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No. 46070

What drugs have you done?
What drugs do you use regularly?

No. 46071

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Had 2 pot brownies about 3 hours ago. I'd love to try DMT, MDMA and mescaline. Really into psilocybin, too.
I'm getting more and more reclusive so it's really hard to get stuff.

No. 46072

Oh and I tried Salvia and will do it again when I feel ready. Was some experience but I don't regret it.

No. 46074

drugs fuck up your life. Trust me. I have been addicted for around 5 years.
If you dont believe me then you will regret getting into drugs

No. 46076

>What drugs have you done?

>What drugs do you use regularly?

I smoke weed every day. I get drunk on the weekends. When I go to live music I always try to have some sass and acid. I'm basically a hippie.

No. 46082



No. 46085

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I've tried E, weed, salvia, K-2 (spice), acid, and molly.

I vape marijuana 2-4 nights a week, mostly for sleep, inspiration, or when I'm playing MtG/video games.

I have issues with dissociating so I avoid anything like K, I may or may not try shrooms someday tho.

care to share your salvia experience? Mine was short as fuck and pretty anticlimactic. I have a friend who smoked salvia and felt that they turned into a spoon in a full bowl of cereal, lmao.

What are you addicted to?

I was just talking to someone yesterday who did tons of drugs in the 70's– he says mescaline is very much a spiritual hallucinogen.

No. 46089

I was addicted to anything i could get my hands on. Mainly the smokable incense , heroin and marijuana.
I still have an addiction. Its something i cant get rid of honestly. I always crave and want to get high. I miss the dopamine rush.
Give me one and ill want more

No. 46097

>What drugs have you done?

Weed, LSD, mushrooms, coke, benzos, opiates.

>What drugs do you use regularly?

Weed, xanax, and adderall. Coke, if I'm partying. I have prescriptions for xanax and adderall, though.

No. 46109

what havent i done? lol
never smoking meth tho

No. 46110

ive not done heroin, but man, it's so nice knowing other people have majorly fucked up with being addicted to incense. like, im petrified about my future. what if i get married and find a man to live for, and i end up dying because of the shit?

No. 46132

I'm not super into drugs. I've smoked weed/dabs, tried MDMA a few times but wasn't fond of it because I was on SSRIs at the time, fucked with DMT, shrooms, xanax, percs, oxy… I think that's it? Now all I really fuck with is weed/dabs and shrooms.

No. 46135

I'm not really into drugs much. These days weed makes me feel like shit and fucks with my anxiety too much.
Done opiates, coke, some random pharms., and dudeweedlmao.
But as far as what I consume regularly it's just nicotine and alcohol (lol).

No. 46155

Coke once (was expensive and decent coke is hard to come by in my area so fuck doing that again)
Mdma (powder) acid, 2cb, shrooms, Ecstasy in tablet form. That weirdly really fucked me up. Not exactly bad, but it was a strange night I would rather not repeat. Powder is good though. That's the only thing I take on the regular as I know where I stand with it.
Recently weed has been awful for me. Makes me very aware of all my failures in life.

No. 46171

I've never done anything super hard. I abuse prescription stimulants, unfortunately. The artificial happiness is all I have anymore. Other than that, have smoked weed many times and hated it. Had benzos, not big on them. I have stretches of binge drinking.

No. 46187

Note that taking MDMA frequently can cause permanent brain damage. It's recommended to wait at least 2-3 months before each use. http://www.rollsafe.org

No. 46193

I've done acid, MDMA, benzos (but I was drunk so I didn't feel anything), shrooms, coca leaves, and DMT.

I loved doing MDMA the last time I did it with my boyfriend. It was such an amazing experience! I think doing ecstacy is kind of wasted by doing it at the club.

Too bad I took way too much and woke up my ex boyfriend's mom by throwing up a lot.

No. 46215

I've done LSD a few times and I liked it, but I didn't have any hallucinations aside from a little bit of warping (rooms getting bigger and smaller and such). It was more of a euphoric/slightly drunk feeling I got from it. Was it actually LSD? Some person told me it was probably ecstasy for something. It was tabs. Maybe I just didn't take enough.

No. 46216

How did you get prescribed both a benzo and a upper at the same time? (Xanax and adderall)

No. 46217

Smoked weed once. Had one cone and I didn't feel anything at all, so I had a second cone about 45 minutes later and I was immediately flat on my ass, half-conscious, throwing up everywhere. I hadn't even had any alcohol at all so I have no idea why it went down like that, but it pretty well turned me off using drugs.

No. 46238

>What drugs have you done?
Weed, nitrous, benzos, DXM, cyclizine
>What drugs do you use regularly?
Nothing at all for the past two years. Not even alcohol or cigarettes. Guys, seriously. If you have ANY mental issues, stop everything right away. I only started recovering once I decided that I needed a constant clear state of mind.

No. 46259

Only pot and shrooms. I use shrooms, I wouldn't say regularly, but once in a blue moon.

No. 46328

I've used morphine a few times just to fall asleep and forget about shit. I wish I still had access to some.

No. 46332

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blue lotus+ wine+ weed[a tiny bit] is my go-to for an altered state of mind, more wine and lotus if I feel like being sociable or more weed and lotus if I feel like being introspective and artsy.

I also like salvia, but really I have to force myself to do it at high enough doses to dissolve my bodily sense of self

No. 46335

Where do u even get salvia

No. 46347

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seeds are legal everywhere if you have the patience to grow plants and water them and all that stuff. I personally like gardening and I dont like smoking stuff so having a live plant that I can take leaves off of to chew/suck is the best option for me.

You can also buy (smokable)dried leaf in most countries pretty cheap from online ethnobotanical distributors.

Concentrates(liqud) are a third option, I like these because you can take them sublubligualy and dont have to smoke, there are also solid concentrates which you can smoke or make a tincture with.
Concentrates however are illegal in a lot of places(especially synthesized salvinioum-alpha) so the deep-web probably is the safest choice for those.

No. 46565

Anyone tried meth? What's it like?

No. 46576

If you live in the US, some states still have it for sale in smoke shops, despite the questionable legality.

No. 46579

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No. 46580

might come back and share my salvia experience but not right now

No. 46628

yeah because mushrooms are SO ADDICTIVE right

No. 46691

I smoke weed (legally, even) erryday and love that magical opioid feel, but so far I've managed to stick to pills (usually oxy or dilaudid, though I can rarely get my hands on any). I know just about everyone swears that they'll never stick a needle in their arm, so I can only hope I never get to that point, but goddamn, I love the opioid high so much, I honestly don't know how low I'd stoop.

