that's that misogyny is also encouraged and supported by the majority of men. Or even if they "don't agree", they certainly won't call another man out for it because they either agree with it or just don't care enough. If a woman acted 'misandrist', not only will she get attacked by men, she will also get attacked by other women who want to defend men. But men will never ever defend women.
"Women is the nigger of the world" is so far beyond accurate. Hating women is the one form of technical 'bigotry' that any man or women can engage in and nobody will be too bothered by it. Like even the most ~woke progressive~ is probably still a misogynist. It's like every other demographic can find supportive places that won't hate them, but if you try to go into a supportive place as a woman, eventually some misogynistic shit will rear its head and you realize that there really is no place for us. It's just going to get worse and worse as misogyny becomes more accepted and encouraged the way it's headed right now.
Personally I just want to end it all and be reincarnated as some kind of fucking genderless amoeba so that I don't have to be inundated with this shit anymore. I used to take sexism and misogyny with a grain of salt but goddamn it's just too much now. I come home every single day after work and just fucking drink because that's all there is to do, really. You can't speak out about the shit you've experienced because you'll just be laughed at and called a whore and told to stop playing a victim. You have to keep it inside and force yourself to laugh and grin and bear it. But it gets really old doing that and sometimes you just need to scream and get it out, but then they'll say you're just complaining too much and you're just an overemotional female. Sorry for the rant but goddamn am I worn out lately. Just tired. I swear I don't whine this much or talk about this kind of thing in real life.
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With men everything boils down to looks. They see pop idols who look pretty and innocent therefore they believe she is innocent only because of how she looks. >ugly and older women are mean and bitter >hot women who wear makeup are bitchy and slutty >Asian models who wear natural makeup are good people
They just come to these conclusions all based on how women look without even listening to what comes out of their mouth
>>220672>meanwhile men have higher cheating rates,
And how many of those men cheated with women who knew they were married? Quite a high number as those other women were secretaries, nannies, neighbors, etc… who know the situation. It doesn't make the man's cheating any less worse but we have to ask ourselves why would they do that to another woman?
>women rarely gold dig, and I mean actual gold digging
Actual gold digging went out in the 1800s but modern gold digging - can you back that up? Both claims from you and the MGTOWS I would say are subjective
>we will tell you about rape, abuse, public harassment, pimping, murder, et you can think we're wrong
Most men don't which is why we have laws and punishments for these things. There's a lot more men in jail than women and for longer sentences for the same crimes.https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html
>if it wasn't for the amount of insane shit mgtows say and do
Since they are "going their own way" why do you care what they say and do? They are a marginalized group that even other men laugh at and argue with. If you don't think so then you are buying into their used car sales pitch.
>men will hate women for small shit,
not all men do - which is hilarious to point out because the other person I had to say the same about women but you'll probably think "yeah, but I'm right, and he's obviously wrong."
>if they can run around doing all this shit with no consequences and be praised
No consequences? There are plenty men in jail or on on the streets without a home for being shitty towards women and there are many men who hate them and don't praise them. They're called white knights, maginas, betas, etc… by your MGTOW/redpillers but I guess it goes to show their fedora tipping has gone unnoticed as they are branded with the broad brush of "men hate women"
Anyway, just ignore me. Men are bad. All of them. I'll tell that Redpiller Women are bad. All of them. And I'll look to the skies for Asteroid 2018, it'll be smaller this year but enough to do the trick I pray.
>>220682>>meanwhile men have higher cheating rates,
the article claims 40% of women cheat yet the top 10 highest rate of cheating countries range from 32-60%, unless this article was taken from a country with a high rate of cheating then it is statistically impossible, even countries like those men still cheat more
ah, like I guessed, it never shows proof women cheat more, just claims women are more likely to cheat, meanwhile stats show men cheat more despite the fact "genetically" women are more likely to cheat thus making women more strong and not slaves to their genitals and having actual respect for their partner
so yes, thank you for proving my point
>>220682>>meanwhile men have higher cheating rates,
the article claims 40% of women cheat yet the top 10 highest rate of cheating countries range from 32-60%, unless this article was taken from a country with a high rate of cheating then it is statistically impossible, even countries like those men still cheat more
ah, like I guessed, it never shows proof women cheat more, just claims women are more likely to cheat, meanwhile stats show men cheat more despite the fact "genetically" women are more likely to cheat thus making women more strong and not slaves to their genitals and having actual respect for their partner
so yes, thank you for proving my point >>220682
>>220682>They're called white knights, maginas, betas, etc… >getting called a white knight>for being shitty towards women
Do you even know how that term originated and what it means?
>Actual gold digging went out in the 1800s but modern gold digging - can you back that up? Both claims from you and the MGTOWS I would say are subjective
what claim am I making exactly? that MGTOWs have outrageous definitions for what they consider gold digging? because thats easily proven true
for modern gold digging, it's rare as fuck, if it wasn't rare it wouldn't be outcasted so much when a woman actually does gold dig
>Most men don't which is why we have laws and punishments for these things. There's a lot more men in jail than women and for longer sentences for the same crimes.
the whole "men have longer sentences for the same crimes" has been debunked already, men are in prison more because men do more crimes, the study actually doesn't look into each crime though rather men vs women in prison as a whole, do you really think if a woman murders and a man murders the man will get 63% more time than the woman? right, this argument is invalid
>Since they are "going their own way" why do you care what they say and do? They are a marginalized group that even other men laugh at and argue with. If you don't think so then you are buying into their used car sales pitch.
yes why would women be mad they can't do anything without being shit on by mgtows? hmm
>not all men do - which is hilarious to point out because the other person I had to say the same about women but you'll probably think "yeah, but I'm right, and he's obviously wrong."
I never said all men do, but too many men do that's the thing.
>No consequences? There are plenty men in jail or on on the streets without a home for being shitty towards women and there are many men who hate them and don't praise them.
and yet their so many that don, in fact the vast majority of rapists are not even in prison, men who abused and beat the shit out of women aren't in prison either, the most they'll get is a few months or a year at most, it's sad to say that I've been beaten up by a man myself when I was in school and he faced no consequences for it besides detention and people were calling me a snitch, my dad beat up my mom before and when the police were called, they stayed for a few hours, asked questions then nothing happened, my friends step dad beat up his ex wife and he got nothing but charity work, anon in the old thread mention a military dude beat the shit out of several men and women and only got community work and his friends forgave him, this isn;t a rare thing that happens anon
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Go back to reddit, shit. Can the mods start banning these #notallmen people too? All they do is recycle the same shitty points over and over again.
>>220691>because thats easily proven true
ok then prove it. BTW I said the MGTOW's claim is equally subjective so i'm not taking their side
>"men have longer sentences for the same crimes" has been debunked already
It has? Where? By whom?
>men are in prison more because men do more crimes
The point was there are laws in place to punish men who rape, murder, steal, abuse, etc…
>yes why would women be mad they can't do anything without being shit on by mgtows
If they are going their own way how are they shitting on women? Writing bad stuff on their low trafficked reddit page? lol!
>I never said all men do, but too many men do that's the thing
A subjective opinion much like the MGTOWs that say similar things about all women are alike.
>and yet their so many that don, in fact the vast majority of rapists are not even in prison, men who abused and beat the shit out of women aren't in prison either, the most they'll get is a few months or a year at most, it's sad to say that I've been beaten up by a man myself when I was in school and he faced no consequences for it besides detention and people were calling me a snitch, my dad beat up my mom before and when the police were called, they stayed for a few hours, asked questions then nothing happened, my friends step dad beat up his ex wife and he got nothing but charity work, anon in the old thread mention a military dude beat the shit out of several men and women and only got community work and his friends forgave him, this isn;t a rare thing that happens anon
Well I'm sorry for what happened to you but you can't extrapolate what happened to you to an entire gender or society. though if you want to blame a lack of jail time for abusers blame all the overcrowding due to the jailing of non-violent drug offenders. For some reason we do seem to punish them and thieves more than we do violent people.
>>220694>stop trying to excuse the actions of shitty men by blaming it on women>It doesn't make the man's cheating any less worse
I didn't and I said only those who knowingly and willingly not those who didn't know and are completely blameless.
I should add single men who knowingly sleep with married or attached women are equally bad. >>220695
those are UK rates not US ones but I do support jailing domestic abusers and rapists if we can clear out our jails&prisons of non-violent drug offenders who are overcrowding the system thanks to our useless war on drugs.
>>220696>ok then prove it. BTW I said the MGTOW's claim is equally subjective so i'm not taking their side
google is free, and there are several links to videos in the last thread as well as women giving their stories of about men freeloading then the second the woman says he should help pay for bills if he's living there they get called a gold digger
men call women who have jobs gold diggers, claim celebrities who had their nudes exposed during the fappening are gold diggers because they wanted to sue apple. It's not subjective to say mgtow has ridiculous definitions of what a gold digger is, it's a fact.
>It has? Where? By whom?
several people, see the innocence gap in the last thread, besides the fact women do a lot less crime, there are several instances as posted in the last thread where women have actually gotten MORE time than a man had for the same crime
>If they are going their own way how are they shitting on women? Writing bad stuff on their low trafficked reddit page? lol!
no, they're making videos that often get thousands to millions of views, comments bombarded with men agreeing with them and having circle jerks about how women are evil, and I wouldn't care if it was kept in one place but it's gotten to the point where it's leaking out irl and old threads provide good examples of that, you can't even watch normal news videos anymore without comment sections being bombarded with men circle jerking and stretching to make it seem like the womans at fault or trying to find anything they can to bash the woman, and there are millions of examples of this in the old thread
>>>220704>those are UK rates not US ones
:^) if you want an idea of how the justice system has handled rape in the US, here's an interesting little piece that could help put things in perspective for you.https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/columnists/nancy-kaffer/2017/12/17/rape-kit-detroit/953083001/
This Detroit prosecutor Kym Worthy tested thousands of rape kits which were shelved and forgotten about, and subsequently identified 817 serial rapists in one county.>817 serial rapists>in one county>one
And of course this is just taking a small sample of rapes that were reported into account, and the large majority of victims do not report the offense to authorities. This doesn't even scratch the surface of how prevalent rape is. The rabbit hole goes far deeper than you could ever imagine.
>>220705>google is free
I'm sorry but you made the claim. It is not for me to look up your supporting evidence.
you don't by chance have their names?
>no, they're making videos that often get thousands to millions of views,
So? That's called free speech. Make videos countering their videos or make comments under them doing the same showing that not everyone agrees. Will cretin trolls jump on you? Of course but most of them are nameless ones who don't have photo avatars. I generally ignore those because I know those are straight up troll accounts.>>220706>and who does the vast majority of domestic abuse and rape exactly?
people who should be in jail if not for our lopsided prison system>>220709>Nigga, your opinion is that women don't deserve to talk about their bad experiences with men or be more suspicious of them because there are some men who don't rape.
Not my opinion at all and I don't know how you came to that opinion. Not all men rape doesn't mean that no men rape and those men should certainly be in prison. BTW don't use racial slurs.>>220710
see above statement on the overcrowding of US prisons(shit baiting)
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Seeing men rant about women trying to improve their looks is very funny to me. Women wearing makeup pisses men off more than anything. They have an unreasonable amount of hate for makeup.
Okay, then your opinion is that women don't deserve to talk about their bad experiences with men or be more suspicious of them because there are 3 (three) men on earth who aren't misogynistic faggots.
>BTW don't use racial slurs
I'm half black, fuck off [back to reddit]
>>220713>It is not for me to look up your supporting evidence.
well you know, you can link back to the old thread but I don't feel like writing novels with supporting evidence on why men who have extreme definitions of what a gold digger is has an extreme definition of what a gold digger is
>you don't by chance have their names?
why would someone post their names on anonymous forums? and why would I post people in real life I know names on here?
>So? That's called free speech. Make videos countering their videos or make comments under them doing the same showing that not everyone agrees.
free speech means you face consequences for saying grotesque and hypocritical dumbass shit,
>Of course but most of them are nameless ones who don't have photo avatars. I generally ignore those because I know those are straight up troll accounts.
so every single person just "happens" to be a troll that puts hours of their time into hating women and talking about how awful women are? right, a lot of the time, it's their true opinion and leaks into real life as well as other counterparts on the internet, especially news, like anons will provide screencap after screencap of awful incel level shit men will say on places where it doesn't belong, like the screencap of the man who ranted about "nasty lazy skanks running around leaking everywhere" under a video about a woman who got fired for leaking on an office chair, just look at the inceltears subreddit, it's not just a thing that happens on one place sadly, which is the entire point.
yee, I know people mock this "hur dur free stuff for my vagina" but ffs, I understand the need to pay for a basic need, toliet paper, toothbrushes, shampoo, soap, ie I don't think the government should have to send all women pads or anything, if they're literally firing people now for leaking on the seats the least they can do is put free pads or tampons in bathrooms, especially for women who never know when they're going get their period like women with pcos or just women with irregular periods in general
shit like this use to happen to me and I actually stained my friends car seat because my periods were so irregular, as in I could get 2 periods in one month, skip a few months, start again for 3 weeks straight, etc, I always started during the day to and I'm poor and didn't wanna wear a pad everyday for the rest of my life just to be sure i dont leak everywhere
when you leak you leak, it's gross and embarrassing, but it doesn't make you as a person unhygienic, also why do guys go months without showering or brushing their teeth but act like a woman leaking is unhygenic
also lazy? skanky?
how do those things even coordinate with a woman accidentally leaking on the seat?
god I hate men like this
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Reminder that most men see nothing wrong with this, if not support it.
Maybe they hate us /that much/ that everyone must love them and suck their dicks, online and off. Anyone or anywhere that isn't praising men for building cities and supporting their misogyny should be harassed and raided. Who knows, really. But its clear that they hate women too much for things to get better. >>220760
Yup. They'd love extreme sharia law if it only meant for women to only exist as breeding animals to abuse and blame everything that goes wrong on.>And you are wrong. Most men in the world share my views.
Uhuh. We know.
But this thread is all women and they don't seem like they would softball their answers like on Reddit. I would be happier if I could get some tips on how to talk to women without being absolutely terrified, but all they say is "women are not like your stepmom it's okay." Fuck's sake, I know my stepmom was immensely different from a normal woman but that doesn't help.
I want someone to be frank with me. I've made little strides these past months like being able to check out groceries with a female cashier and not crying and running away when I accidentally bump shoulders with a woman, but I feel like my progress is too slow and I'll be too old to have a family when I finally get over it.
>>220817> I've made little strides these past months like being able to check out groceries with a female cashier and not crying and running away when I accidentally bump shoulders with a woman, but I feel like my progress is too slow
are you trolling us? if millions of women can get raped and abused by several men and still continue normal lives then you can easily have a normal life despite the fact one woman in your life was crazy
Hell even the girl who was raped repeatedly, abused awfully on the daily for years and finally got taken away with her adoptive dad chased her with a gun after throwing her into a mirror, even she doesn't have problems with men
>>220817>But this thread is all women
Yes, about hating men. You're just going to receive answers like >>220821
that wont actually help you at all but instead affirm your belief that women are indeed something to be scared. Look man, women aren't a different species. They're not aliens. You're overthinking it.
I've been insulted over my fear before in person when I was in school, so I know this would be a likely outcome. The point is that there's no one here who would baby me about it, which is far worse. I think it would be far more likely to have a genuine response here than anywhere else because there's no obligation to lokk good or caring on a completely anonymous site with a woman's perspective.
I know I might seem desperate, and I pretty much am at this point because I exhausted everything outside of just treating everything like a work conversation. I don't want to do that though because I stop treating people like people and just treat them like customers.(Beta)
honestly, you just sound like a pussy who uses one bad experience you had in order to milk it and use it as an excuse for attention and to be batshit crazy, I knew people exactly like you who would have one bad thing happen to them and then use it as an excuse for the rest of their life to cry about it and use it to seek attention, reminds me of one guy I knew who acted like he was an abused child because his dad called him useless once and gave him cold showers when he was little to punish him because his parents were against spanking, it's always the people who shouldn't be running around acting like they faced awful deep issues, who are the ones doing this shit
>crying and running away when I accidentally bump shoulders with a woman
yeah… either you're a confirmed whiney pussy or a troll
I agree with that anon, you really should give therapy another go. It sounds like your fear stems from that one traumatic event, so unfortunately I don’t think it will go away on its own. If you can’t find a male therapist in your area, they do have online therapy now. You have sessions in a chat room like environment so you won’t ever have to go to them. I think they also do Skype sessions as well. I’m not sure how effective these are because I’ve never done them but I’ve seen a lot of people talk about it and they seem to think it’s no different than physically visiting a therapist.