I wish I could enjoy alcohol, but I hate it. I hate my body so much and feel so trapped in it that I've spent a lot my life trying to escape it and/or destroy it in various ways, and I found that constantly being on cold medicine and slightly stoned keeps me removed enough that I can function. I'll readily admit that I take whatever I can get my hands on, booze aside, to self-medicate. I'm well aware that it's not "healthy," but my health is and always has been shit, and I figure there's little chance of me making it to old age anyway, so I've spent the last almost-decade since I turned 18 just doing whatever I can to in order to cope and hold on. I don't do it for fun, to be "social," to party, or whatever. I almost exclusively partake when I'm alone. I'm pretty pathetic and I know it.

I've long wanted to experience DMT especially, but salvia, LSD, mushrooms, ketamine, and 2C-B or something similar are also on my "bucket list." I've just been too lazy to try to procure the materials myself, and, as someone who's spent long periods of time being a shut-in and has pretty much dropped out of society, I don't have any hookups. I'd try cocaine or MDMA if someone offered me some. I'm a poorfag, though, so I prefer shit I can grow or make myself. And, living in a glorious haven where both medical and recreational marijuana are legal, that means I mostly stick to weed.

I'm embarrassed that I smoke as much as I do, but I guess I don't come off as a pothead (thank god), because everyone seems to assume I'm the type of person who would never consume marijuana, or any other drug, for that matter. The downside of that is that no one ever offers me anything because they just assume I'll say no.

No. 46701

It's easy and safe to get all those substances on darknet markets. You might pay a small premium compared to street price, but you can get pretty much anything.

No. 46721

What have I done: marijuana, ecstacy/M, LSD, 25i, shrooms, coke, crack.

What I do regularly: just weed. If it wasn't so impossible to find in my city, I would drop more acid. That was one of the most intense and eye opening experiences of my life, when I did it I felt almost elevated beyond my mind if that makes any sense. I miss it.

No. 47007

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>what's meth like?
pic related

honestly though, don't get into it. it's crazy addictive, cheap and easy to find, you'll feel alright for a short time then you'll come down like a motherfucker for the next few days and just want to die. it also turns people into violent criminals more than any other drug imo

No. 47037

I've had weed only at the moment, but I really want to try ecstasy. Any anon ever tried it and what were your experiences like?

No. 47072

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>mfw reading this thread

T-thanks Mom and Dad for discouraging me from drug use

No. 47091

MDMA is great if you can get the real thing! my suggestion is, don't waste it at the club. you should do it with your bf/gf or friends you really trust and want to get closer to.

No. 47092

i want to go to raves like yuka and get high as fuck so i start hallucinating shit
and im very serious

No. 47094

I've done pot few times and I had really terrible reactions to it. The first time I had way too much and I had a massive all-night panic attack. Every time I've tried since then has been similar.

So I really have no interest in trying mushrooms or lsd or whatever, since pot is a mild hallucinogen. Call me a pussy, whatever. It's just not for me, maybe I'm just not ready mentally.

Other than that, I've done and occasionally still do cocaine, which was alright but nothing to write home about. I've done mild opiates which I really liked.

That's about it other than legal stuff. I love alcohol too much. DXM is fun, DPH was the worst experience of my life though I did OD.

No. 47096

Same here with pot. I also had the same reaction (ridiculous paranoia/panic attacks) from Wellbutrin of all things once I upped the dose.

I'd like to try other drugs but I really don't think I could handle it if I ended up in a worse place than I do when smoking. At least I have alcohol.

No. 47149

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hey, >>46085 here, I had that same issue for years– gave me panic attacks, spins, shakes, felt like I was going insane. A lot of it was anxieties I had about myself, my "failures" as >>46155 noted, my relationships and life path, etc.

I'm older now, and have done a LOT of thinking and maturing, tl;dr decided to try it again. Lo and behold, it actually feels nice now. I still get nervous at times since it's illegal, but I can shake it off or just check outside to make myself feel safe.

If you're interested in trying again, I recommend trying to vape it rather than smoke or eat it, that way you're just getting the THC and it's not nearly as powerful. Different strains also have different effects– some will make you more peaceful, some more imaginative, some more energetic. Also, if you're not 100% comfortable with whom and where you are, you'll be more sensitive and it is more likely to become off-putting.

All in all, it's just like anything else you're putting into your body. If you do it, remember you chose to and you have control, just relax and ride it out.

No. 47150

Yeah, my wife wants to try it with me because she's also curious. I figured it's best to do it with someone you don't mind getting touchy/feeling with.

No. 47153

Vaping is much healthier, but not exactly more or less powerful.

Vaping will likely actually increase anxiety and paranoia compared to smoking, not reduce it. THC vaporizes at lower temperatures than CBD and other cannabinoids that counteract THC in many ways and contribute to the body high. THC is what gives you creative and weird ideas and causes anxiety. Vaporizers give you a higher ratio of THC because they're not as hot as actually lighting the weed with fire.

Also, the toxins in cannabis smoke are theorized to contribute to the "stoned" body high by lowering oxygen intake temporarily. For these reasons, vaping will give you more of a mins high, especially at lower temperatures.

It's way more cost efficient and likely way healthier though, so I still recommend it.

No. 47154

But as you mention, strain matters even more. You can smoke a pure sativa and a pure indica and feel like you just took different drugs, because the ratio of THC to everything else can vary widely. Generally, indicas have a lower proportion of THC and will be more relaxing and less likely to cause anxiety, but that's not always true. Some sativas have low THC and some indicas have high THC, in rare cases.

No. 47167

I feel, for me (smoking marijuana) the strain really doesn't matter. When I'm smoking, it all depends on who I'm going to be around during my high. I get really anxious on it. And I have tried a lot of different strains thinking I could feel the difference between them. The only difference I can feel is between indica and sativa. And even then it's just barely.

No. 47195

Hmm, wasn't speaking from a scientific perspective but from one of experience. I am definitely much less anxious when vaporizing than when smoking, regardless of what's inside. But I see what you mean.

No. 47212

Understandable; I wasn't trying to deny your own experience. I've personally had many serious anxiety episodes both when smoking and vaping. I don't think I could confidently say which ones gave me worse anxiety though.

I could also be wrong about it objectively actually causing more anxiety despite the increase in THC ratio. There are many other factors that could go into it. From Googling, it looks like some people report more anxiety from smoking, some report more anxiety from vaping, and some with no noticeable difference. It seems like more people report smoking gives them more anxiety than vaping than the reverse, so it's certainly possible your experience will apply to more people.

Yeah, set and setting matters a lot, like for many other drugs. If you go into it anxious or in a bad mood, you're just going to amplify that.

No. 47217

I'll probably try again soon since it's about to legal here (Canada) but yeah, my first experience was not cool. I had my finger on the "9" on my phone for hours, ready to call 911 becaue I was convinced I was gonna die.
But like, that shit is so much stronger than it used to be too. A ton of THC. At least according to my older stoner friends but who knows.