As for what you can do in your day to day life, I suggest small interactions with women while you are also with men you feel comfortable with. Like next time you go to a party with your closest male friends, try to strike up small conversations with women while they’re around. It might make you feel more comfortable and less anxious when you’re friends are there to back you up so to speak.
Thank you very much, I never even heard of online therapy before. I think getting over the little bits will still be helpful and I appreciate the reassurance a lot.
It's sad to see that people have it worse, but it helps me feel a little better about my situation and makes it less intimidating.
Here is the one I was thinking of when I wrote that post. Seems to be the most popular one that people recommend, but there are tons on Google.
For future reference, you might want to post in the vent thread if you want to talk about your problems further. In this thread, most of us are angry and fed up, so it just won't be the most receptive/supportive place for a man to open up. You were respectful and peaceful and that's nice to see from a maleposter for once, so I think you will have no problems in one of the vent threads. But anyway I hope therapy helps ease some of your issues. Good luck.
They want women to be virgin prudes until marriage then become nymphos with high sex drives once they lose it but they also want women to fuck them on command becausw "it reduces rape"
Men are idiots, become gay
>>220849>they also want women to fuck them on command because "it reduces rape"
I love how men almost constantly (and accidentally) admit that men have no self control and are so animalistic that they prioritize their urges over civility and the well being of others. It's really funny.
And then they ask why women might be afraid of men, or constantly look at men as a ticking time bomb. Well, you told us that all it takes is a short skirt or a sexual dry spell for you to lose it and assault or rape someone. That's certainly what the implication is, at least.
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Has anyone had any success with cutting off men from their lives?
I endured a lot because of men and everyone I meet is trash but I still cannot help wanting sex and love.
It is really frustrating and only grows more over time
Pic is from my nightmare tinder profiles collection
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can't relate. maybe don't get born a hetero next time, nerd.
lmao. I always thought the whole 'mansplaining' thing was a bit ridiculous. I know the phenomenon is technically a thing, but the whole campaign and name just felt dumb to me. HOWEVER I find it funny how men constantly take women's complaints and reverse them in order to seem like the REAL victims in every situation. It comes across so petty. First they started saying femsplaining, now it's "toxic femininity", though I'm still not sure what the fuck that means. I doubt any man could even tell me. It's so funny because they get so fucking offended by these words that they have to throw little fits and reverse the roles which feels very much like "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I" schoolyard bullshit.
Men are perfect baby angels that can do no wrong <3 Even when they rape murder and destroy, women are the bad and evil ones!!!11!
(But to answer your question, I have had success to a certain degree. I still interact with my brother and dad of course, and my male coworkers. But that's it. I don't seek men out, I don't date them or sleep with them (I feel like that's when you experience the most shit - from the guys who you try to pursue a relationship with.) But I should also mention that I'm very introverted and quite like being alone, so it wasn't as difficult for me to be comfortable not having a significant other or coming to terms with the fact that I'll ~be alone forever.~ For people who really crave human companionship, especially that of the opposite sex, of course it will be rough at first. But if you feel like that will improve your life, and the pros outweigh the cons, I'm sure you'll be fine.)
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They're debating our "value" now. Over 1k people want to basically watch people say that women have less value than a fucking rag and belong in a ditch.
I do love being alive! There's always more misogyny waiting for me the next day.
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Wish I was born a lesbian so I didn't have to deal with disgusting men.
>>220898>I hate dealing with straight women that try and turn lesbian since they just end up fucking with the feelings of actual lesbians
Eh yeah as a straight woman that's tried to have a romantic relationship with a woman to see if it would "work" I don't advise that other straight women do the same. We had a great bond but I just couldn't get emotionally attached to her the same way I do with men. Ended up leading her on for too long and just made a mess of it all. I still feel bad about it to this day.
Though I can never cultivate the same type of trust, openness, and friendship with the men I've dated that I could with her. That's the cruelest part of all…
>>220897>That image&file name
Anyway yeah, even lesbians aren't safe. Men either aggressively shit on them because a woman who they can't fuck is worthless trash in their eyes, or become predatory transwoman "lesbians" trying to coax women into enjoying their manbody and dick.
>>220798>implying they're actually listening and not just screaming #NOTALLMEN REEEEE fuck you femoids
Anon. Please.>>220876>femsplan ;)
Every day I'm grateful I'm not a heterosexual.
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Thanks for input, yes men have strange thing for taking everything women do and make it about themselves>>220881>>220925
If there was any way to change my orientation I would do so
what does he even want to achieve? lol
also I see they're both Polish, jfc good thing they emigrated the fuck out. I don't see this "intellectual hipster meninist" type here much. But I know many "regular everyday normal guys" who casually share posts about triggered feminazis
and how feminism is ruining the world and of course Anita Sarkeesian. uhh
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Men will ignore reality and statistics if it means they can make women out to be evil liars who can't be trusted. Yeah it's just two people in the internet, but this is how most men think. Rape isn't that bad, false accusations are what we should really be worried about because those affect men more than rape does. The problems that affect men are the REAL problems, women can be raped, beaten, and murdered but it's fine because they're women and they're probably either lying or deserved it.
I swear I don't know why I get up in the morning. People wonder why women don't come forward or wait until more women come forward so that they aren't alone, well guess what. Shit like this is why. You just get punished all over again. This is why I never told my family or my therapist or anything and I have to keep everything inside to myself until the day I blow my fucking head off.
I don't think he understood what that song is really about, but just picked that one line about not getting laid. Incredible.
What is this poor attempt at negging, does he expect you to "prove" yourself to his worthless ass or what?
These posts remind me of one dude I was really good friends with, we got along great until one day we somehow got onto the subject of rape and he pulled the whole "but what about false accusations!!" thing, and when I tried to explain to him that all women have to be on guard constantly when they go out because you don't know who is a rapist and who isn't and how you can even get raped by someone you're just on a date with, he actually tried to argue that if someone drugs and rapes you it's not that bad because at least you're unconscious while it's happening :^)
Then I found out he was also abusing his gf, real shocker.
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They didnt move, I am from Poland but since most (and worst) profiles are in Polish I used few that are in English.
>>220958>it makes people less likely to take genuine victims seriously when it does happen
people are ALREADY not taking actual victims of rape seriously, even before the first said woman lied about rape, people have accused women of lying about rape before women even started lying about rape>>220957
is proof of thathttps://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=297
This guy himself is not taking rape victims seriously, because he thinks 99% of all accusations are false. Going off the statistics, anywhere from 93%-98% are "real" rapes, so those are all the ones he's not taking seriously.
I swear man…I just can't stand men. Even when I meet ones that I think are funny, or smart, or interesting to talk to, in the back of my mind I'm just like "yeah he may be all those things, but he hates women. He doesn't even want you to enjoy those things about him, he wants you to shut the fuck up, suck his dick, and go away so that he can go be funny, smart, and interesting with other men."
Does anybody else get what I mean? It hurts even worse to meet a 'nice' man knowing that he hates women and could never admire you and enjoy your company the way you admire him and enjoy his. It's even worse than meeting an outright misogynist, because it's like if I were a man we could actually have an equal relationship and have fun together.
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>>220958>Rape isn't that bad, false accusations are what we should really be worried about because those affect men more than rape does.
Their reasoning makes no sense since a man is far more likely to get raped than be falsely accused of rape.
I'm guessing it's because when a man is raped he's usually raped by another man, so there's no woman the men can release their anger onto.
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Ntayrt, (I’d advise NOT visiting right now) but I’ve provided a screenshot of the url instead of a link for you; she isn’t kidding when she says “men are fucking it up”. There’s animal gore being posted and it’s really bad. Otherwise, it’s a strict woman-only site geared towards users of boards like /ot/ and /g/; if a poster adds “MALE HERE,” he’s banned.
This is the type of shit we’ve been saying in this thread: any space we try to keep for ourselves, males must force their way in. Fuck this.
Oh, so like another lolcow?
Can you discuss music on there?
Sad to see Robots keep shitting the place up. All they do is antagonise people they see as the enemy. Women is one of them.
No one can tell me that this dude hasn't touched his kid at least once, this isn't even the worst thing he's said about her. Fucking gross.>>220991
Fuck these entitled manchildren, it's like they just start convulsing on their keyboards whenever anything
isn't about them. Imo it wouldn't be a problem if a man goes to a female-oriented site and quietly participates in the discussion, but they have to be shitty attention whores about it at all times>I have a DICK!! Ladies?? ;)
Lmao but it's more like "I have a dick and that makes me better than you roasties!!111"
The word 'lady' has never been uttered by any of these dudes.
"Everything you use was built by men, how dare you get upset that they hate you and treat you like subhuman trash!!!11"
- Your next post, probably.
"Hey is this website run by a man?"
under man hating thread
no one cares if you hate men or not, most of us don't even hate them, despite us having every reason to do so, also saying you don't hate men only proves our point
what were you trying to get out of being "just curious! no other reason! totally not being passive aggressive"
go back to reddit
Nah we all know why you asked the question because robots show up and pull the same shit at least once a week.
"You hate men!? Well you're on a website created and run by a man!! Be grateful! You have to shut the fuck up and accept being treated like complete dogshit because men are superior and built everything!!1"
Try to be less obvious next time.
>>221037>Well isn't that the same thing? The person who made this site =admin?
Oh come on, you can't be that dumb>Who currently runs this site? That's what I really want to know. If a man created it but a woman runs it? Cool. I like that
Then ask meta if you really are that concerned about the gender of whoever runs the site, not a man-hating thread then wondering why people call out your bullshit>If a man created it but a woman runs it? Cool. I like that
yeah, sure you do
Why are you so bitter? No, I dont work in IT so I don't understand how website ownership works.
You're a bitch. Seriously. I'm not going to ask meta because I want an answer from you all
>>221040> No, I dont work in IT so I don't understand how website ownership works.
it doesn't take a tech genius to realize a site that says "farmhand(aka admin) applications are now open" at the top, to realize admin=/=site creator
>I'm not going to ask meta because I want an answer from you all
thank you for proving my point then, you don't actually care because you're "just curious"
>Don't tell me what I like or don't like
I'm not, I never did, go back to reddit instead of screaming "bitch!!!" when someone calls you out
Yeah! Admin-chan and original userbase were all lolcow posters. You can talk about music, video games, paranormal, any interest. There are boards for fashion and makeup, but I’m not super feminine and only know they exist. >>221040
lmfaoooo, nobody owes you shit, handmaiden. You’re a /pol/yp, or you’re eager to suck them. Either way, I demand you lick the floor and like it, ~B I T C H~
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MGTOWs are just clingy cucks with abandonment issues who use the sour grapes coping mechanism. They harbor more corny fantasies about eternal love and peaceful domesticity than tween girls do.
Pic related? Mega fucking kek
This thread is not so much about hating men, it's about hating how much men hate us and the shitty things they do because of that hatred. If you read through it a bit, you'll see it's actually just people being upset about misogyny and societal/male attitudes towards women. This also happens to be what I would bet is the most derailed thread on the board, so if you actually do have questions about who runs the site or whatever, you can go to /meta/ and ask and you will probably get an answer. I think people are upset because we just want this one board to talk about misogyny/sexism and someone (usually robots) comes in and derail and mock the fact that the thread even exists, so that's why people are so hostile to you. We just want the thread to remain what it was supposed to be about and we wish it would stop getting fucked all the time.
Also, not everyone here is a radical feminist. We are all different.
Men are biologically inferior. That Y chromosome is nothing but a shitty unfinished X one. They should learn about actual biology instead of a stinkpeice of a dumb tv show made by some autist.
They will argue that women are weak and useless but at the same time we have the power to emasculate men. What does that make them if they are emasculated by women whom they regard as weak and pathetic? Kek they're not even, actually emasculated. They're just useless because they want to be. They think they can compensate for being talentless, useless, male market failures with their posturing and mistreating women.
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Men even sexualize their own daughters.
Please spoiler>"yeah ladies youre supposed to love being molested as children!! Biolgy!! Fuck the fact so many women had been molested by their fathers and are now mentally scarred from it some even have pstd!! You like it!">'I dont get it why do women hate us We're just saying the truth"
If these were moms talking about their sons in this manner the reddit would be shut down immediately and men would rant about how disgusting women are and mgtows would use this as a reason to avoid women and yet us women are supposed to deal with this shit
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anyone else thinks people who knowingly accuse rape/abuse/sexual assault victims of lying should be punished also? IMO it's just as harmful as people who lie about being raped, abused or assaulted, it would also serve as a scare tactic to prevent people who know the rapist or abuser is guilty from claiming the said person lied
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reading posts like this is laughable to me lol
I'm asian and I learned my lesson from dating these greasy neckbeards
they don't give a shit about you, they're just with you for the sole reason you're asian and in their mind you're submissive for no other reason but your race
they get extremely creepy around us as well, and almost ALWAYS end up cheating
a lot of them get extremely abusive when they don't get what they want then scream and cry when you aren't what they pictured in their mind and then whine when you dare call out their disgusting tactics
like if you want a submissive doormat so badly go try to find some alt right traditional hoe like lauren or june
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You're the guy from the thread I posted his from. You aren't fooling anyone kek. At least use different wording so we know it isn't you.
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I don't think my wording is similar to his in any way, but you seem very visibly upset.
Here's my absence of (you)
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>>221109> He just thinks asian women look better and thinks white women have more masculine features.>>221110
i figured it was a man, most asian women even admit the asian women men use to prove asian women look better are plastic surgeried and shooped to hell and back
>>221109>I'm asian too
No you're not.
If the fact that someone's asian is the main reason you're attracted to them, then you're just a racist neckbeard who thinks that Asian girls all look like photoshopped cosplay models and will worship your tiny dick.
I never said that, you seem really upset? Are you mad because you're ugly? >>221112
Factually, you do anon.
exactly, they claim to love asians so much but only when they're japs, chinese or koreans who have had their skin whitened to hell and back and have had surgery yet in the same breath they will worship girls like agatha, anzu, emma watson, allison harvard, and katya (katya is actually white btw, I know people claim she's part japanese but she posts her sisters and family on IG who all have blonde hair and blue eyes)
they claim to be sooo attracted to asian women but don't show any signs of actual attraction outside of telling all their buddies asians are submissive and posting celebrities that look nothing like actual asians
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you do realize a lot of women that go here are aisan right?
>Factually, you do anon.
where at though?
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I don't mind, I didn't make the thread though. No (you)s on my end.
I didn't want to fight, just sharing an anecdote and you attacked me.
Oh, I'm not at all. I only retaliated because you acted aggressive towards me. The only thing I said was that not all of them are bad. For the most part, many of them give me a bad experience but I met at least one good one. I don't think them liking asian women is the reason they're bad. >>221128
Then why are you still so upset?
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>>221106>goes on tv to talk about how he prefers fucking his sex doll more than his wife
I feel bad for any woman who ends up marrying a yellow fever fag. They don't respect their wives at all.
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don't take the fat white bois b8
>>221142>hehe my bf is better than yours
Is this how you think women think anon?you think we are just brain dead retards who compare bfs and measure our worth on how many guys want to date is?
How do you know I'm not a lesbian?
Ugly women don't. >How do you know I'm not a lesbian?
Because you're upset over yellow fever. I don't get upset over "white fever" from asian guys. That just shows how ugly and unattractive you are. It's a projection of your insecurity and an inferiority complex.(infighting)
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>>221142> But I know for sure my boyfriend is more attractive than yours.
"my boyfriend is hotter than yours and you're just jealous because you subconsciously think us cute asians are superior even if you're asian yourself!!"
Oh shut up anthony, we've seen it all, we've seen the neckbeards who get off and constantly and badly stretch so the whole "UGLY WHITE ROASTIES ARE JELLY OF ASIANS!!!" thing fits their narrative, and only ends up making them look flat out ridiculous, and this is coming from a hapa
also isn't it 4chinners who value women on how virginal they are? last time I checked talking about how many guys want to fuck you isn't very virginal or classy
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Idk why robots give rose from Star Wars so much shit for being ugly. I don't think she looks that bad. Looks a average everyday woman.
but I don't have yellow fever. >Can a ugly woman not be a good person with accomplishments?
They can but you're clearly insecure over being ugly. >>221145>value women on how virginal they are?
And they're wrong for it. You are jealous though, being upset over my opinion just proves it. :) It's creepy how upset you guys get over me saying that I've had one instance of a yellow fever guy being a good experience.
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none of us are upset that some pasty fat white boys worship asian girls. I actually feel sad for asian girls that they have to be objectified and having their value as humans redused to racist and sexist stereotypes, like that they're submissive and weak etc etc.>>221148>Idk why robots give rose from Star Wars so much shit for being ugly
because men are blind hypocrites
One question, why does no one get upset over white fever, or jungle fever, or latin fever? but when it's yellow fever I only see nothing but insecurity and backlash? I've never seen a single comment in my life disparaging someone saying white women are their preference. >>221152
It does mean something, but you're still visibly insecure and it's obvious why
to me it seem almost like they purposly made her ugly, with baggy clothes and that haircut
however I didn't watched the movie and she looks like some mechanic so maybe it makes sense in context of her character
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they only like asian women if they're unnatural sadly>>221149>You are jealous though, being upset over my opinion just proves it
jealous of what exactly anthony? I have nothing to be jealous for, I make 100k a year, boyfriend looks like a male model and is tall and wears suits a lot, I don't care about you supposedly good looking boyfriend, considering what women call good looking nowadays I highly doubt that>being upset over my opinion just proves it
You can call someone out over their pretentious bullshit and not be jealous believe it or not>It's creepy how upset you guys get over me saying that I've had one instance of a yellow fever guy being a good experience.
It's erm… creepy?Do you know what creepy means? Hunny, it's creepy you come here and pretend to be a ~cute azn girl worshipping bf~ when it's more than obvious you're from 4chin>I've had one instance of a yellow fever guy being a good experience.
and magically somehow millions of other asian women have had god awful experiences with yellow fevers but magically you don't and it's only because he thinks those icky whites are manly bt=y fact (you still haven't given me evidence) and asian girls are the most feminine of them all (still no proof since white people have the highest amount of estro and lowest test than any other race)
very true. i often see men use pictures of women with heavy photoshop, makeup and plastic surgery as to why they like natural women, when those women aren't natural at all! ironically, they shit on women that are plastic as well.
meanwhile men complain when we have standards.
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I've come to the conclusion that when men say they like natural women they mean women who have natural makeup on(pic related)and plastic surgery that isn't retardly obvious. They look fake shit that gives off the illusion of being real.
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You call me stupid in the same breath tell me I said something I never said at all>And I never said even most of them are good experiences
I never said you did, I clearly pointed out how it's funny just about all asian women have had bad experiences with yellow fevers but magically you're the one girl who didn't have a bad experience from one guy who is a yellow fever because ugly white roasties are manly?
right , do you even know what you're saying?> I don't think my experience says anything but there are exceptions to anything.
then why post them here if they don't mean anything then scream "UR JUS JELLY!!!!!" to anyone who calls you out?
>but there are exceptions to anything.
Fetishizing an entire race and claiming "___race is ___" is wrong, period, there are no exceptions to it
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But people do get upset about white fever
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" I don't think preferences are good or bad. I think every single person has a preference."
you can have a preference without shitting on people who aren't that preference then running around screaming about how people who tell you it's wrong are just ugly and jealous
>but I think it's okay to like physical features of a group, if that's your sexual preference.
that's the thing, white women aren't masculine, in fact most white women are actually pretty feminine looking, some would say they're even more feminine looking than some asians, that's why what they're saying it wrong>>221167
it always makes me laugh when pathetic desperate women fetishize their own race for attention
If you're trying to claim all women look masculine because of their race and that is racist. You're claiming we all look alike because of our race.
Not only is it racist but it's delusional because you're trying to claim Asian women are more feminine while using idols as an example to prove this is the truth.
men think women are completely hairless, born with makeup, perfect feauteres etc etc
another interesting thing is that men hate on taller girls, but use famous models that are all tall as for what women should look like. that is just more proof that men are retarded
Yeah you did, you did it in your thread on r9k and now you're on here trying to pretend you're Asian. You said white women have more masculine features cough
I mean your bf said that kek
They do though, all the time. You must not be looking very hard.
It's hilarious that you assume that everyone calling you out on your shit is insecure and ugly, please keep projecting. >>221174
Don't act innocent and "I just think people can have a preference, you guys are so unreasonable!!", when you bragged about your "boyfriend" thinking all asian and white women look the same as a race, and then pretended everyone was just jealous of that good dicking you get. No one accused of making the thread either.
>tfw robots try to gaslight you
I don't think plastic koreans are pretty either.>>221179
They did accuse me though. >>221180
I tend to agree with it though I don't think they all do. >>221181
I think you are but you are free to disagree.
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some serious backpedaling here>>221186
you do realize a majority of the women that go here are in fact asian, are you going to tell me asian women are jealous of you being asian somehow?
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Then go fap to Korean idols because no one cares.
On another note . Why do men always sexualize things meant for children?im not sure if I'm the only one grossed out by the way men sexualize my little pony.
Unfortunately, ugly women are beneath men to them. Barely human, like you said.
Anyways, can we please please please stop shitting up this thread with white vs. asian? Why does it matter? Assuming that we are all women here right now, men still hate us and view us as inferior regardless of which race is hotter to them. I'm sure Asian women have a unique experience in regards to fetishization, but please stop pitting women against each other and putting entire races of women down because men don't want to fuck them or whatever, as if not being treated as insentient fuckmeat is some kind of tragedy.
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no, all YOU do is prove how utterly retarded men are, while you're maximising your creepyness, and minimising your chance of ever getting a girlfriend. must suck to be inferior to women. >>221188
imo its because most men are perverted at large. many men don't realise this before they have daughters themselves, which is extremely sad, that it takes so much for them to realise it. and many continue to be perverts. it probably also gives them some type of rush, considering that its looked at as a taboo and illegal in most cultures, except from some Asian ones.
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I personally don't even know if I would feel comfortable letting my future husband give baths to my daughters
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>>221189> white women have stronger jaws
maybe british white women, but most white women have tiny ass jaws, and age amazingly without surgery, hell have you ever even been to italy, greece, france, etc? did you not see the "women age like milk" thing thats been debunked earlier that used white women to debunk it?
Asians can age like shit too, I've seen asian women look 70 at 50, and have you seen all the befores for korean and japanese plastic surgery? they have killer jaws
> Saying there are trends isn't the same as saying everyone is the same.
even if you're claiming it's a trend it's still wrong because more white women have tiny jaws and age good
I relate (I'm 5'9 tho). A guy once told me that he would never date me because I am too tall. Bitch, who the hell told him that I would ever want your short ass in the first place lmao>>221194
Same, same. A dude told me that he was 6' but he was shorter than me by a lot
men literally needs to feel superior to women in all ways, and they lie but claim that we lie OVER SUCH LITTLE THINGS
>>220429>or getting divorced and having half the stuff taken away along with the kids
maybe because women brought it to and now you aren't allowed to just throw women on the streets anymore without consequences ?>along with the kids
No one is taking your kids away, men can easily get custody over their children assuming they aren't abusive, have a criminal record and are mentally stable, just none of them want to, boohoo
>or getting raped as a youth by a female teacher
uh yeah, most of the "female teacher fucks male student" shit I've seen happens to high schoolers, it's bad yes but most of the high schoolers were establishing the relationship as well as a lot of them admitting to liking it, and even then, teachers fucking teenage boys isn't even comparable to the amount of old men raping little girls, like actual fucking toddlers and sometimes babies, I'd take young adults who fuck teenagers consensually over child rapists anyday
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If you don't want to get "half your stuff" taken away in divorce, don't fucking get married. It's that easy.
So there's one big complaint that men have thrown out the window. Problem solved. At least you don't get shat on by society, you aren't looked at as inferior, your intelligence and general capabilities aren't questioned just on your gender but rather on your performance as an individual, you don't have. Men are never questioned about SHIT.
Here's an old thread, but if you'd like to know what it's like being a woman in the workforce, or in general, read through it. Next time a robot tries to come in here bitching, link them to this shit. Pic related is how men see women. Society and people in general would NEVER say something like that about men. They are free to walk around and pursue whatever path in life they choose, and nobody will every say shit like this about them. Now imagine half the population views you this way, and it's no wonder they don't treat you like a human being. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1myzqk/women_of_reddit_what_is_the_most_misogynistic/
I've only seen the one I linked, the food one, but yeah he seemed like an obnoxious fuck with a superiority complex and just the all around typical yellow fetishist.
I don't understand what his wife finds attractive about him.
There's this one interview with Milo Yiannopoulos there he goes on that women are getting fatter and fatter (why does he even care how a gender he's not attracted to looks?) using as exampple that the average weight a few decades ago was a lot less. Not that women are also always getting taller ad obesity has been a problem of males seemingly since the beginning of times
Plus he was fat himself once
>>221326>why does he even care how a gender he's not attracted to looks?
Not exactly the same topic, but they do seem obsessed with women. There's a lot of discussion in my country atm about legalising abortion because it might be a reality soon and literally every gay man I know has an opinion. Most of the young, tumblr-using crowd are all for it but a lot aren't of voting age so it doesn't even matter. But from my generation and older, the more "traditional" gay men are mostly voting to keep it illegal and will get into debates with me over it.
It's fucking disgusting because they're never going to have to worry about being in a situation like that. Makes me wonder if because they're older and from a different generation where it was pretty much assumed everyone was going to one day start a family and they're still bitter about how they can't start one without surrogacy or adoption.
I'm fully aware of where we are so this is probably an unpopular view, but:
My former best friend (we're not friends anymore for unrelated reasons) came out as ftm, and somehow a bunch of other people around me did too over the next 2 years or so, so I know a few. I'd have no problem dating a trans guy but some do a full 180 and get incredibly insecure about doing anything "feminine" or have extra baggage. They usually have significantly less shitty views on women though, so make of that what you will. It's a double-edged sword.
Keep in mind that hormones also fuck with your genitals though so it would be slighly different from dating someone with an average vag.
If they all can just have their dolls and leave us alone permanently forever, that'd be nice. We all know they only tolerate women for sex anyway and if they get it with those dolls, there's no reason for any of us to be together. >>221019
Peaceful, organic lives away from men and their ugly violence. Look at this shit >>221085
and tell me that you'd like to raise a family with a man still, especially one with daughters. I'm fucking disgusted and done.
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how is your wife's son?
if it's one thing men hate it's getting a taste of their own medicine, they believe women are just like them and compare which race is more attractive but fail to realize women don't think only one race can be attractive
why do you think when men are boasting about how attractive asian women are, they ALWAYS feel the need to bash white, black or latina women? (even though the asians they do post are ones that have had their skin whitened and had PS)
they can't just say "these asian women are attractive" or whatever
they always mention some shit like "LOOK AT THESE PERFECT ASIAN HOES TO MAKE THE WHITE DISGUSTING ROASTIES JEALOUS BE MAD WHITE ROASTIES LEAVE WHITE WOMEN 2018 FUCK BLACK WOMEN ASIAN WOMEN ARE GOD TIER SUBMISSIVE PERFECT WHITE ROASTIES AND BLACK ROASTIES ARE UGLY AND JEALOUS"
meanwhile when women find men of other races attractive they simply say "___ is sooo attractive" but men have it in their heads that the second a woman finds a man of a different race attractive, we are saying the shit they are saying to us and start bashing men of that race then run around screaming how women will leave their bfs for men of that race all because of a fantasy they have created in their own head
I once knew a guy whos gf was going to a trip in lebanon and all the other guys were on about how she was probably getting fucked by abdus and omars, meanwhile the chick didn't do shit on the trip besides study, like seriously what the fuck is wrong with men
Projection. They'll cling to asian women hoping it'll make white women ~roasties~ jealous because they're ridiculously insecure themselves. And then they'll knock asian guys down so less competition for waifus. Its pathetic lol.
That swimmer is a absolute, handsome cutie too. >>221399
They always think about sex for anything. A girl can go on a trip and they'll be the first to say something about ONS or hookups when the girl could be seeing family or studying. For men to call women whores for everything we do, they sure do insinuate that they're ones too.
>>221403>They'll cling to asian women hoping it'll make white women ~roasties~ jealous because they're ridiculously insecure themselves.
exactly, most girls don't give a shit who they date but they do, like what >>221403
said, it's projection, they think just because stacy went for someone who wasn't white and they were mad about it, they think we were going to be mad that they fap to fake kpop idols or buy mail order brides but fail to realize no one gives a shit greasy greg from 4chan was so hurt by stacy because she said it was gross of him to grab her ass that now his buddies told him asians fuck everyone and everything and are submissive he goes and creeps out poor asian women because of what his buddies told him
what we are mad about is that the asian women they praise are the ones who get their skin whitened and PS, and say somehow these neckbeards do get an asian gf, they have no respect for her whatsoever, they'll be completely abusive to her, cheat on her, especially with the "white roasites" they claim to hate so much, sometimes even physically abusive to her, post naked pics of her everywhere, having no respect for her at all and shitting on her at all times and then expect her to just deal with it because they think she won't eventually do anything about it, these men are just god awful and what's worse is a lot of them are forced into like the ones from thailand who get sex trafficked or mail order brides
>hoping it'll make white women ~roasties~ jealous because they're ridiculously insecure themselves.
exactly, why do you think MGTOWs make videos like this? They don't actually like asian women, they like the idea the internet put in their head about them and they like the idea of "Western roasties" being jealous and have to twist and turn everything to make it seem in their minds that western women are bursting with anger over yet they aren't, they just think it's weird and that sex trafficking is wrong>>221404
exactly, meanwhile men are the ones going to japan and thailand solely to buy prostitutes and creep out asian women and a lot of the time their GFs aren't even slightly suspicious about it
MGTOW is just beyond strange to me, and I understand it less and less everyday. Literally EVERY MGTOW space that I've ever seen is dedicated to women. That's all they ever talk about. And the common defense I see is that they are trying to "warn" other men, and they don't actually give a fuck about women, but the amount of pure vitriol and bitterness they have suggests otherwise.
Just want to say that I support MGTOW in theory. I think if people know that marriage/children/relationships won't fulfill them and make them happy, more power to them if they want to avoid those things forever. Personally I like being alone more than anything, so I understand not desiring those things. I also think more people should dedicate more of their time to their hobbies and activities that soothe them and take their minds off the rat race that is life. But it's becoming increasingly clear that MGTOW isn't about that. It's about their revenge fantasy where their wife who left them for another man, or the 16 year old cheerleader who denied their prom invitation, will one day come crawling back to them and then they can turn the tables and reject those women the way they were rejected. Nothing made this clearer to me than a post (that I can no longer find) around the time of Hurricane Harvey, where they were talking about how in prolonged natural disasters, women will get desperate and start sucking dick for food, shelter, and help because they are simply incapable of doing things themselves. And they fantasized about slamming the door in their faces and leaving them out to die lmao.
The truth is that this won't happen. These men remove themselves from any sort of dating pool, but it won't have any lasting impact on women. It isn't a punishment the way they seem to think it is. Women won't miss what they don't even know is gone, and even though MGTOW refuses to acknowledge this, the women who they want to punish will just find another man. No woman is crawling back to misogynists on her hands and knees, begging for their money and love.
Not to mention that a lot of women are emotionally and financially independent now. But MGTOW quite literally can't fathom the idea of women working and having jobs. So idk.
>>221414> Most women can see attractive men in all races but with men it's like "unless she's Asian or white she's ugly!".
Not really. I'd even argue it's the opposite. I'm speaking from personal experience, all my friends don't find black men attractive, personally neither do I. I mean, the negroid features are not attractive at all. Asians in general aren't attractive (with the exception of koreans and japs if the person is a weeb).
But that's just a personal anegdote, so according to some polls and studies caucasian women are least likely to date outside of their race.
In fact, a frech guy once said "My brain is racist but my dick is humanist" or something like that. A guy will say a lot of things but he will make exceptions when it comes to his dating pool.
Yee, a lot of the time its not even what they look like either, its just the race they're concerned about, mostly because of what they believe about said race
IE I knew a white woman who was racially ambiguous looking, so when she met a guy who said something like "oh im into arab girls" or "oh im into asian girls" she easily just claimed to be that said race and they flocked over her and would often bash white women when talking to her but not realize she is in fact white,and it is also funny how men who fetishize asian women will be racist against certain type of asians "don't date koreans, they're all fake, not japanese, they all cheat, not chinese theyre gold diggers, only date Vietnamese, etc"
Like really? Most of the time you can't really tell,like if you start dating an asian girl, and its going good and all, and she tells you shes chinese or something what are you going to do? Turn around and walk away? Men are fucking idiots I swear, especially yellow fevers and just racial fetishists in general, its like its a fucking hobby for them to fetishize them
Not sure if this is bait or not, saying features of a certain race aren't attractive is definitely not nice but i have to second that i probably don't know a single girl who'd date a black guy, because they are not attractive to us.