No. 47230

so bummed out that i have practically 0 chances of getting sativa around here since everyone gets their stuff from some homegrower and those guys grow nothing but indica (doesn't grow so tall)

No. 47246

Any recommendations for anxiety and sleep?

No. 47247

Hash or weed, for some people it increases anxiety problems but I don't think it does for me. You know yourself best so decide for yourself if you think it will or won't, my anxiety is quite bad but I don't think it's due to smoking, I find it helps more than anything. I smoke hash more, it feels better for you compared to smoking weed - you're less lethargic and such and I just generally feel better when I smoke weed, I get paranoid sometimes when I smoke weed but not often. I smoke to help me sleep.

No. 47276

Seconding this anon's answer. If you can't get hash, a few puffs of weed and a melatonin pill will have you asleep in no time and – probably – sleeping like a rock.

I personally recommend avoiding things like Nyquil, as the DXM can worsen or initiate anxiety or panic attacks.

A word of caution though: any drug (including antidepressants, booze, melatonin) can cause you to have some really whack and fucked-up dreams. On the positive side, you can have some amazing ones too. Be careful with the combinations you're making!

No. 47689

I used to grow shrooms and I wish I still could; otherwise if I want to trip I have to put up with my boyfriend's younger brother and his boring ass stories about Coachella.

Adderall is almost perfect though

No. 49213

Growing shrooms was ridiculously easy, I did it too. 10/10 would recommend. They taste gross tho.

No. 49223

I love molly but I suffer too much from the comedowns. It's my favorite drug.

Tried weed and shrooms before

Used to be a hardcore weed smoker, would smoke every single day before school. It made me look ugly and dry eye made it unbearable to wear circle lens, so I just quit altogether bc I want to always look kawaii. Plus I gained weight from munchies and just became a lazy lil shit in general. Not to mention I was so awkward and paranoid, I was so aware of myself and my actions and I can still picture how awkward I was whenever I smoked.

I want to try adderall but I recently moved to a country where it's hard to find drugs and all amphetamines are illegal :\

No. 49230

Ive fucked w/ weed, acid, shrooms, dmt, molly (mdma), vyvanse (prescibed), benzos (prescribed), pain killers, muscle relaxers and did a little meth once.
I smoke weed daily for medical reasons, but i love mixing weed and pills like vyvanse, xanax, opiates ect. I do that on the reg and since i dont like taking My vyvanse everyday (im actually ADD) I just save what ill need for work and use the rest to speed.

I dont trip or roll as much as i use to because of the negative effects its had on my everyday ability to function (i feel like theyve made me so dumb tbh)
Ive completely stopped acid because i just cant handle tripping for so long and my come downs are god fuck awful. Shrooms ill still fuck with and maybe DMT, but other than that ive really chilled with the harder drugs.

No. 49375

Which ones in particular do you think made u dumb?

No. 49377


All of them probably could. Weed is what i usually like becuz cheep and easy to find, and I've noticed my memoryhas went to shit, I've been making more dumb fuck ups.

At the same time I've been getting better grades in school, and I've had easier times repairing computers and learning codes.

so like idk

No. 83976

Smoking pot is a given, but I consume herculean ammounts of the stuff.

I suppose I have to, English weed isn't known for it's potency.

I like acid best of all, it's gentler than liberty caps, the emotional rollercoaster effect isn't so pronounced I find.

Can't stand uppers, coke heads and speed freaks get on my tits.

MDMA can be great if it's not cut with methamphetamine, I think the last lot I had was, it wasn't quite right.

A Salvia dose of X60 potency was the most major trip of my life.

I thought I was dead and I couldn't hear or see anything but molten brass with black chevronss moving up and right into a howling black void like someone had folded over the page corner of reality, and there was nothing behind it.

I briefly believed that I must have been hit by a car because the chevrons made me think of tire-tracks across my brainpan.

No. 83977

Best experience I had with the stuff was also the first.

A friend had some nice product they'd been gifted with, we bombed about a .3 each in rizla papers and set off into the hills with nothing but our good selves and enough water for both of us.

We talked for what seemed like hours lazily clambering from one field to another, getting lost and deciding to simply walk straight through hedges rather than find our way around them.

I remembered nothing of what we'd talked about, but at the time it seemed like all the mysteries of the universe could be unfurled in the hand; all their contents revealed like a flattened paper fortune teller.

Eventually I passed out at the summit of the hill, near some standing stones, and woke up wrapped around my toilet at home.

He'd carried me, semi-conscious two miles across hills and boggy ground and a maze of farmers boundaries, and managed to bundle me into my bathroom without me recalling any of it.

No. 84216

where do people go to find LSD? I've been dying to find the original LSD-25 forever and not some "my friend got it from a friend" tab that could be RC's but nobody cares enough to test it. Like one day I decided "I'm gonna find some acid" and i called my friends who I knew had connects. Everyone can get me weed or someone to buy us alcohol but nobody knows where to find psychedelics. One suggested we drive across the city to a college town, hang around all shady like and then maybe get some connections. then others try to push DXM cause you can go get it yourself. and i'm like well i can also go bump caffeine tablets if i crush them up.

No. 84219

You don't find LSD. LSD finds you.

Seriously, try hanging out with some hippies or nerds, they tend to be the psychedelics people. Protip: the smarter the crowd the better your bet.

No. 84228

There are certain websites on the internet which shall go unnamed in this conversation.

They often change because they are continually shut down, and pop back up again, but any "legitimate" black market site will have peer reviews and comments sections, which will give insignt as to the veracity of the product, though caveat emptor applies strongly, and some vendors pad their comments sections just like Amazon.

These websites facilitate a transaction between buyer and seller by digital currency; Bitcoin being the classic example, but the websites I have used have had a list of digital currencies that they use; these digital currencies are not my specialty, and I am not knowledgeable in their procurement, nor have I needed to be thanks to my pool of friends.

LSD in tab form is easy to send by mail, as it is odourless, and comes on paper, so as to be sent by a conventional nondescript envelope.

This makes it in many ways the ideal mail-order recreational chemical, besides the other obvious complicating factors.

And remember, don't take drugs before you look them up on Erowid, which is a highly valuable resource for both basic pharmacological effects and "trip journals".

And if you don't have a reasonable suspicion of what something is, don't take it at all.

No. 84229

are you talking about The deepweb shivers

No. 84232

I suppose depth is relative.

I mean, Tor isn't exactly a big secret, it's a free user friendly legitimate downloadable application.

That just happens to make it exponentially easier to find and procure illiegal goods and services online.

I am explicitly refraining from endorsing any particular site because A: loose lips sink ships and B: I haven't done it in a while and it's likely all my links are dead.