Since i'm a weeb, i'd consider an asian as well, but usually most prefer their own race.
Guys might not be choosers, but that's only when it's about sex, not a real relationship.
> saying features of a certain race aren't attractive
I really don't understand what's wrong with that? If a white guy said he found asian or black women more attractive, if any person of any color stated their preferences related to race, why should it be a problem? It's like stating that you prefer gingers, or brunettes or tall or short people or insert anything else.
What I wanted to say is that statistically women, in general, are less likely to date outside of their race as opposed to men.>>221425
The conversation didn't go like that, we just said that we don't find black men on average attractive, we were looking at some photos in a mag and then the discussion went in that direction. I didn't use the word negroid, though the term is still correct, right? I don't think black people or other people of color are lesser, or if I implied that, I really didn't mean to. Just because you don't feel attraction to a group of people doesn't mean you don't value them as human beings.
>>221418>I'm speaking from personal experience
Emphasis on personal
experience. I don't interact with too many white girls irl, but I've known one that has been a friend of the family for years. She used to have jungle fever like a motherfucker, and now has an adorable mixed kid with a guy who is half black and half latino.
Jesus Christ, what is wrong with you? There are certain features that black people have and those features might not be attractive to some.
> we don't go around blindly hating on people
Where did I state that I hate black people? Is this some sick joke? Or are you just mentally challenged?>>221433
Well, I'm really sorry it came out that way. I'm done with this conversation anyway. You can't even express your personal preference or experience without being attacked.
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>>221423>would often bash white women when talking to her but not realize she is in fact white
Jesus, how long will it be before men start forcing us to give our DNA tests? Or do they just feel better hearing that the said person they're into/talking to is of a certain race they want them to be?
>>221429>If a white guy said he found asian or black women more attractive
well depends, he can be attracted to certain features but the thing about saying "___ race is more attractive because of said features" is that most of the time the features they DO find attractive are also prevalent greatly in other races as well
say, a guy says he likes asian women more because they're smaller and he likes straight dark hair, small noses and yellow undertoned skin, he can be attracted to those things, but the problem with saying one race is better because of those things is that they fail to realize toooonnnns and I mean tons of women of other races have those features as well and considering the fact there are millions of asian women who don't have those features as well, that's the problem
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I really wonder when enough is going to be enough. It seems like every single day we're inundated with more and more blatant misogyny. It seems like the one thing that all men can bond over, regardless of race, economic status, upbringing, is their hatred of women.
Maybe I'm just extra depressed because I have strep throat and have spent all day in bed on Reddit, which I never normally do. Even when you go into a seemingly innocent, light hearted sub, someone will find some way to slip something in about how all women are whores, worthless, only good for their holes, and it will have like 200+ upvotes and nobody challenging those views. It's just the norm now. And it makes me want to kill myself. I mean I shouldn't care because I'll never meet any of these people, but it's more about what they represent. This is how most men, and even some women, feel. They hate us and think we're worthless. And it's funny to them. It's so much fun for men to sit around and talk about how inferior and dumb women are, and shit on us all day, and there's nothing we can do about it. This is just how it's going to be and it will never get better. Might even get worse, who knows. It can always get worse.
I just want to disappear. Or go back to a time before I knew how much men hated women, and I walked around truly believing that men saw me as an equal, as a human being, instead of just a hole. Now I walk around knowing that people see me as just a hole. A subhuman. Not deserving of life.
Sorry for being melodramatic. But I feel as if this is normal to be upset about constantly seeing yourself dehumanized and blamed for all the worlds problems. I mean if you have it constantly beaten into your skull that you are worth nothing and you can't change that, it only makes sense that eventually you start to feel low and hate yourself, right? I'm sure I'm not alone here. Idk.
TLDR; I look forward to death and shedding my female form, basically.
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man with a penis, go ahead and ban me
most men don't hate women, the people who earnestly believe that sort of thing are bitter towards women because of past rejections or other bad experiences with individual females
most people who upvote comments like that realize that it's a joke, or an exaggerated caricature of someone's real life frustrations with women
for instance, I have no issues whatsoever with black people, but I found this image funny and saved it(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
the thing is that there is a difference between just joking vs actually hating women, the thing is that most men nowadays actually hate fucking women, and we've seen more than enough proof that goes way past the whole "it's just a joke or exaggerated caricature" thing for people to make that claim
was elliot rodgers just joking? do men who rape women and abuse them are just joking? look at half the shit on the last few threads, they go way too far for anyone to claim that they were just joking and why would someone spend hours out of their day roleplaying as some mentally ill man who hates women? Are every single person upvoting the whole "you women should like being molested as children!" thing just joking and just laughing at the exaggeration ?
that image of an anime character saying "nigga we out here" of a black man hanging is nothing and not even comparable to the amount of time, effort, and research men will spend to prove how awful women are and how we deserve to be raped and how women should be molested etc(Don't respond to robots)
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>>221466>was elliot rodgers just joking?
no, but people like him are an extremely small minority of men
there are men out there who agree wholeheartedly with that sort of sentiment, but the majority of us have neutral or positive sentiments towards women as a whole
most of the "anti-woman" stuff you see on the internet is a result of a man being hurt by a manipulative or cruel woman, or rejected by many women, and venting his frustrations online, and other men sympathizing with him
>do men who rape women and abuse them are just joking
men who rape and abuse women don't do it because they hate women, they do it to feel power
there's a small minority of women who hate men as well (hence the existence of this website), but hardly anybody would claim that most women hate men like the people in this thread do
I agree that a lot of them are bitter because of past rejection or mommy issues, but it goes deeper than that. They can't deal with those rejections because they feel that they are owed pussy. A lot of these dudes have a shitload of issues, and just feed off of one another, driving them further and further into their woman-hate.
Completely disagree with the upvoting comments out of some sense of thinking it's a joke thing. You just don't understand how much these guys who gather in those places genuinely despise women and feed off of one anothers bitterness.
And like >>221466
said, that image is nothing compared to how obsessively these men will create content that trashes women.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
>>221466>relentlessly dox and harrass women over the internet for petty shit>it's just a joke calm down!!11!!
This is the most elaborate joke I've ever witnessed.>>221468
Bruh men set up their pathetic little "boys clubs" everywhere and bitch and whine when there are women who might want to participate in whatever hobby or interest they've centered it on. Women hardly even have female spaces to themselves, and every corner they get pushed into by men gets invaded out of spite. Men feel the need to gobble it all up for themselves.
I know that I should be more like you and just ignore it and live my life….but unfortunately I'm not that strong. Like I said, it just seems to be getting worse. I admit that I am weak and depressed regardless, but seeing this stuff just wears me down to the point where I can't handle it anymore. Now just one misogynistic comment is yet another sexist comment to add to the collection, instead of a one-off occurrence.
And I love how some men like to excuse misogyny with "oh they're just joking!11" when they clearly aren't joking. And we know that because we are at the receiving end of it. Men will never have to really examine misogyny and how prevalent it is because it doesn't hurt them, so why should they care? Why should they care if a bunch of "holes" are being abused and belittled?
I will never, ever be able to believe men who say that they don't hate women. I just can't anymore. I've seen too much.
Anyway….sorry for the tangent again. But anon, I really do hope that some day I can be more like you and TRULY not care. I really aspire to be like that. I want misogynistic shit to just roll off my back instead of play over and over again in my head until I want to hang myself. It is tiring to think this way…but it's even more tiring to know that nothing will ever change.
>while we're on the topic of men and "space" I'll go ahead and post this
I wish large groups of women were willing to distance themselves and uphold women-only spaces and communities for long periods of time.
I get fed up dealing with men in any form, these days I dread having to become acquainted with a man that isn't in my family or that I don't already know. Aside from the threat of physical violence and the constant trespassing over women's boundaries, media is oversaturated with the male point of view and the majority of things are made to appeal to men with their gross sexuality in mind.
It gets to a point where even venting about men's bullshit can get tiresome. They're impossible to get away from and I loathe that I'm even wasting thoughts on them. I read this and I thought it went into pretty good detail on some points about how men's presence in society is so fucking smothering.https://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2010/02/18/why-i-hate-men-part-2-guys-take-up-space/
I would love it if women everywhere decided to stop dealing with them and put all that energy into fostering a separate environment that's relaxing and positive for us. Men would probably follow us there to harrass us tho.
Men will invest anywhere women are just to remind us how much they hate us. If by some drastic change in the social climate, there's some segregation in society between the genders, you bet there will be men attempting everything just to invade it. If we all just fucking left for Mars or another planet entirely, there will be men trying to get there too. They cannot leave us alone. Just.. Whats wrong with them?>>221477>men: women are useless holes kill them all off and replace them>other men: kek>man, abuses and kills women>other men: kek
men will be the first to say how men are naturally the funnier gender but where the humor?
He's very attractive, fit and healthy. Nice face and hair, body. Something the fucking losers airing their insecurities in the comments do not possess.
Their comments say a lot about themselves; feeling threatened by an attractive guy's appearance. Will shit on his ethnicity as his attractive presence fills them with such envy and insecurity. By putting men of other ethnicities down (Who are on average more healthy with better genes), they attempt to safeguard their white male sexual market value so they can brainwash everyone into believing they are superior through their oppression of men of other ethnicities. They also take the women from the ethnic man through use of this oppression and illusion.
They know they are not superior, the comments clarify this. It is genuine fear. Fear that this man is sexually desirable to women than them.
I bet pic related guy makes a better, faithful husband with sense of duty and responsibility to his family. And he won't lose his hair to that ugly as fuck male patterned baldness when he's older kek
Good skin too. And his cock is harder than theirs when erect. That is why Asian women call it 'Asian steel.' It is well known Asian males have the hardest erections.
Whereas all this insecure faggot in the comments can only present a flaccid specimen of a supposed "erect" cock.
Through my experience, I must tell you this.
All my relationships had been with white males, and I had quite a few. I had spent many years with some of them, trying to make it work. But it wasn't working.
After failed relationship number four (and these were just the relationships, not including the many dates and "romantic" exploits), after awhile I finally came across a guy who I really clicked with. We just seemed to fit. Not only was he highly intelligent, handsome, easy going, caring, thoughtful, funny, fit with gorgeous hair, smile and skin, he happened to be Japanese also.
This was my first romantic involvement with a guy outside my race.
Soon we became further entangled in our romance together and have established a healthy relationship which has a positive future together. Everything is easy and relaxed with him. Unlike all my experiences with white guys which were an absolute nightmare (I swear they were fucked up mentally with mommy issues), this has been my first best, most successful relationship
And I'll never look back.
Now I'm beginning to think there's something inherently wrong with the western man. I think theyre more prone to mental disorders. Thoughts on this?
Imagine if a man wrote this about women>I used to date a lot of white women but it wasn't working>Then I met a Japanese woman and we just clicked and everything is perfect>I think maybe western women are more prone to mental disorders. Thoughts?
See how weird and dumb it is now?
they know they're inferior, why do you think so many white guys are obsessed with the idea of being cucked by daquan? but it's not daquan they should be worried about
I only ever dated two men throughout my life one was white, cheated, blamed me for his cheating, lied to me a lot, bragged to me about how he fucked his ex, then talked shit about me to all his friends after dumping me because my boobs were apparently too small
the guy I'm with is asian, has respect for me, knows that no means no and doesn't throw a bitchfit if I say no, loves my body, is loyal to me, likes being with me and appreciates things I do for him, is honest to me and is extremely loyal, like so loyal to the point where at the beginning of the relationship he asked me if it was okay for him to hug female friends, not that I expect that from all men but I thought it was sweet he respected me enough to ask that. He's beyond handsome, tall, fit, and is amazing in bed and has perfect hygiene
basically white men: not even once
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Men want women they don't find attractive dead and they don't see them as human.
Men literally do write that. All the time. There's 1000s of videos about how western women are a lost cause and Asian women are better in every way.
Is it weird and dumb when they do it as well? Do you call them out when you see them doing it?
dumb? maybe, but after all the shit white men have been doing to women with the MGTOW and incel stuff, rape and molestation, pedophilia, incest, bashing women to hell and back and having to bring feminism into everything just to scream and cry about it, then whining about western women, all the while they're greasey out of shape disgusting cheating idiots
women at least deserve to be able to gloat about how the men who are more likely not to do this are better than the men who are more likely to do it, given I'm sure there's some good white men somewhere, and we actually admit that unlike greg for 4chan who insists all women that aren't of a race he likes are bad
also praising the men who actually are decent and bashing the ones who aren't isn't "creepy"
it would be creepy if we post their nudes, go out of our way to let white men know we're leaving them for asians and they're just jealous, if we sex trafficked asian men went to their countries and brought them then screamed jealous manlet at anyone who thought it was wrong, abused the men and said they were better for the sole reason that they didn't leave when we abused them, we're praising them because they treat us better and actually fucking take care of themselves and deserve all the respect, praise, and submission we're giving them, gregs from 4chin however, don't
>>221508>Men literally do write that. All the time
That was the point.>Is it weird and dumb when they do it as well?
Of course? How is this a question?>Do you call them out when you see them doing it?
Yes, but often those men are so far up their own yellow fever ass they just block out anything anyone says to them that isn't about Asian women.
Hmm I'm not fighting fire with fire? That would imply I'm using this guy for ulterior motives and not for genuine reasons out of love and attraction which is not true at all. I simply vocalised my findings which I have experienced through my personal relationships and instances. Although it is bias to my life, as an individual, it can be seen other anons have experienced the same contrasting behaviours.
Hardly retarded. Simply an observation and pattern noted.
I don't care for these losers that my relationship is in any way, a method to "get back" at them. They are negligible to me.
exactly, we went for asian men because they actually take care of themselves and have some respect
they go for asian women because of kpop and plastic jav stars and because they want to abuse them and treat them like shit, we actually love our men, they don't, they just love what they say about them
I'm not sure if you even recognize it or not but I could flip this entire post from the perspective of a deluded yellow fever man. Here, I'll give you some examples>maybe, but after all the shit white men have been doing to women with the MGTOW and incel stuff, rape and molestation, pedophilia, incest, bashing women to hell and back and having to bring feminism into everything just to scream and cry about it, then whining about western women, all the while they're greasey out of shape disgusting cheating idiots
After all the shit white women have been doing to men with the rad-feminism and false rape claims and virgin shaming bashing men to hell and back and having to bring up "gender inequality" into everything just to scream and cry about it, then whining about western men, all the while they're greasy out of shape hambeasts
See? I can keep going>women at least deserve to be able to gloat about how the men who are more likely not to do this are better than the men who are more likely to do it, given I'm sure there's some good white men somewhere, and we actually admit that unlike greg for 4chan who insists all women that aren't of a race he likes are bad
Men at least deserve to be able to gloat about how the women who are more likely not to do this are better than the women who are more likely to do it, given I'm sure there's some good white women somewhere, and we actually admit that unlike Stacy for tumblr who insists all white men are bad>also praising the men who actually are decent and bashing the ones who aren't isn't "creepy"
Also praising the women who actually are decent and bashing the ones who aren't isn't "creepy"
I'm not making these comparisons because I want to excuse men for that behavior or think they're right for feeling that way. I'm making these comparisons because I think both men and women who think like that are fucking mentally ill and need some kinda help. A little bit of consistency is all I'm asking for.
I get that, but that's not the same as being "anti-trans", or is it? Or did the user above mean anti-trans only in the context of who gets to post in this board?
>>221515>After all the shit white women have been doing to men with the rad-feminism and false rape claims and virgin shaming bashing men to hell and back and having to bring up "gender inequality" into everything just to scream and cry about it, then whining about western men, all the while they're greasy out of shape hambeasts
one is true, one isn't, the men who act as if women are ruining their life with feminism when most women nowadays aren't even feminist then act as if the tiny amount of rape accusations that happened have anything to do with anything (ironically a lot of the faux rape accusations happen in east asia as well as some of the faux rape accusations here came from asian women before) and virgin shaming is a meme, men shame other men then point the finger at women, also none of us are "greasy hambeats", we have fitness and diet threads, not to mention a lot of women that go here are thin, hygenic and in good shape, including myself
>Men at least deserve to be able to gloat about how the women who are more likely not to do this are better than the women who are more likely to do it, given I'm sure there's some good white women somewhere, and we actually admit that unlike Stacy for tumblr who insists all white men are bad
that's the thing, maybe there's stacy from tumblr who yells at white men, but that's not nearly as prevalent as the insane amount of men on yt, reddit, etc etc etc that yell at western women, and because that wasn't enough they come here to make sure we know they hate us despite the fact not all of us are western, and there's no pattern between asian women not doing what they don't like vs white women not doing what they don't like, in fact thailand has the highest cheating rate in the world, as well as women in japan who make business and give other women tips on cheating, not to mention the woman who cut off her boyfriends dick, she was from east asia, so they can say how western women do this this and that but asian women don't but it won't be true at all
>Also praising the women who actually are decent and bashing the ones who aren't isn't "creepy"
this is true though, they can bash batshit crazy SJWs from tumblr who look for the next thing to be mad about constantly and I'll cheer them on, they can bash random hoes on tinder and IG who just want to talk to them for a week pump and dump and leave and I'll agree with them, they can bash women who fuck anything that walks throughout their life and at last minute want to settle down and have kids and I'll agree, however, grouping these women with "western women" when in reality, it's probably not even more than 1 or 2% of western women who are doing this though, that's the thing, and it's not even something you see everywhere since most women nowadays are jumping on the ~submissive virginal qt housewife~ train or ~virgin bookworm nerdy grl~ train
the thing is you see these trends with men, with men pretty much committing most rapes, murders, molestations, fueling the loli industry and sexualizing children and teens, abusing women then calling it bdsm, bashing women to hell and back if they don't get what they want, cheating on women then having paranoia about girls cheating on them and going through their phone and shit and invading their privacy despite the fact men have higher cheating rates, that's the fucking problem you see
Please read the fucking thread. Please. Read some of the shit that men say, do, and think about women. And please stop comparing women 'whining about gender inequality' to men who talk about wanting women to be obsolete, reducing us to holes, and treating us like chattel. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but fucking please.
You aren't the first poster to come in here and say "hey i can flip things around and you sound just like MGTOW!1! you're mentally ill1!" But read the thread and see why we think these things. If you don't agree, just let us have this one space where we can talk about misogyny and how men treat us. Fucking PLEASE.
but one is true, one isn't, that's why our "yellow fever" (idk if it counts as yellow fever because I prefer south asian/middle eastern men, which, my boyfriend I talked about earlier, is) is justified and fueled by the truth, theirs is fueled by delusion
but one is true, one isn't, that's why our "yellow fever" (idk if it counts as yellow fever because I prefer south asian/middle eastern men, which, my boyfriend I talked about earlier, is) is justified and fueled by the truth, theirs is fueled by delusion
No the same does not apply as there is different behaviour, reasoning and attitude, motive behind the interracial relationship with women vs men.
Men involved in their interracial relationships particularly wmaf, have an unhealthy attitude to their involvement with the Asian woman. Firstly, they fetishise the woman, rather than seeing her as human to be treated with respect, they view her as property, an accessory, a possession.
What makes them more creepy is they will post publicly their festishing of their Asian partner through YouTube etc making retarded videos.
And it's always the undesirable loser white male of western society that travels to Japan, China sex to land himself an Asian woman. He wasn't wanted by women in his own country and the unfortunate Asian women that fall victim to him have no awareness of the western standard that qualifies a white male as legitimately attractive since they are not exposed to white men so much to have a good selection anyway.
AMWW however, often does not revolve around fetish, or is it constructed so that it can allow the white woman to outlive creepy fantasies that your typical white male in WMAF harbour. It's usually for genuine, legit reasons and is taken seriously with respect and care reciprocated.
I guess you wouldn't understand because this is not something you have expereienced yourself and for you to formulate a legit opinion on the matter, knowing what you're talking about, you would need to experience it for yourself and reflect upon that.
Thanks for calling me and >>221503 >>221514
"fucking mentally ill" though kek on a subject you are not even well versed in.
>>221523>but one is true, one isn't, that's why our "yellow fever" is justified and fueled by the truth
And that's exactly what a man would say. OF COURSE your own view feels like the truth to yourself. If it didn't feel like the truth, you probably wouldn't feel that way. Do you see what I'm trying to say here? I just really don't like this concept of saying the exact shit that men say but then go and turn it around and say "Well it's different because actually I am correct in feeling this way because western men really are shit"…because that's exactly what a man would say about western women. I guess there's no way to really come to an agreement in this case because you're experiences are your own and if you think that all western men are shit but eastern men aren't then whatever I'm wasting my time because I for one do not think all western men are shit and I think it's creepy and wrong to put one ethnicity of men on a silver platter and demonize the rest.>>221525
I implore you to reread my posts and really think about what I'm trying to say here. I'm going to try and put this simply as possible: I do not agree with men who put down women, I do not agree with men who fetishize asian women. I also do not agree with women using the same shit mentality men use towards western women against western men. If you cannot understand this basic ass concept, just turn the computer off and read a book.
I love how whenever men have complaints and generalizations of women they’re considered totally valid and they are allowed multiple spaces online and off where they can bitch and fantasize about hurting and punishing women.
But if women have complaints about men? Such as the way men view and treat us? SHUT IT DOWN. we must be mentally ill! How dare we question the pure angelic men? How dare we not worship those that rape, abuse, and dehumanize is?
Sure, maybe I am mentally ill. But I didn’t start out that way. It’s taken years of “harmless” misogynistic comments and attitudes, belittlement, abuse, and dehumanization for me to get to the point where I just can’t take it anymore and need a place to vent about it. I mean fuck. With how society thinks that women are worthless whores I’m surprised I have just ended it all already. I mean what’s the point? All we have to offer are our holes, and there’s plenty of those, what’s a few less?
The defender of shitty men has logged on.
I’m sure they appreciate your contributions and consider you “one of the good ones.”
You've just set a task to carry out; Give as harsh criticism men give women, on mens' posts throughout /r/rateme Kek
Post screen caps of the reactions here. This thread needs some good kek at the expense of men.
If you don't agree with it, maybe this isn't the thread for you and you can stop derailing it calling people mentally ill for being fed up and whining that women aren't being fair to men here.
Why don't you head on over to mgtow or /pol/ and tell them how inconsistent their ideology is and they're wrong for shitting on women all the time? However something tells me that doesn't bother you that much.
true, I don't think men willing to be rated by reddit would have a fragile ego though unless they're just fucking idiots
but yeah, I get what you mean, I don't like making perfectly fine men feel like shit about themselves, men however will bash and hurt innocent women and make them feel ugly even if they're above average looking, and most women here most likely never bashed mens looks in their life unless they were morbidly obese
>>221542>If you don't agree with it, maybe this isn't the thread for you
It isn't, but I don't have a problem with anyone hating all men. I completely understand (or at least, I think I do) why people ITT feel that way, hence why I'm arguing about logical consistency not about the actual beliefs themselves.>can stop derailing it
Nothing I have said has derailed the thread. It has all been on topic discussion.>it calling people mentally ill
I have not called a single person ITT mentally ill and I'm completely against trivializing mental illness.>whining that women aren't being fair to men here.
I haven't.>Why don't you head on over to mgtow or /pol/ and tell them how inconsistent their ideology is and they're wrong for shitting on women all the time?
I do. Not at reddit or /pol/ because I can't tolerate both of those shitholes but I definitely do call out men on their shit. You don't see that because there's no men posting right now. You're really assuming a lot about me with very, very little info. I'm not sure why you're so upset at me when I have not insulted you or done anything like that.
Feminism is being shat on by extremist groups such as mgtow led by losers because it affords a woman freedom to choose her mate rather than being forced into a marriage or relations with the undesirables of society out of desperation, for social mobility (ugly guy and a total cunt but rich and family forcing the woman to marry him) or simply to just survive instead of living.
Feminism affords women to live.
Not just survive.
And women are picking the men who are a good investment to mix their genes with to produce good offspring and outbreed the neckbeards that reside in mgtow, thus leading us closer to a civilised society.
was you, no?>I think both men and women who think like that are fucking mentally ill and need some kinda help. A little bit of consistency is all I'm asking for.>mentally ill
If it wasn't, then I apologize and retract what I'm saying here. But both posts have the same grievance, and it seems like it's one poster. You.
I haven't insulted anyone, derailed the thread or anything like that and yet you assume I'm a robot simply because I called out the fact that thinking western men are "more prone to mental illness" is similar to what creepy MGTOWs say about western women. You don't even know my gender. You only assume it because I have a different opinion.>>221549>This was was you, no?
Actually it was, I'm not going to lie. I don't remember typing that but it was me and it was wrong to type and for someone who complains about consistency yet did trivialize mental illness even though I'm against that 100% that was not okay of me and I can admit that. I do apologize for that and can take the L on that one. I don't think people who think like that are "mentally ill". My partner had mild psychosis so I know what real mental illness is like and it's not that and it wasn't right to use that terminology. However, I still do stand by the belief that people who fetishize Asians while hating the opposite gender of their own race do have some kind of emotional baggage of some sort. And for the record, I don't think anyone here is mentally ill for distrusting men. I can empathize very much with that belief.
There are many facets to mental illness. “Mild” psychosis is just one.
I’m not any of the anons you’ve replied to, but I want to add my input. You’re here for a “logical” debate, but you’re missing the point of this thread. We are women who have been scorned by men, physically or emotionally abused, had our lives or wellbeing threatened/ruined by men. We live in a society where by law, we have equal rights, yet women aren’t taken seriously. We have to live in fear of being kidnapped for sex trafficking, being raped/assaulted by strangers (or friends or family members), or being mugged and robbed. You can say, >“oh men/boys have that risk too!!”
But not in the same way. Men can at least defend themselves. Men are strong, strong enough to hold women down, strong enough to manipulate women into sex, strong enough to intimidate women into silence. Men aren’t seen as easy targets, they aren’t seen as weak.
We come here to vent about our frustrations. Most of us actually don’t hate men, we just hate the power that men have over us. We hate the physical abuse and emotional abuse that men do to us. There is confusing logic to our reasoning to hate men (including men of certain races) because we have been affected by men on such a deep and personal level that we cannot separate our experiences from the argument. The difference between us and men talking about how much they hate women? We aren’t the ones with the power.
I do agree that I don’t understand the fetishization over Asian men. They’re just as likely to be sexist as any other man, no matter what culture or race they are.
that's a good thing though
everywhere else people would say "oh, you are beautiful, bla bla bla"
i want some actual criticism, thank you (whether I think that the criticism is valid is up to me though).
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there's some comments at least who are as disgusted as we are thankfully, but I also want to mention why are so many youtube videos like this one being raided by incels and MGTOWs who have to twist and turn everything to fit their agenda or just to bitch and circlejerk about how horrible women are?
Who is "us"? You and your friends? Because claiming that no white women are attracted to black men is pretty presumptuous.
That's the thing though, people from one race don't look the same, they don't even have the same skin tone in case of black people. You can find every feature in every race, the frequency is just different.>>221515
There is no equivalence. There can be no consistency because the field isn't level in the first place. A lot of things that are said about men are said as a reaction to constant disrespect and harassment irl and online, if someone says "white men are trash and mentally ill", it usually means "I was fucked over by numerous white men who treated me like shit therefore I avoid them", not "white women are ugly and won't fuck me, I just want a submissive asian gf reee".
No it's not. That is my post and I don't bother to involve myself with that reddit. Try harder next time when you're jumping to conclusions from your poorly formed assumptions. The paranoia is getting tedious, from anons falsely labelling each other robots, to this.
If you haven't got anything to say related to man hating via your experiences, observations etc then gtfo.
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This has been making the rounds on my facebook. What do you anons think?
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>>221644>I feel like most of the men who claim to have lost their vcard to a grown woman when they were teenagers are just BSing
also I've only seen a number of women who lust over boys maturing bodies and everytime they did they got called it, see the ig model who said "call me when you turn 18" or some shit like that to the strangers things kid and had a media uproar
IMO if we want to focus on female pedophiles we should focus on the disgusting boobnazis who are lusting after actual small children and babies and using breastfeeding as a shield, but most people who talk about female pedophilia won't even bring it up
ugh yes let's talk about these freaks, this is a massive nope for me.
i wonder if people like this are also into lactating/breastfeeding fetish
Tell that to my single mom who molested her daughter, these assholes are out there.
My mom was politically active af too, see also lauded by feminists: Bradley, Marion Zimmer. I'm sorry but I see a connection. If people are telling you how good they are, then they aren't. I'm out.
And both kinda, its one thing to push their agenda but I'm mostly talking about the obvious pedophiles, boobnazi general is still on /snow/
I hate admitting it but yeah
You'd think MGTOWs will talk about this since they always look for something to hate women for but most men are enabling them, its ironic that we're the ones to speak up against these disgusting women meanwhile MGTOWs are too worried about calling all women gold diggers
This. Of course we need to address pedophilia in all forms, but lets not pretend like whenever there is a crime that is perpetuated by men the majority of the time, people bring up that women also commit this crime in order to direct attention away from the fact that it's MOSTLY men. They can't accept the fact that maybe there is something wrong with a LOT of men, more than we would like to admit, and they aren't all perfect angels.
Yes, women molest. Women rape. There are women pedophiles. Yes, we need to be open and honest about that fact. If people deny that, then they are willfully insane or blind. But they only bring these things up when people are discussing men that rape, assault, and molest. A news story about a woman opening up about her rape? A news story about how a lot of men in Hollywood abuse their positions of power and have abused and harrassed women for decades? "Oh well women rape too!!11" Yes, we know. Nobody said they didn't. But that's not what the discussion was about at that time. They only bring it up to direct attention away from the problems that women face and make it about men.
But everyone talks about it. Almost everytime there is a story about rape, people bring up that women rape. Who isn't talking about it?
And who is "y'all" in this instance?
Also this is the fucking man hate thread. For the last time. This isn't a woman hate thread. Why would we discuss that here?
We get it, women and bad and wrong and even if they do the same exact shit that men do, it's worse when women do it. For reasons.
>>221644>"Bro, I banged this chick when I was 16 and she was like 20!!">Conclusion: Women are pedophiles too :(
Granted, the fact that men are basically considered sex-drones who can't control their urges makes it harder for men to come out about sexual assault so some of those may just be trying to convince themselves that they totally smashed and it was great, but I don't know who this chick hangs out with because I'd still be poor.>>221716
Everyone knows that women rape. There are also female serial killers and women who abuse their partner. Doesn't mean that the majority aren't men or there isn't a drastically higher risk of being molested by your uncle than your aunt. I've legitimately never seen a feminist defend a female pedophile either.
Most men don't see it as rape when an older woman fucks some teenage boy. Just look at male comments when a story comes out about some teacher banging her student.
>was she hot?>dude, he smashed that pussy, rad!
It's all backslapping and talking about how alpha the boy is.
If you want to talk about how women "be" pedophiles, then you need to talk about the women who sexually abuse girls too. But I guess that'd get in the way of her "wut about duh menz" spiel.
>>221728>Are you trying to claim teen sex is normal or acceptable here?
not that anon but I can agree to an extent, if we spend too much time worrying about 17 yr olds who fuck 21 yr olds, it's the type of stuff why people label us as "pedo witchhunters"
teen sex IS normal, no not 13, 14 or 15 yr olds, but most people lose their vcard as teenagers, 16, 17 and 18, you may not agree with it but IMO it's nothing worth worrying about as long as if they aren't fucking their teacher or old fucks to get money, not to mention age of consent ranges around 16-18
I'm more worried about almost 30 yr olds who hit up 12-14 yr olds on the internet, I'm worried about the creeps that follow preteen girls around the mall, I'm more worried about disgusting fucks looking for kiddos to touch at mcdonalds, I'm more worried about people who go to school for years to become pediatricians and teachers just so they can touch kids, not 17 yr olds who want to fuck 21 yr olds and 21 yr olds fuck them and they do so and there's no problem
This is just personal anecdotal stuff, but my grandmother sexually abused her children, two girls and one boy. My mom got the worst of it, and wound up with PTSD and all sorts of stuff as a result. So did her brother and sister.
Thankfully, my grandmother got breast cancer that went into bone cancer and caused her to rot from the inside out before dying. Bitch deserved it.
sage for blogpost
Lena Dunham isn't even liked by feminists anymore though tbh, I never see anyone praising her.
I get what people are saying women can definitely be paedophiles/rapists and there have been cases of that, nobody is denying that. However, the problem is every time women talk about their experiences people say "EXCUSE YOU WHAT ABOUT MEN? MEN CAN GET RAPED TOO" yes we all know that and nobody is denying that but that's not what the conversation is about. Say women who had survived breast cancer were talking about their experiences with breast cancer would people pop up to say "EXCUSE ME, MEN GET CANCER TOO" I doubt it, it's just rude to try to hijack someone else's discussion about their experience to make it about you.