No. 84241

I hope this is sarcasm

No. 84243

It well may be, such is tha nature of online text communication, uncomplicated by such things as academic inflection marks or too many emoticons.

No. 85975

I've tried molly, coke, mushrooms, lsd, 25i and of course pot. I used to smoke pot almost everyday but it started to make me feel really anxious so I stopped, I never suffered from anxiety before my weed smoking days, I really regret becoming a stoner. I've laid off drugs for the most part these days, though I do coke once in a blue moon.

No. 85994

has anyone ever told you that you type like admin-sama? i want to read a conversation in /meta/ between you two. it would be like watching a gentleman's duel.

No. 86002

my own experiences:
i never touched so much as a single beer, cigarette or ~marihuana~ until i moved away for college.
art school, man. art school.
for the first year, I was pretty good. I got drunk for the first time, which was horrible, and I think I tried cigarettes and weed and didn't like either. I tried robotripping for a little bit and really liked it, but it was very difficult to conceal/function, so eventually I stopped. Tried spice in my sophomore year because I didn't have connections for weed and the head shops in my city hadn't all been busted yet. Eventually, I moved into a hippie co-op in my junior year and turned into a total stoner. (It didn't help that I was dating the community's weed dealer for the next two years. Even since we've broken up, he's still my go-to guy 'cause I get a discount.) That's when I had most regular access to psychedelics. I haven't tried DMT or mescaline, but basically everything else is checked off. I had a fantastic headtrip about a year and a half ago and haven't really had the desire to do it since, though.

Basically, I wasn't really concerned about any of my vices until last year. I briefly dated this guy from a wealthy family and he introduced me to coke and lately, heroin. When he was buying, I would occasionally join in because 'no skin off my nose', right? but he's started asking me to go in half lately, or to buy for 'us' entirely. I like him and heroin is kind of fun for a night, but I'm starting to worry that he's addicted. He's been clean until a couple of months ago, but he's starting to use more often than I'm comfortable with.
Really, coke is my poison of choice, but it's so fucking expensive. Heroin-guy is also the source for that, so I can't really afford to piss him off or cut him out of my life. TBH, I would give up all my drugs (and my right arm, and the soul of my firstborn child) for an Adderall prescription. HOW IS IT that people can find connections for heroin at any fucking gas station in the ghetto after midnight but I can't find a source for some perfectly legal pharmaceuticals?
I could always silk road it, I guess, I just hate waiting on the mail and someone in this city has to have a stupid prescription.

No. 86005

Psilocybin truffles, shocked me OUT of a psychosis, the first time I used it. So well, good stuff.

Weed, didn't like it.

Kratom, small doses when I can't sleep, higher doses when I need a boost. Used it while waiting for proper meds.

All legal btw.

No. 86006

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Also, just for you, lolcow:
I found this pamphlet (printed in 1961) called 'WHAT ABOUT SMOKING? A Brief Common-Sense Discussion' at a local garage sale. It is full of many such amusing anecdotes such as pic related and humorous illustrations. Chapter X, The Menace of Marihuana, is a particular gem.

No. 86010

I've done lsd, shrooms, mdma and I assume 2-cb (got it and thought it was acid, turned out to be something else).
tilidin/tramadol (=pain meds, opioids) is nice too.

I've done weed on a daily basis in my teens, but now it only makes me dissociate much more and gives me anxiety attacks.

No. 86011

>shocked me OUT of a psychosis
how? I'm curious

No. 86035

I've done pot and LSD, don't want anything stronger. I wouldn't say I use shrooms regularily, but around every few months.

No. 86037

I'm not sure, psilocybine kind of 'resets' the brain, so maybe it's like a chemical ECT? But obviously it isn't a permanent solution like ECT, after a while it can come back again. Plus it's unreliable, it really is a big gamble whether it could help, or make you worse.

No. 86117

Personally I find that reading lists of the drugs people have done is boring as shit and doesn't generate much conversation, so I'll ask: what is your favourite combination of drugs?

Twice over the last month I've found myself on a cocktail of weed, xanax, and lsd, and have had a fantastic time. The LSD is the primary high but it also counteracts any drowsiness I get from xanax or weed, and weed seems to enhance the acid trip a bit. The xanax removes any anxiety I might have about a bad trip (it's an actual prescription for anxiety) and gets me in a great mood. Would recommend.

No. 86133

You too? I have a panic attack and feel "locked up" inside no matter what strain I've tried. Sometimes I dissociate. Everyone insists that I'm imagining thing/am crazy. "WEED IS DA BEST ITS MEDICINE"

No. 86138

Do you still feel compelled to smoke it?

No. 86140

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it is boring! whenever the topic comes up in person i find myself wondering if i every really graduated high school and if this is all just a fever dream

lsd is nice, i have heard so many people say this and that would lead to a bad trip but i find that a day alone with acid and some weed and a beer at the end is pure gold.

for some reason i will spontaneously get the shakes when i am smoking mj. sometimes i think i am just imagining them but i can see my hands shaking and it's a little unnerving. i find a beer or two helps. it may be just too much coffee. coffee + a bowl = how i get stuff done; so maybe i just get too tensed up. alcohol is ok, but there's definitely a "tipping point" for myself and for others. you've got to know how to ride the buzz and not drink too much or else the night is done for.

i'm glad it helps with your anxiety! that sounds positively delightful. i was prescribed klonopin (sp?) against my will as a younger person. i absolutely hated it because i was terrified of how it might change my personality, most people think i was stupid and would have loved having the prescription but ironically i associate pills and the like with the utmost of stress and anxiety and they just make me feel sick and give me nightmares. i'm glad they have a positive use for you! funny how things affect people differently

No. 86144

i've done acid, shrooms, weed, moxy and ketamine.

i love combining acid and weed partway through the trip because all of my visuals change into something much softer and natural looking, if that makes sense.

two out of the three times i've done moxy, my trips have been awful. i took it a third time last night and it was actually very enjoyable.

No. 86148

Not so much compelled as pressures into it by friends who swear its amazing and the problem is with me. They seem to think that if I smoke more, it will help. It does not, or hasn't yet.

No. 86149

In my experience stoners are so used to being told straight up lies about the negative effects of weed that they're immune to any criticism of it at all even when valid. That mentality was what led me to dependency issues, I thought smoking every day was harmless when it wasn't. I've only recently substantially cut back and honestly you might need to stop hanging around with them if that's what keeps happening when you're with them.
My friends don't seem to want to cut back at all so I've been seeing them a lot less lately.

No. 86151

Personally I've never been one for drinking much (I think the last time I was drunk was September) which might explain my affinity for weed and other drugs, and I'm also worried about drinking while on benzos and fucking up my liver or just making a fool of myself.