Why don't men make their own hashtags etc about male rape? There's plenty of men popular and powerful enough to do it. Oh yes, because the only time they bring up male rape is to try shut women up.
I don't know any feminists who still support Lena Dunham after all her shit, I think everyone hates her at this point. But yeah, she's trash.>>221734
MRA's and co only talk about male rape in a reactionary way, they don't actually give a shit about male rape victims. It's 100% about derailing the conversation.
Not to mention that a good portion of male victims are also raped by men so uh. Shaky argument.
Another great MRA argument is "40% of men are domestic abuse victims!" um so still more women are domestic abuse victims…..?
Not that DV don't matter if they're male and they shouldn't be taken seriously, but they're trying to use it to one up women….while it proves it's still more women who are victims of DV.
Clients who present as victims of maternal molestation are in bad shape, comparatively, and therapy sessions aren't pretty.
t. social worker
Yes, but it needs its own separate
discussion. Not as a vehicle to redirect attention away from male perpetrators.
Make a woman-hate thread then. I'm sure it will have plenty of traffic because the majority of society agrees, but this is not the thread for that.
The fact that you decided to put this in the man-hate thread is funny actually, and it really reveals your motives. No matter how you twist it, men are still the perpetrators of most violent crime and sexual crime. But it's still women who are pure evil, right?
>Make a woman-hate thread then. I'm sure it will have plenty of traffic because the majority of society agrees, but this is not the thread for that.
why make a woman hate thread when you can just go on most places on the internet? hell unless you live in a liberal city or the middle of nowhere you can just go outside and see the same results
I feel like the fact maternal molestation does more damage is due to attachment, with paternal, a lot of people are use to fathers walking out on them, beating the shit out of them, being inappropriate, abusing them and just molestation in general, where as with how little maternal molestation happens, the victim most likely get bombarded with "liar" or have their experience sexualized and the victim will find it hard to relate to others because of how little it happens
I was molested by a female, it was difficult for me to cope and it scared me a lot because of how easily she had access to me in vulnerable situations for her to do so because "you're both girls nothing will happen" and if it was public stuff she did people wiped it off as normal or laughed, it always made me paranoid to be around her and just other women in general in dressing rooms, lockers, pools, bathrooms, etc
Except that when women do it, people act like it's SO MUCH WORSE even though men do it on a larger scale and the crimes are the exact same. Why? Because society hates women and views everything we do as wrong and evil.
Everyone knows women can rape, molest, exc. But the ONLY time those things are brought up is when people point out a specific case or a few cases of men molesting, raping, exc and they can't STAND that people point out that men can do wrong. So they have to come correct the record and point out that actually women are worse and we should stop whining about the abuse we face and how men are largely the perpetrators. "Oh you got raped? Well men get raped too!" Like yeah no shit. Why don't you go make a new thread about it and stop derailing and minimizing what women face?
So yes, people do deny that men are just as bad. Constantly. >>221750>why make a woman hate thread
Because some of us are sick of people coming into the MAN HATING THREAD to shit on women just like everybody else does, so obviously we need one so everyone can have a specific place to talk about how evil and worthless women are. I mean fuck. It's no coincidence that they brought this to THIS thread. It was very intentional, to point the attention away from men and the shitty things they do and say "well women also do it and it's worse!!11! fuck women!!1"
They don't "like" any women. They hate women, but will take any one they can get, whether she meets the standards they claim to have or not.
They see women as holes. And a hole is a hole to them, doesn't matter if she's a loudmouth slut or not. They just want power over women because they think they deserve to have power over women just on the basis that they were born men, that's why they try to advocate for women to be submissive and traditional.
Oh I see what you're saying. Well I kind of have a theory about that, but it does generalize a little bit. Obviously it doesn't fit every single relationship or woman. But, in my opinion and in my experience, the loud and assertive women usually have a lot of confidence and therefore a fair amount of self worth, and they project that outwards. They believe they deserve 'better' and won't settle for someone who treats them like shit, so they never do. SOME submissive women take the submission a little bit too far, and don't allow themselves to develop confidence, self worth, or the backbone to stand up for themselves. Therefore they can occasionally end up with assholes who treat them like shit, because they don't believe they deserve better, and their personality is sort of meek, so men view them as easier to control and walk all over. Which is very sad.
Like I said, this is generalizing. I know a lot of "submissive" women who have tons of confidence and stand up for themselves when men treat them like trash. And I know a lot of loud mouth, promiscuous, and confident girls who aren't as confident as they try to seem and can also end up falling victim to a shitty, emotionally abusive relationship. But what I stated above is a trend I've noticed.
No, this may be the man hating thread but there is really no way to defend what she said even if you only quote her directly, she pretended that touching her kid sister was some sort of cute ~quirky~ thing.>>221751
Again, what is the point here? "Women can be sick too", yes and? No one denied it, the fact that men do it so much more is
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Yeah the sad truth is that it is men who usually don't give a shit about boys being molested. Women are the ones who get outraged about it while men call it hot or make jokes about it, they only bring it up when they want to use it as a defense against women.
I don’t believe this, because in my experience men do not like being called out on their shit. Smart men, dumb men, it doesn’t matter. Men don’t like assertive girls or girls who can form their own opinion because that means they can’t control that girl. Men want control, they want to be in charge, it doesn’t matter what their level of intelligence is.
Idk, maybe I am stupid, because I stayed with a guy who was emotionally abusive to me and ruined my self-worth and self-esteem. But he was a smart guy, so your logic still doesn’t add up from my experience.
I found this thread on a catfish epsiode. In the episode the guy is disabled and it implies he is dying, the girl tells him before meeting him she's not the girl in the pictures she was sending he says he doesn't care what she looks like. While Nev and Max look her up, they find a murderer with the same name and age as her - he still says he'd be willing to give her a chance as everyone is deserving of a second chance.
He meets her, it turns out she was abused by her mother, is crippling shy and insecure. She's fat and he decides he's not interested based on that alone, he was willing to go for a murderer as long as she was hot - but a fat girl who loves him, is willing to look after him? Fuck her! Also in the thread people say he messages underage girls, scams women etc and is a pos in general.
I get physical attraction is a thing, but he was ugly as sin himself but wanted some hot girl. It's women who have high standards tho and go for douchebags if they're good looking obviously.
People were making it sound like went into her sister's room and made her touch her, and that when she was 17 she shoved pebbles up her vagina. I read what it said and it turned out her sister always looked for comfort so kept sleeping in her big sister's room even when Lena wanted her to leave, and when she was 13 she "discovered herself", so when her sister went to sleep she would masterbate. Really, she should have gone to the bathroom or something. 7 year old Lena was curious after being told about vaginas, and decided to take a peak at her sister's, where she found pebbles that slipped down towards her sister's vulva. (I'm not gonna say she did it and not her sister, because I've know small children put things in their nappies. ) Child Psychologists have said this is the equivalent of touching a dog's tail from the POV of a child. I can understand that, but her mother should have used that as a teaching moment regarding keeping your hands to yourself and respecting other people's boundaries, which she seems like she doesn't because she outed her sister to her parents??? And, the distasteful "joke" describing how she wanted to get close to her sister like a child molester. I know that maybe her style of writing, but there are something's you just don't do.
She's fucking weird, has done and said some shitty things and seems to love making others uncomfortable, I don't think it was abuse, but I can understand why it's so contentious.
I'm pretty much with Roxane Gay on this one. http://roxanegay.tumblr.com/post/101801523290/on-lena-dunham-and-all-that
She did it 'til she was 17? Doesn't she have no awareness? Didnt she find that weird or uncomfortable and feel it more appropriate to use the bathroom??
Didnt know about the rapist thing.
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>>221797>fat albeit sweet woman who has a lot of kindness is second rate to a hot drug-abusing murderer
Sorry, but there's nothing human or moralistic about that. He's a gimp animal who's willing to bullshit about "living life to the fullest/muh personality/muh hurt" if it's a means to an end. He's the type of person to lie to get what he wants.
Apparently people have come forward with screenshots of him going after underage girls too.
Society PAYS for this scumbag to live.
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Is there ANYTHING that can exist without men being bitchy little cunts on it? are men just evil by nature?
>>221887>i know cats like men more than women
Wat. I've noticed the complete opposite throughout my life. All the cats I know are much closer to their female owners and don't really give a shit about the man in the house. In contrast, a lot of larger dog breeds that I've known seem to prefer men. Don't know why.
One thing I do know is that having a pet, regardless of type, IS a preferable alternative to having a misogynist boyfriend/husband/fuck buddy. Cat ladies get a lot of shit from guys like this, but honestly nothing relieves stress and restores your will to live more than just watching a cat live its life and not giving a fuck. They're great.
>women are equal to men
Gee, why would he shove that in there? It's almost like he knows people can easily tell that he doesn't believe that at all.
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whats wrong with men
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at this point, i can't tell whether or not this is a troll
>>221907>men who don't want women to eat don't date women
thank fucking god
but I wouldn't doubt it, I always thought it was ridiculous since the beginning of time women had to go out of their way to pretend like they don't do these things but now I know why, is there something in mens minds that make them unattracted to human beings? is that why they can't treat us like them?
I swear knowing men like the men in this thread exists makes me so damn thankful my boyfriend isn't like them, I wonder if women they're with even know how mentally ill they are
Thats it, I'm rejecting every guy I see
Working your fucking ass off spending thousands in the process to get a perfect body, when I finally blossom into a D cup even thats probably not good enough for a guy to appreciate the slightest, anytime a guy even flirts with me the slightest I'll send him the pictures from these threads of men being fucking disgusting, Im a lesbian now. At least women will appreciate me. I didnt save myself just for men to turn around and do this shit fuck that im done, tired of putting so much fucking time and effort for a perfect body, money and education, skills, hygiene, social skills, being chastised forever and for what? For this? No thanks, Don't enable these sick, disgusting men.
I've known guys that will talk about how disgusting women are because of their bodily functions… but then complain about girls being grossed out when a guy farts near them. Men think they should be entitled to be as disgusting around women as they please, but are horrified just by the knowledge that women also have bodily functions. Also note how he calls us "animals" instead of "humans"?
I'm curious how this user would respond to a woman saying the exact same thing about men.
>I wonder if women they're with even know how mentally ill they are
You'd be amazed/horrified by how many women suffer from extreme enough internalized misogyny to drink the kool aid
Literally two days into dating a guy he told me I should consider implants and that he was only dating me instead of my friend because she was a bit too crazy even if she had bigger tits.
He was extremely surprised when I dumped him, and went on to stalk me and send me essay long letters about how I should date him again and how I misunderstood.
Oh god, I'm so happy you dumped that loser. I have a lot of friends who have been heavily disrespected by guys they've gone on dates with in similar ways.
>told they needed to lose weight >told their other friend was the first choice, but she had a boyfriend already>quizzed on their knowledge of certain fandoms and told point blank it was because they're female and girls never genuinely like stuff>"Wow, you're not like other girls, you're really smart and interesting!"
And that's just some of the shit I've heard. The guys pretty much never get why they don't get called back either. One guys was like "guess next time I need to make sure the girl isn't a radical feminist before I waste my money on her". The girl he said that to didn't even identify as a feminist at the time and paid for her own food.
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Whenever men try to come in here and say that ~~men don't hate women everything they do is for women~~ just show them this. THIS is how men see women. Stop fucking denying it. STOP pretending like we are crazy for thinking this. This is the fucking truth, and men are telling it to us right here.
This was, at one point, stickied and upvoted on the menrights subreddit. One of the supposedly less misogynistic subreddits in the "manosphere." And by less misogynistic, I mean still fucking despise and can't hide their pure frothing hatred for women.
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>>223254>where work is looked down upon and something to get out of and good deeds are for suckers and all evil you do it not just punished but rewarded by society, the government and the legal system?
what is this guy even talking about? is he forgetting the internet applauds when men rape or kill a woman that isn't a perfect little fairy who is innocent all her life? seriously, I can't find one video on the news where a teenage or grown woman was raped and killed without men trying to justify it and claim she had it coming, and of course the all famous "hur dur if he was a woman then he could just say they raped her and walk away" or some shit like that despite the fact most of these little boys can't find one case of women actually getting away with rape or murder that isnt jodi or casey anthony, and what's even funnier is the fact men get away with rape daily, in fact most male rapists are never punished at all, if they are they will get anywhere from a few months to at most a few years, hell subway dude only got 1 yr for each child he raped but yep it's apparently women who get away with everything
>You know, like women today
… yeah, that's why women are more calmer, nurturing, and caring by nature, that's why when you see CSA support groups or just kind-hearted deeds in general it's mostly done by women, that's why churches are filled with women that's why mosts anti animal abuse people are in fact women, most social workers, autism coaches, etc, are women, it's always women who want to help people, it's always women who are kind hearted and want to make the world a better place after men destroyed it
men will rape children, women will help protect the children, help them with social skills and help them cope and protect themselves, just for men to turn around and say"B-BUT IT'S ACTUALLY YOU WOMYN THAT ARE EVIL!!!"
pic related, it's the people who run a anti child abuse charity
>>221907>my ideal woman is a woman who doesn’t eat or breathe or reminds me that they’re human/an animal
then? Get? A ? Doll???
Seriously. Sex dolls and gtfo. They’ll leave us well enough alone since they’ll have their dolls to entertain them and we won’t have to interact with men anymore and can lives our lives in peace. Win/Win.
Men already possess all of these traits more so than women. They just admitted that they're behavior can get far worse.
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>men have high standards
now I'm laffing
>inb4 NOOO IT'S THE INTERNEEEEET
IT'S AN ONLINE DATING SITE NOT REAL LIFE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Oh no is that the biggest problem you have to deal with? Women don't think you're pretty :( :( :(
That must be so hard, but I'm sure being seen as more competent, intelligent, and capable by society at large softens the blow a little bit, right? You'll fucking live.
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Behold the mistake of nature
>>223340>Show me a study about how men rate women like I did then it'll be legit
you're not understanding, dumbass, how do we know fat hideous men aren't just being shown to these women for them to rate just so men like you can scream "B-BUT WOMEN HAVE HIGH STANDARDS" men have already had to make up shit about women to trash them so it wouldn't be a surprise if they altered this too
> I have never seen men berating women for her looks around me but I see plenty of women making fun of short guys, bald guys etc.
sweetie the last three threads and the teen threads include women venting for having the everloving shit bashed out of them by men if they don't look like literal sex dolls, men even have the nerve to call rihannas tits saggy and tell her she has no ass
>see plenty of women making fun of short guys, bald guys etc.
of course you do that's why fuck hideous short bald men can make videos without a single person bashing him meanwhile a girl can't even show herself on the internet unless she looks exactly like a sex doll without being shit on to hell and back, you probably can't even give me a single example of this happening meanwhile women can write novels telling their experiences about how awfully they are treated by men, even if they're not ugly, they just have some flaws
This. Men aren’t taught to give as much of a fuck about their looks as women do, so of course women care more about looks. Men don’t want an unkempt slob who looks like they sit on their couch all day, and neither do women. The difference is, women internalize their shame, while men blame it on women
who care too much about how men look. Meanwhile, any time a man is in control of a female lead character design you can guarantee she’s gonna be skinny, pretty, and scantily clothed.
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I agree with this over all, but I feel like video games are more equal than other forms of media when it comes to objectifying both genders. Male video game leads are often incredibly attractive and wear clothing that really shows off their physique. There's more female protags this applies to, but it's a lot more even than like comic books for example. Women make up a lot more of video game customers than people realize and developers cater to us pretty heavily.
Pic very much related
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Potagonists? Sometimes, but look at literally any GTA protag or, like, God of war, Yakuza, or the male characters vs the females in Overwatch or MK, etc. No shade to kratos, all shade to junkrat: women don't get to be ugly in video games.
The objectification is very different too, females usually design more realistic and less ofensive chars (i.e… Alucard? Idk any other examples now) while men go for a Bayonetta or something.
They said 'supposedly' less misogynistic, because /r/mensrights loves to go on about how they aren't misogynists but then you scroll down a few comments and there's some dude saying shit like in that picture.
Everyone knows they are misogynists, but they love to act like they aren't and apparently don't see how saying "women are worthless subhuman filth" is misogynistic.