Is the shaking ever present while sober? You could try taking one substance at a time to try and isolate the cause of the shaking if it bothers you, maybe just have a coffee, or just smoke a bowl, and see if/when it pops up?

I get what you mean about changing your personality. If I'm on 1 mg of xanax I can control myself but usually any more in a night and I'm a little more loose lipped about personal issues than I'd like. Also taking them too often makes me wary of dependency so there's a little anxiety added there ironically.
Never taken Klonopin before but from my understanding, it's slower acting and longer lasting which usually doesn't help with mental states if you're on a drug you don't really want to be on. If I sleep on a xanax I don't think I'd even be capable of dreaming lol. Hope you find something that helps you.

No. 86160

I feel you. it's no imagination, I've seen documentaries and some people react this way on thc (with panic/anxiety).
I know that feeling of being locked inside, too, but I have a weird body image/feeling to begin with.

No. 86172

I don't combine anything, when I'm high on shrooms I counteract anxiety by finding sources of light. Yep. light. The sun, lightbulbs, lamps or pretty much anything that gives off light put me at peace. You should try it, see if it works.

The bad thing is, if you spend 4 hours staring at a lamp your eyes will be dry and fucked for ages.

No. 86179

a good combination is shrooms and mdma.
acid + mdma should be good too.

LSD or shrooms are good combined with nature ;)

No. 86180

+ all criticism of it seems like some massive conspiracy against DA EXPANSION OF CONSHASNASS

No. 86181

FUCK MY LIFE I took some truffles in amsterdam last weekend and literally shot into a vortex that culminated in the faceless head of Hilary Clinton smashing against mine so violently I woke back up and I had passed out in the middle of a bar with the whole place looking down at me.

Then I every single thought or perception I've had deconstructed over the next 12 hours (this might be ego death?) and it was like nothing was ever going to make me comfortable or happy again because both those things are psychological constructions and don't really exist.

+ there were kaleidoscopes of faces of all the dead black people that had died in the process of building the white empire in which we exist all over the bathroom walls.

it was so fucking intense, maybe it was because they were synthetic and made in a lab? that idea made me more paranoid i felt so poisoned.

anyone else had experiences like?

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No. 86187

>the faceless head of Hilary Clinton smashing against mine
> there were kaleidoscopes of faces of all the dead black people that had died in the process of building the white empire

Shrooms and Tumblr: A bad combination

No. 86189

yeah literally, I have over 10,000 pointless posts

No. 86191

does anyone know the difference between lab made hallucinogens?

No. 86193

I love weed/hash but I can't really smoke much because it literally makes me stupid. My vocabulary decreases like a motherfucker and it takes me weeks to boot my dumb brain back up after a binge. That and the fact that if i have it i will smoke it. I guess I have an addictive personality. I mean I can and will smoke all day every if i buy some, but then I'll forget about the stuff for like a year. Idk. Other than that I did LSD once, it was funny but I'm not doing it again.

No. 86199

wow that sounds really awful. are you okay now?

I've never had lab psylos but I've had lsd which is also synthetic. there's a difference, but it's important what you occupy yourself with before you're doing drugs.

No. 86207

Yeah I'm fine now. I'm not like the horror stories you hear about where people are like stuck in psychosis for eternity.

Yeah you 100% need to occupy yourself. I shot into a vortex because we were all just sitting around in a circle drinking tea and everything just felt so fucking mundane I felt like I was going to explode.

No. 86209

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i'm not one for drinking either tbh it just kind of takes the edge off when i'm hanging out with people. weed is greatly preferred - but yes preserve that liver! i totally understand that line of thinking. i got drunk on my birthday in march and ended up crying on the floor in my friend's bathroom haha. absolutely mortifying, i don't see myself drinking anything else for a long time kek

i found myself shaking just now, no coffee or weed, just really perturbed about something. i usually blame the mj but i think it just may be that pesky anxiety. currently taking some deep breaths, i think i just get wrapped up in my thoughts and forget to breathe haha. but for real apparently breathing is essential

when i was younger i used to get so stressed out i'd have out of body experiences. it was only later in life i learned what they were called so i think it may be something like that, just on a less dramatic scale. i think smoking helps keep me generally calm but it's up to me to manage small scale freakouts

ahh the legendary loose lipped-ness! haha yeah i get you there. it's so thrilling to be relaxed and be able to talk about literally anything without constant self policing, and often it's just really satisfying to be too honest. most people are wrapped up in their own dramas anyhow, don't worry about it too much <3 it's ok to just talk

you seem like such a pleasant human to chill with, drugs or not. i hope your life gets better and better anon

No. 86214

Man. The worst bathroom-walls-turning-into-other-things experience that I've had was when everything turned into cats. apparently this is a common thing.
anon, next time, think about cats instead of the white empire.

No. 86218

Which strain? Dutchii perhaps? That is a fairly new strain that can be quite a heavy experience.

Furthermore, what were you thinking? Taking psilocybin truffles IN A BAR?! You should take them in a familiar, safe place, with someone you can trust.

Also ego death and an existential crisis at the end of your trip are very common. If you would've done it in a hotel room, it would've been less intense.

Next time, stay in a room, alone or with 1 person. Keep it dark, or watch a movie. Or maybe do some in the forest. But don't do it in an environment like a bar ffs.

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Yeah the bar wasn't a great place because it made all our social interactions seem unbearably mundane. Movies are dumb so I couldn't have bared that either. It didn't get better back at the hotel room but perhaps it was too late by then.

I'm not sure I want to do them again, it was so horrific. If I did it would have to be in forest like you say, or in a garden on a really sunny day.

No. 86242

Atlantis should be pretty mild usually, it really was the environment then that effed you up.

In a forest or garden would already be a huge improvement, with tripping it's all about the setting. How you are feeling, where you are and who are with you.

The trick with it not getting horrific, is keeping in mind that it will pass. No matter which feelings/thoughts you get, it will pass. You don't have to panic.

No. 86253

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My best trip was after a huge binge on shrooms. I sat around being insanely happy for around an hour (so I'm told, I had no concept of time) then I worshipped a lamp for 4 hours. This ikea lamp was the most beautiful thing in the world to me, I could feel its light enter me like a loving warmth, entering through my skin and then washing over my body in waves like an orgasm of warmth and joy. I didn't feel the time pass by at all, my brain was glitching up with time. I couldn't feel in the present even when I tried. The rim of the lamp seemed to spin around and everything was so bright and colourful. When I closed my eyes I saw intense visions. To be fair I took a heroic dose, didn't even weigh it, just took all the dried ones I had (at least 6 grams at the time?) and a whole bunch of fresh ones.

10/10 would do again. Never do it without a chaperone though. I had my bf at the time looking after me. He was worried I was brain damaged lol, because I was drooling and could barely communicate beyond "The lamp…"

No. 86255

anyone here tried jimsom weed? I've read a lot of fucked up trip stories on erowid.

No. 86256

Jimson, fuck

No. 86289

My last time drunk was a similar experience, too much red wine and I was effectively became a garden ornament for the rest of the party I was at, haven't been too inclined to do it again since then lol.

Can't really offer much advice if your shaking happens when you're sober unfortunately, but at least you know that the drugs you take aren't fucking you up in that particular respect.
I've never had an out of body experience but I'm very interested in the idea of it, although maybe an OBE as a result of stress might not be as fun. I'm curious as to what they're like but I don't think I want to take huge amounts of drugs to trigger one. I'm glad the stress related OBEs stopped for you because it sounds really unnerving.

>it's so thrilling to be relaxed and be able to talk about literally anything without constant self policing, and often it's just really satisfying to be too honest

I get you 100%. It might just be xanax, but I suspect it has something to do with me not feeling comfortable talking about personal stuff at all when sober or just on weed, so much so that it's like opening the floodgates when I take one. I'm hoping at some point my tolerance stops this, or I just run out of personal things to say.

>you seem like such a pleasant human to chill with, drugs or not. i hope your life gets better and better anon

:-) You too, sometimes I forget it's possible to have nice conversations with anons.

No. 86290

I know what you mean. It took a long time for me to admit to myself that I'm slower, less creative, and unproductive when high. I think part of it was because I felt inferior for being so affected by something that other people all over the world seem to be able to do without side effects, and part of it because if I admit the side effects to myself, I admit to myself that I wasted a large part of my life/money doing something so harmful to myself. That, and when I was smoking all the time there wasn't even time for introspection or time to observe how different I am when sober. Obviously this won't apply to everyone, but in my circle of friends that do smoke I've yet to see an exception.

Not to go off on a tangent, but I think I get what is meant by 'weed is a gateway drug'. People smoke weed for the first couple of times, realise it's relatively harmless in spite of what authority figures say about it, and develop a mistrust for what the authorities say about drugs in general and decide to experiment with other drugs or use weed liberally.
I wish weed was more akin to alcohol in terms of public perception (ie safe in moderation, but can easily lead to dependency) just because I think it would lead to less distrust and misinformation about weed and drugs in general.

No. 86322

I've really only been consistently smoking weed. Sometimes I'll eat edibles, but not often.

The worst high I got from weed was when I tried using a bong for the first time. I took too big a hit and spent half the night on the front lawn of my friend's place hallucinating a faceless white cat while trying not to die. Even worse is that when people would talk to me everything started spinning more violently. After I finally came down, I decided to stick with joints and edibles.

The best experience was smoking with my friend. We pretty much spent the night listening to trip hop and reminiscing about our childhood.

I find I get the best rest from it too. I don't have too much of an issue with anxiety if I let myself settle into the high.

I would like to try other drugs. Mainly codeine, xanax, Molly, and maybe PCP and vicodin. Like, the only other thing I've had outside of weed was laughing gas. Which was a nice high, I was calm and happy. The only thing I didn't like was that I ended up with a sore jaw from clenching.

No. 86323

What's the appeal of PCP?

No. 86325

I still haven't learned how to properly smoke weed.

No. 86327

Get someone to smoke a bong but leave the smoke in the chamber for you, then breathe in, hold for 3 seconds, breathe out.

No. 86338

Seems like it would be an interesting high.

See, I like joints for ease of use, at least to me it's easier. That, and it isn't as easy for me to fuck myself over when doing a hit.

No. 86376

Once you know what is happening inside a bong it's not even remotely difficult. I think you've built it up to something it's not in your head, it's simple enough that stoners can do it.

Light the weed, cover the shotty hole with a finger and suck air in from the chamber slowly so that the smoke from the lit weed collects in the chamber. When there's enough smoke in the chamber, or the weed has all been burnt, take your finger off the shotty hole and breath in deeper so that outside air can enter the chamber through the shotty and accompany the smoke into your lungs. Hold and exhale. That's it. The water is just there to cool down the smoke as it passes through the pipe into the chamber and make it less harsh.

Joints waste so much weed I can't smoke them in good conscience when a bong is available.

No. 86377

I think it can initially make you more creative and want to do exciting things. Eventually though when you realise it allows you to mong out for 7 hours in front of the internet it doesn't.

I smoked for two years and then the paranoia just got too much from ConSpiracy documentaries. 'IS MY COLLEGE LEXXCTURER A LIZARD?!!'

No. 86378

Anyone here super into Ketamine? Cuz I am

No. 86380

I had a daily thing with weed for 4 years, now I have a daily thing with dexedrine and never smoke weed. I get a lot more done now.
I compliment the dex with magnesium, nicotine and caffeine.
I still semi-regularly take ecstasy too. I never drink so it's good to have a thing I can be on when I'm partying.
My list of drugs I've done is boring though, a few different trips, a few different benzos, a couple opiates. Nangs.

No. 86381

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I was once like you. Made everyone else do the Bong work for me till I had to do it myself when I would get a hangover. You just need practice. Alternatively, you can get a vape. I bought this one for my bf and it's a god send.

No. 86382

I've done a day alone on acid and wrapped it up with some beer, best way to end a trip ever. The only thing that was missing was my ability to go outside and not having my partner in crime around.

No. 86393

I could try it again, but my first experience was just terrible.So I'm not sure. Now see, I've actually been interested in getting a vape. Got any suggestions?

No. 86394

>benzos (but I was drunk so I didn't feel anything)

m80 that doesn't make any sense, benzos + booze fucks you up good and proper, what dosage were you doing?

That doesn't sound like acid or ecstasy. LSD doesn't make you hallucinate, per se, more like it means shit warps, but that either sounds like really low dose LSD or some other new/ novel psych.

No. 86396

not the best combo in terms of having a party or any kind of deep realisations, but the highest I've ever been was coming down from mdma, smoking a few joints, a LOT of ketamine and nitrous balloons. I forgot how to speak english for a while.

No. 86398

How into it are you, anon? Watch your bladder.

I spent 3 months a few years ago constantly high. Like I think there wasn't a single 24 hour period I didn't have k in my system, I only stopped because I ran out of money. This was back when it was cheap, plentiful and high quality. I was buying it in bulk off darknet markets, sometimes as little as £10 a gram for good, on weight shit.

A friend told me I was "the most boring person ever" for those 3 months. I definitely don't regret it, it's not like I had anything better to do at the time and I'm down to using it maybe once or twice every few months now.

No. 86403

Only the one pictured. It's the pax ploom 1st gen I think. I didn't research it, my be did & I bought it as a gift. I love it though. Retard proof.