Swear to god I'm done even dealing with men. I'm done smiling and laughing trying to make them feel ~comfortable~ and trying not to hurt their feelings when they come up to me even though I'm not interested, I'm done laughing and gritting my teeth every time they say something misogynistic towards me and pretending it's a ~super funny~ joke when we both know it isn't, I'm done listening to them and genuinely trying to help them and give them advice, and I'm sure as fuck done tiptoeing around them trying not to bruise their extremely fragile ego. Done. Why should I give a fuck about them when they despise me and would hurt me and spit in my face the first chance they got?
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I agree, what do you think of elizabeth comstock from bioshock? I know they drew the typical pretty slim white girl and all but she's one of the only character I could find that are attractive but aren't in bikinis/scantily clad clothing and given attention drawn to their ass or tits, then again I understand because it fits the time period and she was bookers daughter so it would be weird to make her scantly clad, I like how they focus on her personality and storyline as well instead of just pretty much saying "here's a characters ass in a body suit"
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>Men don’t want an unkempt slob who looks like they sit on their couch all day,
>You have no clue what men want.
He says that as he posts a picture of an anime girl.
This is how an unkept slob woman looks in real life. It's a stock photo, but closest I could find on google. Is this attractive to men? Nope, most will say it's disgusting.
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I have once shown some of my male friends this story about muscle cafe in Japanhttps://kotaku.com/japans-macho-cafe-is-like-hooters-in-reverse-1704687152
I thought they would laugh and find it amusing but they were acting so uncomfortable with the idea of it.
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>men who come to this thread to blame women on how they look and act
A fit shop has opened in the nearest mall and all the guys that work there are so in shape. Tall, muscley, handsome and they all seem super nice, working and doing what they like since they know pretty much everything about all the foods and regimens, etc.
I wish there was a cafe like that in europe, strong, good-looking and tall men are such a pleasure to look at, I wouldn't mind paying for such thing. And during summer I go crazy when I see young guys with an Adonis belt.
>If women had the same sex drives as men, then civilization would have never advanced, nothing would have ever been invented or built by men, because they would have gotten sex for free without having to offer something in exchange to get it.
Why would women having same sex drive hinder men from inventing? Do you mean like since both sexes would have huge sex drive, they would do nothing but constantly fuck each other?
So women having lower sex drive and denying men from sex is a good thing in your opinion?
Also historically, women would stay at home and give birth to children because infant mortality was high, along with other factors such as wars. Birthing children was needed to sustain.
In modern times, when there is already 7 billion humans on this planet, high natal rates are not needed. Women don't need to birth children and more and more women are getting into scientific fields, doing just as good if not better.
>they can get it for free, or men PAY THEM money.
Isn't that men's fault? It's like that huge sex drive you all have is making you do irrational decisions and gets you fucked in the head. See how many men pay hundreds of dollars to a camgirl just so she flashes her tits on camera? That's really sad.
>Evolutionary psychology bullshit. This is how the Abrahamic God designed the sexual balance.
Seriously now, you can disagree with evolutionary psychology, but there is no point in bringing Abrahamic God into this.
>If men don't "succeed" in society, then they don't get any sex. Men have to offer something in exchange for sex, in the form of financial and social status.
>The primary competitive urge to invent and build was driven by men wanting sex.
>Still to this day, the main reason most men even compete against each other in capitalism, is because they wouldn't get access to females otherwise.
>Women having low sex drives, and withholding sex from men unless they're financially/socially successful, is a fundamental building block of civilization.
>Many men are not financially/socially successful enough to get sex. These are incels.
>They're obviously angry and bitter about it. They are forced to be alone because of their socioeconomic status. They can't even get a female to have sex with them, let alone start a family. They will die alone with no offspring unless they can increase their socioeconomic status to a level that females find acceptable.
>Combined with other factors, the pressure is too much for many men. They end up snapping, killing/raping other people or themselves, largely because female sexual access is too expensive, and they can't afford it in the current economy.
So, lets say your argument is correct- then the problem obviously lies in incels, not in women.
As you said:
>Women having low sex drives, and withholding sex from men unless they're financially/socially successful, is a fundamental building block of civilization.
So who women choose is an important factor in furthering our civilization, since they choose those who are successful enough, according to your theory.
Yet incels, instead of taking responsibility like an adult human beings to better themselves and become more successful to be chosen, decide to get emotional and force themselves upon those women or kill those who are successful out of spite? Shouldn't they either 1)Take responsibility and better themselves or 2)Accept their place instead of using violence to force unstable selves onto others.
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>"Men don't think like this. Men will never complain that they're being "objectified" by attractive male characters."
>Completely ignores the landslide of butthurt from triggered men that caused Square to change the sexy, revealing outfit for the male character in Mevius Final Fantasy
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Stop replying to the robot you idiots.>>223662
I like this character a lot but I kind of felt like her story in the game was just centered around the male protagonist, even though the devs refer to it as her story. It's a bunch of hot air. Also, I'm glad they eventually went with the disney princess type design in the final game because some of the early designs for her are… problematic
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Never played the game but I gotta say that JRPGs have a ton of amazing female characters that are just as strong as the male characters, rarely rely on males to have a complete character history and a development arc, have their own distinct personalities etc. Just look at Chrono Trigger
for example, Marle is strong-willed and can stand up for herself without being cold and cynical, Lucca is intelligent and upstanding without being a sexy sultry scientist or a ditzy cute nerd girl made for male approval. I hate how the discussion around JRPGs always revolve around the more sexualized characters when there are so many more well-written, strong female characters around.
Because apparently all of those things are women's fault, somehow. Anything men do is automatically seen as superior, anything women do is automatically seen as inferior. Just look at how men talk about women when they are successful in things like math and science. They say shit like "oh they must have lowered the standards for her!" despite there being no evidence to support that. Anything a woman does will never be good enough, they'll just do some mental gymnastics and find some way where she doesn't count and she didn't actually achieve anything and she's not worth anything.
Plus anything women do is held against them. And by "them" I mean all women. Take Donald Trump for instance. Just look at his Twitter - he is clearly overemotional and and behaves immaturely. Are people going to start saying that men are too hysterical to run countries now? Is anyone going to say "men are literally children and therefore shouldn't work outside the home", even though a lot of them act like it? No, they aren't. If a woman had been elected and she acted the same way, she would be used as evidence for how ALL women are unfit to run countries. Same thing in other fields. The director David O'Russell has had multiple outbursts and tantrums on set, but he still gets work and he's respected. He isn't seen as "emotional" or childish. A female director recently came out and said a producer pulled a significant amount of funding for her film, all because he said "women are too emotional" and therefore couldn't be relied upon. This director has no history of the kind of childish emotional fuckery that O'Russell is.
And that's just an example. But it is certainly a visible trend.
It would be nice for a man to actually admit this. Just once. Men, incels in particular, always hide behind "well it's about being desired! Prostitutes don't count because she isn't choosing to fuck me and that doesn't validate me!" Like, fuck off with that shit already. They have made it very clear that they hate women, view us as inferior, don't care about us - what we think, what we say. Why do they care about being "desired" by something they have no respect for? Why do you need to be validated by a creature you hate and view as lower than a fucking dog?
Like you hinted at, the only reason they won't actually go be happy with a sexdoll and shut the fuck up is because they can't hurt it. They can't abuse it. Other than those two reasons, a sexdoll fulfills are their requirements. It provides the only thing they view women as useful for. >>223715>And not all men are misogynistic, regardless what robots and farmers think this simply isn't true.
No offense anon, but how can you honestly expect women to still believe this? Evidence to the contrary is provided on a near hourly basis. Trust me, I would like to still believe this and still have a shred of hope. But come on.
Just watch men throw their little tantrums and get all petulant when they get rejected. Even violent or angry. And it's women who are too emotional?
For a while I've been wondering if every single criticism and thing that men hate about women is just them projecting. Because it seems like all of those things actually apply to men even more than women.
Everything men bitch about in regards to sexism against them is all either really trivial, shit they do to women, or the direct result of the logic they've used to oppress women.
lolwut are you fucking kidding me?
>WAHHH WOMEN GET UNFAIR PREFERENCE IN CUSTODY BATTLES
It's almost like judges think women will automatically be better caretakers for children. I wonder where they could have possibly gotten that idea? I mean, it's not like men have been using that logic to forcefully keep women in the home and making babies throughout all of history or anything…
A progressive part of the USA>>223727
Men are incredibly overemotional. They loooove using estrogen against women as "scientific evidence" we're inherently irrational, but completely ignore the effects of testosterone… which makes you fucking crazy. How anyone could deny men's hormones make them crazy is beyond what I'm capable of computing, but men do. I've actually had conversations with men who REFUSE TO BELIEVE TESTOSTERONE HAS ANY EMOTIONAL EFFECTS.
They also only see the bad things a girl does as representative of all women, never the good. They will look for literally anything they can use to justify their hatred of women, but dismiss anything positive. They also see things men also do just as much, if not more, as female things. Basically, anything bad is a female trait.
But when you bring up how men almost exclusively make up serial killers, mass shooters, and violent rapists… well, those are just sick sick people, not representative of men at all.
I remember I stumbled on a YouTube video of a podcast. They were talking about an article that was written on women’s strength. And I remember the conversation leading to how men are just superior at everything and the article is bullshit. So many guys are ready to jump and pounce on women for being mediocre and inferior at everything. They’re incapable of acknowledging positive attributes associated with women other than hold bearing. It’s like a struggle for them.
But one thing is true, like strength, so then, why are they so angry when women acknowledge this, are intimidated and want to stay away from them altogether? I’ve been thinking, who would want to be in a room with a man that has the potential to hurt and kill you?
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Men straight up disregard women they don't find attractive. At least women try to be nice about it.
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It is a fact that males are less hygienic than females and put less work into their appearances, plus their bone structures are generally unappealingi might be biased though, as a lesbian :^)
Men are uglier on average, whether men like it or not. They could be decent looking if they didnt treat themselves like shit, you can have a hideous face, assuming you dont have deformities, a good haircut, facial hair, some working out and a suit can do wonders but men scream oppression if you dare ask these things, yet we're supposed to stay young, small, pretty, curvy, healthy, dress and eat well and smell good, etc etc
Meanwhile us women are supposed to just suck it up and date them, spoil them, marry them, fuck them, etc etc and then men spread the lie "hur dur us uggos have good personalities" which is easily proven wrong since most of the guys running around screaming how they hate women, how all women are like this, calling men who women like soyboys, saying women should be like this, tearing women apart so even attractive womem are ugly now and having standards so damn high even attractive and good looking celebrities arent good enough then act as if we are insane for pointing this out and when you call them out and show proof all they do is scream cherry picking and not all men yet they do this shit themselves, its like "not all men, not me, but not all" then completely ignore the fact so many very attractive women are dating hideous men and constantly uplifting and spoiling them and talking about them in good deeds, if men even date average looking women you can guarantee it wont last because of how miserable they become even if the woman was perfect personality wise, hell like the boob collage in the first thread, men will mention how their gf is pretty and smart and sweet and slim and its still not enough for them all because she has "small" boobs, bothers them to the point of shitting on them behind her back meanwhile like many women with small breasts, have struggled with insecurity for years then when they find a man to expose them to something theyre very sensitive about in hopes they'd appreciate and love it even if they're no playboy bunny what do these men do? Talk shit behind their back. Bitch to the internet talk about how they might break up, etc etc, meanwhile women can happily date shitty douchebags who are fat and greasy and only complain anonymously when they are emotionally abused, and we've seen more than enough proof.
if that's the case then the chart is crappily made and structured, they should have used a bargraph or double line graph
also where is the "likability" part? vertical is male attractiveness, horizontal is female, there is no likability part
what are they trying to get from this as well? are females supposed to be shallow or are males supposed to be shallow?
okay, this study makes no sense to begin with, they assume they're liking the most attractive out of the attractive men, but how do they know that? do they ask the women? they give no examples of how they know these women only want top 20 percent of men, meanwhile if you ask around most women will tell you they prefer average or slightly above average menhttps://www.yourtango.com/20083740/women-prefer-average-menhttp://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a53645/women-dating-average-men/http://www.fhm.com/posts/beautiful-women-prefer-ordinary-looking-men-128921http://www.sheknows.com/love-and-sex/articles/1050575/survey-says-women-prefer-normal-looking-men-to-hottieshttps://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4632251/women-would-rather-date-an-average-looking-man-than-someone-whos-1010/
men won't mention this because like incels, they're always twisting and turning for any reason to be oppressed meanwhile average looking men are out there dating beautiful lovely women and men are out how screaming how women are shitty and judgemental yet they literally have privilege, most average looking women wouldn't even dare get a chance with an attractive man unless he had a fetish.
assuming this study is true and not bullshit, they're forgetting the fact so many women just swipe right to anything on tinder, which is another reason to believe it's bullshit, how many men have you seen say "oh I swipe right on everyone" ? right
now that that's aside, let's look into the reason this maybe so, are men just putting up shitty troll pics? are there just a bunch of fake profiles making women swipe left? are men putting in repealing bios? are is this area tinder got their study from filled with ugly men or lesbians?
now let's look what the weirdo who took the study said
"First, the sample size is small (only 27 females were interviewed). Second, all data is self reported. The females who responded to my questions could have lied about the percentage of guys they “like” in order to impress me (fake super hot Tinder me) or make themselves seem more selective. "
this isn't legit tinder shit, this is some faggot who made fake profiles and interviewed women, then accused them of lying about how many guys they like, but still used it in the study
again, how do WE know what he considers average? how do we know what he considers hot? exactly
"As I stated previously the average female “likes” 12% of men on Tinder. This doesn't mean though that most males will get “liked” back by 12% of all the women they “like” on Tinder. This would only be the case if “likes” were equally distributed."
this is what he said from a legit study, but then continued to turn around and scream "HUR DUR YOU WOMYN ARE FIGHTING OVER HOT MEN AND LEAVING OUT UGLY GUYS FUCK YOU WOMEN" because of his bullshit study that proves absolutely nothing
>>223925>if you apply bad characteristics to people you find unattractive it is literally horn effect
I never did, in fact I use to be against it, I just find that usually men who are obnoxious incel shitheads who nitpicks others looks are in fact ugly, incels themselves even admit they're ugly
it would be the horn effect if I said all ugly men are shitty, but I'm saying all shitty men are ugly
am I biased? sure, but there's no denying a lot of the men who enjoy shitting on women all the time are ugly>>223928
agreed, he literally didn't do shit but make a bunch of fake accounts based on something that is subjective, then ask girls how many guys they like and take it in as the truth but try to translate it to fit his narrative
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I should expand a little on this:
Women might be more inclined to play the field and give guys a chance who aren’t as well off/conventionally attractive IF having a lot of exes wasn’t so taboo and they wouldn’t jump to be called easy sluts by all the lonely, bitter guys they didn’t get a chance to try out.
Woo boy, I’ve seen some shitty bios on tinder for sure. Best is when they’re < 5 sentences of shit like >hit me up if you like to chill and vibe lol I’m into living my best life and making every day count
Like, gee, what girl isn’t wooed by that??
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>everything I'd want in a girl
True, I can guarantee if women had more of variety and liked more men then men would use the studies to run around and scream how women are cheap easy sluts, hell they're doing it right now
One second we're sluts with no morals, next second we're greedy bitches who's expectations for mwn are too high and we dont date those poor "average" men even though there's proof more women date them
least they’re honest >everything I want in a girl>just a fuck toy that I can do whatever I want to without consequences or objections
Wish more guys not only are open like this but will actually leave women alone forever after they get their dolls.
But do you think a majority of guys will follow through?
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>>224031>Whenever I see men talking about sex dolls it's always about how women feel about them, like they really want women to get angry and jealous when the vast majority of us don't give a fuck.
ikr. they are talking like we will even notice that they're not interested in us anymore. we're just happy to have less creeps around us, and we're happy that their inferior genes will die out. its just natural selection
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f-fuck where did you find that picture of the slightly fatter verrsion of me?
men are more obsessed with wanting women to be mad and jealous than they are with the actual thing
take mail order brides for example, most of the time it has nothing to do with the men liking the actual brides rather than them just screaming and crying about how women are going to be jealous roasties that they didn't get forced to marry some greaseball for money
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This is kind of random but I thought it was…interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought. Personally I find it infuriating. I can't even wrap my head around this line of thinking. If the liberation of certain demopraphics results in widespread hatred of those demographics, why? Does that say more about those demographics, or the demographic that is doing the hating?