No. 86404

Most people loosely define hallucinate as seeing things that aren't there/actually happening. Like seeing the weird patterns and shit, someone might define that as hallucinating. I know I've "seen" some shit out of the corner of my eye in the dark.

No. 86409

how is being on k

No. 86429

Vapes are good if you need to get high discreetly, other than that you're not getting as much bang for your buck as you do with a bong. I have a vape and compared to a bong, it's like suddenly realising you've been high for the last ten minutes rather than feeling the high hit you, which is my favourite part.
Please don't fork out $250+ because you couldn't figure out how to use a bong.

No one is born knowing how to use a bong, and I've been smoking regularly for years and will still cough every now and then. Watch a slow mo bong rip on youtube to get a conceptual understanding if you need to lol.

No. 86430

Absolutely. Some people might be creative and have that creativity amplified by weed, but if you're not the creative type, weed won't turn you into one, and people that claim to need weed to 'get the creative juices flowing' tend to just have shit ideas that get through the filter because they're too high to care/realise.

It's great if you have nothing to do but browse all day because it makes it fun, but also removes the desire to change that situation in the first place.

No. 86435

Honestly though a vape is more convenient than a bong and I don't buy that you get more bang for your buck. I. Terms of what, your weed or your delivery system? Granted I'm not a huge stoner but honestly, there's no difference. I live in a legal state so we have grade and great delivery systems. I'm a paranoid smoker so I don't like to carry all that equipment around anyway.

No. 86437

Do antidepressants work?

No. 86439

Depends what your situation is. They helped me to stop being suicidal and not be so anxious. But my main problem is adhd so I have comorbidity that clouds that. Regardless, it brought me out of that depression fog and gave me some energy to go about my day (Effexor specifically).

No. 86445

No. 86446

I just want to stop having suicidal thoughts do they work for that?

No. 86453

Try eating less carbs and exercising

No. 86455

So how many carbs is cutting less carbs? I'll try exercising btw thank you. If I can get out of my bed. But perhaps if I cut the carbs out I'll feel good enough to get out of my bed no?

No. 86456

Try eating nothing with overt carbohydrates. You can't avoid them all obviously since even veggies have them, but try for a week to go atkins. You'll be amazed at how energetic you'll feel. It might and probably isn't the solution to your problem (depression due to grief? Illness? ) but it'll help immensely.

No. 86465

In terms of amount of weed used per how high you get, how fast you get high, and how long that high lasts, bongs win in every category. Vaping is a much slower process than even two or three bong hits, which means the high onset is gradual. There are obviously situations where vapes are more beneficial (transporting equipment like you said, smell, etc.) but if you're asking about the best way to get high with friends or by yourself, where being caught isn't an issue, the answer is a bong.

>Granted I'm not a huge stoner but honestly, there's no difference.

You do raise an interesting point actually, I'm speaking from the point of view of someone whose tolerance has stayed more or less consistent over a few years. Someone that doesn't smoke regularly might not notice the difference between vapes and bongs as much, but that said, I wouldn't recommend buying a $250 vape for someone who doesn't smoke regularly.

I have a vape and a glass bong and honestly I regret buying the vape, I'm not in situations where I need to smoke discreetly nearly often enough for it to be a good investment.

No. 86467

Please don't listen to random anons on things like radically changing your diet to alter your mental state, they're not dieticians, people react differently to different diets, and carbs, like everything else, are fine in moderation.
Saying something like 'try eating less carbs' when they don't even know your carb intake to begin with is just fucking stupid, especially when the original question was about antidepressants.

Both diet and antidepressants are something you should be talking about with professionals. Antidepressants give different effects to different people so you shouldn't be discouraged if the first one you try doesn't work, it doesn't mean you're 'incurable'.

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I just recently started smoking weed– my friend says if you smoke a cigarette or cigar after you smoke you can get higher? is this true?

I really do like weed like.. damn…it's so nice.. but my lungs can't really take it. I might start investing in larger amounts and make edibles.

No. 86486

It's just headspins, you don't get higher.

No. 86491

There isn't great scientific basis for it in general, but new diets are worth trying and experimenting with. I think some people have varying degrees of blood sugar regulation issues, in which case carb consumption can affect their energy moreso than others.

I personally tend to have more energy if I'm fasting. Paradoxically.

No. 86503

I agree that diets can be beneficial, but when someone asks something like 'do antidepressants work, I just want to stop my suicidal thoughts', 'eat less carbs' is pretty much useless.

No. 86517

Only for severe depression. Other wise it isn't worth the side effects.

With other disorders you can't be on just anti depressants, because then it could make you suicidal. So you would be put on anti depressants + mood stabilizer or anti depressants + anti psychotics etc.

For MILD depression, exercise and lifestyle changes can work, but we're talking about MILD depression then.

No. 86518

Having more energy while fasting, is the high ana-chans feel.

No. 86519

It's less useless than antidepressants. Besides, I also told them to exercise. Exercise has been solidly proven to help with depression, unlike antidepressants.

No. 86520

I feel more energetic when fasting too. I guess it explains why all those skellies are so crazy.

No. 86521

I smoke weed erryday and have tried coke & MDMA. I love MD but I never go out enough to to it regularly and it doesn't work now I'm on antidepressants. I bought two tabs of acid a few months ago and still haven't used them bc I'm a bit scared lol

No. 86522

Exercise has been shown to help with MILD depression, and anti depressants have been shown to help with SEVERE depression.
Not every depression is the same.

No. 86545

I have the opportunity to drop acid for the 3rd time soon but I think I'm gonna pass, just because I'd have to be with someone I can barely stand while sober. :(((((

No. 86550

>just because I'd have to be with someone I can barely stand while sober. :(((((

That sucks but it's a smart decision, you don't want to have a bad trip

No. 86555

Yeah, I stopped wanting to an hero over every little thing. They definitely help, definitely worth it.
You can do all that other shit that's good for your health once you're able to function normally. Just focus on getting out the door to an appointment anon. Hope you feel better.

No. 86578

>Exercise is less useless than antidepressants in terms of treating depression
In case anyone was still thinking about taking mental health advice from this anon, reconsider.

No. 86579

You probably don't even need a trip sitter for your third time unless bad things happened the first 2 times.

No. 86609


Samefag here, and are you me? Thats pretty much exactly what happened to me for like 2 or 3 months. I had a uti for like a week. That was a few years ago and now i only do it on special occasions. Its really fun to mix with mdma… And it calms you down if you get pmma by accident.

No. 86654

Has anyone ever taken concerta?

No. 86655

Yes. It does give you a hyperfocus/concentration boost much like adderall or other stims, but it makes you feel like a complete zombie. No emotions, nothing interests you; if you don't have an activity planned out to conduct you'll feel anxious. The idea of food makes you feel nauseous (can be a good or bad thing, depending on your motives). Sleep deprivation will kick in and make you paranoid if you're not careful. No real purpose for it unless you've got an essay to write in some real crunch time.