And does that mean if we go back to subjugating and restricting the freedoms of women and racial minorities, everything will be just fine and dandy? I highly doubt that. I mean this whole thought process falls apart when you consider that black people in America for instance were despised and treated like shit (maybe even more so) prior to emancipation. The entire system of slavery has to be built off of racism - "these people are lesser/not my equals and so therefore they exist to serve me, and I'm doing nothing wrong by oppressing them." As for misogyny, well, I think that is ingrained in men. I really do. I think all men hate women, and have always hated women, and some can find ways to manage that hatred or hide it very well.
I mean what does this suggest about men, then? That they can only restrain their hatred if they have control over you, your choices are limited, and you are always kept below them? Why? The only acceptable societal model for them is one where they are on top and everyone else is at the bottom, but they need to repress others to keep them at the bottom. Again, why? And what does it say about them that they wish to stifle the freedoms of others to maintain their sense of superiority and control?
*I want to note that I'm not entirely positive if this specific tweet is a joke or not, but I have seen this exact sentiment expressed numerous times where it was completely serious. Also sorry if this makes little to no sense, I've had some wine.
I agree with you girl. They have extreme expectations for women, but many are nothing at all. I've had fat, short alcoholic slobs try to boss me around, and jesus fucking christ my ex-boyfriend.
I'd also recommend that everyone stay clear of French and Italian men. Yes many are charming and nice, but they have a certain view of women.
I wonder where these mythical men who view women as human beings that some farmers insist are real exist, then? Because some of you have said Eastern European, Arab, and now French and Italian men are misogynistic? And I know from living here my entire life that American men are raging misogynists….so I really wonder. It just seems like every culture of men hates women. Has anyone been to a country where they really felt that the men didn’t despise women?
But I’m just a non believer too so I admit I’m jaded. I’ve seen too much misogyny from too many men to ever buy that some of them magically don’t hate women. If there is some it’s like 1 in a million and that’s not enough to be significant.
I live in northern europe and it is not half bad here. Older generation is pretty sexist, but men around 20 are usually alright. They are at least not misogynistic public.
However we do have an influx of arab and muslim africans, and they make even the most woman hating man here seem like a feminist icon.
Yeah I figured if anyone had a decent experience with men they would be from northern Europe/Scandiland. I’ve always heard that Scandinavian countries measure highest when it comes to gender equality and positive attitudes in regards to it….and perhaps not so coincidentally they all routinely are at the top of the ‘happiest countries in the world’ lists. I know there are plenty of factors, but I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
America is a fucking hellhole crawling with misogynists honestly. I know women in other counties have it undeniably worse, but with America it’s just…disappointing because You would expect a developed country in the west to not be such a fucking hostile regressive mess.
>>224121>Has anyone been to a country where they really felt that the men didn’t despise women?
I've travelled many places in the world. So in my experience Arab (I lived in Egypt for a while) men are by far the scariest and most dangerous ones. I would not dare to date one ever.
Eastern Euro and even far Northern Euros are are pretty much like >>224089
Italian and French men are like the stereotype that we all hear. They're romantic and all that shit, but also extremely sexist and old fashioned.
Aussie men are pretty much the bogan stereotype.
So yeah you are right. To me it is a pick your own poison type of situation, if a woman decides to date a man.
In my experience men of all cultures treat women as inferior but in different ways.>>224123
In my experience, the qender equality in Scandinavia is a meme. However my only experience with Scandi men have been those from the arctic, so there might a cultural difference from those in the south.
Pretty depressing tbh. There really is no hope for women to ever be seen as equal human beings. I try not to care, but it still makes me sad. Can’t really explain why.
I don’t know if any other women can relate to this, but for me there’s this weird apathy you get when you realIze most of the world hates you for something you can’t control. Like there’s nothing you can do about it except wait to die so you are no longer a woman. In the meantime you just have to pretend it’s all fine and pretend it doesn’t bother you in order to stay sane.
Being a woman really is a curse. It feels like one big joke. I feel bad saying that because there’s so many women I love and admire. It’s nothing against them, it’s iust the whole experience of being a woman is one nonstop shitfest of the world reinforcing that you’re worthless and inferior over and over again in every medium. I don’t have dysphoria or anything, I just really hate that I had to be born a woman and I wish there was something I could do to erase myself. For some reason I started wearing oversized clothing and not wearing makeup to hide the things that are considered ~womanly~ has helped me feel a little better because I feel like people don’t register me as female anymore and they just kind of ignore me as some kind of unattractive blob, which is honestly preferable than being belittled and mocked.
found this and thought I'd share it. Its not against women. But I have a feeling that loser guys like this are the ones that sulks on 4chan about how girls rejects them and how anime girls are much better and hotter than roasties.
But yeah, girls don't want you. Its totally not because you're murderous psycopath and a social outcast that is extremely unattractive.
Also, reading some of the stuff that he wrote on 4chan gives me cancer.>To produce the wound, to keep the victim from defending. To give the mortal blow and wait for the victim to be dazed
this is written like some fedora tipping faggot
Where do you live? Western women don't have it perfect but that sounds like an extreme experience. Why would most of the world hate us if only half are men? Most women are not internalized misogynists and rpw shills. I understand it hurts to be judged, and I hate being belittled too, but you can't claim to have a sense of apathy but say you "wait to die" and dress androgynous not because you enjoy it but because you don't want to be ticked as a woman. I feel like you bought into redpill notions of what most women are ("basic bitches, boring, brainless") and you think your life loses value because of gender. Being a woman has its problems but it's not a condemnation to crippling disability. Every woman you see has her own life, preferences, interests, hobbies, likes, preferences etc. You think they are all waiting to die? If men they come across are shit, they chill and do their own thing too. Their lives have worth, yours does too, independent of anyone.
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>>224138>Most women are not internalized misogynists and rpw shills
White women sure as fuck are, have you even met any? Non-whites typically are too, black women for example have a different type of internalized misogyny but it's just as bad if not worse than whites.
I think its biological. Most men have sexual urges to dominate women, even those men that claim to be all for equality still have a fantasy of seeing women being forcefully raped or something.
I saw an interesting interview of female soldiers in north korea. they said that rape is so common, but nothing happenes to them because rape has no consequenses there. I believe that most men would rape if there were no consequenses.
Not just to sexually dominate, but in every aspect of life. They want women to be completely dependent on them then mock and complain at how infantilized women are. It’s telling when so much of today’s porn involves violence and rape scenarios. It’s what they want the most. I laugh whenever they say they want love or companionship, it’s such bullshit.
I wish there was an island or something women could escape to, away from men.
ikr. I hate when boyfriends or men in general make us shut up by putting their hands over your mouth, restrict us from going places by standing in your way, or drag us with them. Its not always extremely forceful (even though I have gotten bruises from shit like that), its just for them to show how they dont respect us and our wishes>>224158>I wish there was an island or something women could escape to
same girl, same
Accused =/= having the thing videoed and easily accessed to see what hillary did
Not to mention the fact you never know what is real and fake news anymore without any legit proof and just accusations
I know i know im gonna get a lot of hate back,but you don't have to have internalized misogyny to vote for trump
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>women can get fucked easily so there's no reason for them to ever be unhappy!
I'm tired of this argument
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but men actually do believe their standards are low. It's just the women who they think are in their league actually arent. That's why they cry so much about women in their league not wanting them…no it's just because the women you think are in your league arent. For example men look at pic related and think she's average. That's why men on r9k fawn over women like pic related because they believe she's an average girl next door who they have a chance with.
also let's not forget they expect WESTERN women to juggle getting money and being financially independent somehow but not having a job all the while being a perfect little submissive housewife who looks like a kpop star with missalice tits and kardashians ass naturally and never talk to any other man except for them and make dinner perfectly and have perfect skin and do housework and be a kissless virgin and having no history with anyone else besides them, if they don't do these things they scream and foam at the mouth about how western women are tarnished by feminism and how all men should leave them
and then they go by thailand sex traffick- I mean prostitutes and then buy russian or east asian brides and the only expectations they have for them is to be submissive, slimish, and have housework done and allow them to fuck them whenever, meanwhile they don't care much and are willing to provide for these women, not to mention the countries they buy them from have higher rates of cheating, then scream how their mail order brides are better but fail to realize the reason why they're better is because their expectation for western women is impossible to meet and constantly contradictory and they have little to no standards for their mail orders
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I'm in a discord server that's women only. Earlier this sketchy girl came in and asked everyone if it was a good idea to leave her current boyfriend who treats her well for his better looking friend. All the ladies tried to knock some sense into "her" but it turns out it was just a dude running some whack ass social experiment for another server. Men are a fucking meme holy shit.
You know I used to wonder where all these “free ___” is that men keep screaming about. How easy it is for women to do xyz and free shit everywhere but really, it’s their own whoreish projections into women. Men want to be gold diggers, the sluts and whores they hate so much and find rich women to marry and never do anything but play video games and make memes all day.
Seriously why don’t men, like incels, look into getting neutered. Their libido will decrease and then they can finally be able to concentrate on other things other than sex. No worries about rejection because they wouldn’t be interested in the first place. They’d finally stop and leave women alone. It’s a thought.
>>224250>Men want to be gold diggers, the sluts and whores they hate so much and find rich women to marry and never do anything but play video games and make memes all day.
You ever have an incel tell you shit like "damn I wish I could be a housewife, why would dumb feminists ever want to work? Women really fucked up, all they had to do was cook and clean and fuck and they would have been supported by men "
It is totally and truly projection. That's how THEY want to live, and they assume all women are like them. We aren't. Independence, especially of the financial kind, is a necessity. You won't fall into half of the life traps you would if you were depending on some bitch ass man to "support" you. You have choices, you have options.
exactly, when I was in HS the fattest shortest little bald guy that straight use to look like stewie from family guy was my biggest bully
he made fun of me for being flatchest at fucking 14 yrs old, made fun of my hair for not being straight, told me to "LOOK AT ANONS HAIR THAT HAIR IS STRAIGHT YOUR HAIR IS NOT STRAIGHT" the day I decided to wear my hair natural and not straighten it like I usually do, given I never talked about my hair so not sure why he would bring it up, when I would stretch in class he told me to stop because "I had nothing to show off', told me I couldn't put on chapstick because "it wasn't working with making me look prettier", tell me how I need to go get a tan, whiten my teeth, fix my gap, etc and he himself look like a big fat baby
etc etc, it's always the ugly men to, never the good looking ones, the few attractive guys there would tell me how good I looked without makeup, how they liked my hair and body frame, etc etc, why the fuck is it always the ugly ones
The Russian speaking anon here, Arabic men also have huge macho problems. They expect women to essentially be their second mom, and women have to be pure pure virgins in order to qualify for marriage. They are extremely bossy, and demand constantly to be listened to and followed. Some more "progressive" or city Arabs will pretend like they don't care about woman's past relationships, but will only wife virgins.
I stay clear of them, especially if they are in a group. When they are in a group, they feel emboldened to catcall or very creepily leer at a girl (happened to me multiple times in US). Nothing is more unsettling then multiple guys coming over to you and creepily making comments.
One thing that has been bothering me about men lately is their completely inability to take a joke. They will throw out sexist and misogynistic jokes all day, and if you even have the AUDACITY to not crack a smile they will start bitching that you're emotional and an uptight bitch who can't take a joke!!1! But if you turn the tables and make a joke at the expense of men? Wooo boy. https://twitter.com/anne_theriault/status/952227051083386881
As an example, look at the replies to this tweet. Keep scrolling. Look at all the butthurt men. And this isn't even that offensive of a joke to men. Do you think they complain about sexism when people make much worse jokes and generalizations of women? No, of course not. I've never seen a man complain about a gender-based/negatively sexist joke if it's directed at women. But as soon as it's directed at men they're ready to launch into some big lecture about how these negative stereotypes aren't limited to one gender how dare you you fucking sexist feminazis blah blah blah. I mean come the fuck on…in any given week most women probably have to hear some bullshit comment or joke shitting on women and most of us probably don't have the energy to truly care anymore because if you even try to explain why that comment is shitty, men get all defensive and accuse you of being an uptight cunt who just needs to get some dick. But here come the men to lecture us about sexist jokes directed at men and how they are bad and mean :( :( :(, and we are expected to listen to them and take it seriously after they mock women and encourage negative stereotypes of women? Nah. You've lost me.
Men really think, and have always thought, that they can abuse, humiliate, mistreat, and hate women, and after all of that, we should still care for them, comfort them, and appreciate any form of attention they so generously bestow upon us. The joke thing is a minor example of course, but it is telling. They expect us to grovel at their feet and worship them, and never dare call them out on their shit. They still expect us to defend them and treat them with perfect kindness and civility, despite them never returning the favor. If we give them a taste of their own medicine, we're bitches/sluts/whores. They see absolutely nothing wrong about that.
Reminded by the retarded robot in the vent thread, has anyone become increasingly defensive against males in order to keep them an arm's length away and not seem too polite to them? A lot of women have experienced the same thing, they were nice to a man and the man took that as an invitation to start hovering them and doing services expecting to be rewarded with a relationship and/or sex. It happened to me as well.
>Meet a guy through mutual friends, think he's fun, chat shit with him every now and then
>I was a broke student at that point, couldn't afford nice things, just the essentials, but tried saving to buy them myself
>The guy starts buying the things I was looking forward to as gifts without me ever asking him to
>The first one I thought was a sweet gesture and didn't think much of it, I like buying presents to my friends too
>Then he did it again.. and again, started getting uncomfortable, he seemed to think our casual friendship was way deeper than I did
>He also started being slimy and sexual and made vague remarks about wanting to fuck me
>Told him I'm not okay with these things, he flips, calls me a slut and other derogatory things and even mentioned how many gifts he got me
Where the hell do men even learn that women are some sort of vending machines where the more gifts and services you put in the more points you get?
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>man looks in my direction
>my bfs response when I tell him he's being paranoid for thinking he's looking at me
I understand him being irritated but I don't understand why they have to give such agressive responses
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It's all very frustrating and every bf I have ever had acts this way. Maybe it is just me.
>>224381>I've never even seen one case of a woman doing it)
Neither have I. Welcome to Earth, men have to pay for sex, and women get paid for sex.>>224376
I know women don't take responsibility for anything, but maybe it's women's fault that most men see you as whores?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
>>224402>maybe it's women's fault that most men see you as whores?
Not really. Men hate women regardless of what they do or how they act. Plenty of women don't act like "whores" and still are seen as whores by men. There is nothing we can do to make men hate us less except hate ourselves and give them everything they want at the expense of our ourselves. It's a fact of life. Men despise women. Men can't see women as individuals separate from other women because they barely register women as human. To them, if some women act a certain way, all women act that way.
Simple as that. Maybe men should stop spending money on women in order to get sex and then crying when they don't get what they want. Take responsibility for your own actions. Don't be an easily manipulated dumbass and you won't have that problem. It goes both ways. If all you want is sex, go to an actual prostitute, you are guaranteed to get what you pay for 99% of the time.
>>224414>If all you want is sex, go to an actual prostitute, you are guaranteed to get what you pay for 99% of the time.
This. Even if we take the "women are whores" thing as truth, just giving gifts and expecting it to work is retarded.
Say you have a merchant who only sells one kind of product. You wouldn't give him money out of the blue and expect him to give you the product despite no contract saying he has to. Or a servant - you wouldn't give a rando money and expect him to work on your household just because he's a servant and you gave him free something.
If you're giving someone free shit and hoping
your intentions are clear and hoping
they'll meet your expectations and give you what you want instead of walking away (which they're perfectly allowed to do since you had no agreement)… you're fucking dumb and deserve to be used and scammed. Even if you're a redpiller "AWALT uwu", that's some retarded shit. Go to a prostitute and make clear what you're giving and what you want in return you retarded shit.
If you give someone money then cry because they didn't give you anything in return, you deserve to be scammed. By everyone, not just women.
we have sex with them volunterrarly, they complain and scream and judge our bodies and shit on us if we aren't sex dolls, shit on us to their friends and on their internet (see the boob collage), call us whore
they trap us into sex trafficking, shit on us for doing what we're forced to do, or if women HAVE to do it in order to get money to survive they still judge us despite the fact women are willing to pretty much get raped and abused just so they can have enough money to not starve to death, they still call us whores and scream how we're useless
if we don't fuck them on command just because "hur dur i brought you a 1 dollar teddy bear now you have to put up with shit-tier sex that you won't even enjoy because I'm mentally ill and force you into sex and guilt trip you instead of letting it happen naturally for us to both enjoy", we're still whores, and bitches, some men even go as far as blaming all the crime, shootings, etc, done by men because us women didn't have sex with them when they wanted to, the same men will also demand pure virgins, like wtf do you want do you want sex on command or do you want women to be pure little virgins to never have sex with anyone else besides you