No. 86656

Acid is really great. If it's your first time, try a small amount first, pop on some chillwave, maybe go outside if you're in a safe area. It's really lovely stuff. Maybe snag some 5-htp for the comedown (never done it myself but heard good things), or just smoke a few bowls to ease it.

No. 86657

I did two grams of shrooms by myself (my friend said I need 4 grams to truly hallucinate or trip, so I thought I might try 2g. for now), and I felt like a kid again. Just couldn't stop laughing and everything felt lovely but a bit interesting.

No. 86660

I'm prescribed and Dx though. Are you speaking on behalf of someone Dx or someone who buys for recreation/studying? Just took my 1st tab and I feel no difference.

No. 86661


My friend introduced me to Shpongle on my 1st trip. Music is key.

No. 89969

I dropped acid a couple days ago but I don't know if it was LSD or what, exactly. It was cool, pretty visuals and weird thoughts, spent some time freaking myself out by staring in the mirror. It was also the first time I'd heard Dark Side of the Moon and that was really neat. It took a couple hours to start up, and for a while I thought the visual quirks I'd noticed were just because I was tired. 10/10 will do 2 tabs next time

No. 90309

I didn't believe I'd be able to enjoy that band when I first checked them out sober but my brain on shrooms loved them. It was like the music was inside my brain

No. 90338

LSD will not work properly is you are on SSRIs. Same goes for other psys like shrooms.
Also it's potentially dangerous to combine MDMA and SSRIs. It could cause serotonin syndrome.

No. 90591

it's like regular amphetamine only smoother and cleaner feeling, doubly long lasting and with tactile euphoria (similar to a low dose of mdma, you get a kick out of touching shit). it is only slightly more euphoric than regular amphetamine in higher doses imo. the comedown can also be way harsher and the paranoia way more severe.

No. 90625

Yes for mdma (serotonin syndrome is a given), but personally, not for lsd. I've been able to trip just as fine/intensely on an ssnri as I have off of it.

No. 90634

It also highly.HIGHLY. depends how you do it. Orally it's like an adderall. Snorting it's marginally better/euphoric. Smoking is way potent, euphoric, and you get a head rush. I never IV'd it but that's the final way

No. 90665

I did ecstasy the first time yesterday
won't ever do it again… took it orally at 6:30pm and didn't feel the effects until around 10pm but everyone else felt the effects after only 20 minuets
since it wasn't effecting me I did a bump about an hour later then took more orally and then we all went for a walk in the forest. I had so much more fun in the woods just hanging out "sober" than when the high finally kicked in and in hindsight that's probably my fault. when we came back we all did another bump and took 3.5g of mushrooms. I started feeling the effects almost immidiately afterwards, and it hit me like a fucking ton of bricks… I suddenly felt extremely eutrophic relaxed and comfortable and my body became extremely heavy and I couldn't stand at all. I laid on the floor for hours fully conscience listening to my friends but was so out of it I couldn't interact hardly at all and they were all worried about me. around midnight I started to have a panic attack and wanted to go home, so my bf and I decided to drive home and I have NEVER been more fucking terrified in my life. I was sobbing and freaking out the whole time afraid we would be pulled over or kill someone while driving and literally felt like my life was over… I'm absolutely positive that I had/have seratonin syndrome since I stopped taking Zoloft only five days ago. everyone else had a really great time and no one had the effects like I did but this experience is enough to deter me from ever doing it again. I don't want to fuck with anything man made anymore or anything else in the foreseeable future

No. 90725

You should get your information BEFORE you take hard drugs.

My experiences:

MDMA - Best drug out there if pure and used responsibly. Really helped me grow as a person.

Amphetamines - ok-ish, boring since I get Adderall on prescription anyway

Opiates/Opioids - Great but addictive as fuck. Withdrawal isn’t worth it.

Amphetamine and Opiates: Way too good, would not recommend because it ruins you.

Benzos - Same as opiates, though less fun

Weed - boring

Cocaine - Fun if good quality but way too expensive and it makes you do stupid things like alcohol

Any sort of research chemicals - Don't fuck with this shit

Ecstacy Pills - Can be fun if you're close to the Netherlands and have access to drug checking. Would't touch this shit in the US. Though I don't know for what reason anyone would prefer pills over actual mdma crystals except maybe for the fun shapes and colors.

What I’ll never do: Crack & Meth for obvious reasons, psychedelic drugs like LSD or shrooms because I don’t trust my brain.
I’d like to try ketamine in the future.

No. 90738

Why ket and not lsd? I've heard freaky shit about ket. Honesty, I took it during a time that I had depression and was on an ssnri, but I was still depressed, just not suicidal. I've grown so much from that experience and have developed so much self awareness from it. You can always start with a small dose just to feel it. Idk, it's such a great adventure that you experience in chapters. What are you concerned your brain will do?

No. 90796

>>Way too good, would not recommend because it ruins you.

Good reviews/list anon– but tbh the drug itself doesn't ruin you unless you have a pre existing heart condition. As long as you eat, sleep, use vitamin supplements and exercise it's fine. Even the dopamine receptors can be repaired in a few months. People (myself included at one point) try to chase the euphoria high too much and they refuse to eat or sleep. But at that point you either take a tolerance break or smoke meth. I love meth but tweakers are the worst type of people so it's not worth it.

I do agree MDMA is the bomb and the best drug. It's crazy how some people do it every weekend because THAT shit will kill you. lol. Also I'm not big on psychedelics either.

No. 90797

Note that dopamine receptors can come back fairly easily, but serotonin receptors may never repair. So you have to be a lot more careful with MDMA than other drugs.

No. 90802

Shrooms and mdma should be fine. Most things with mdma is fucking great. I think the zoloft just fucked your shit up. 5 days off of it isn't enough imo. Also depends what exactly is in your ecstacy.. Like the other anon said, do your research. Don't be that girl who can't handle their drugs. If you can't handle anxiety don't take drugs. It's impossible to have a bad time with ecstacy if you're doing it right

No. 90806

This is true. The more I read about the long term effects of regular mdma use the more it concerns me for all the stupid people out there who abuse the fuck out of it. Cognitive decline, overheating the brain, shrinking the hippocampus, etc. There are so many benefits to trying it at least once/using it minimally, especially given the studies showing it helps treat people with PTSD.

No. 90807

Yeah. You really have to wait 6 weeks minimum between doses, and ideally 3 months.

No. 90810

yeah I have no doubt in my mind it was the Zoloft that fucked me up so bad. everyone else had a blast and didn't crash and burn like I did. if I ever decide to do it again months from now then I'll definitely take a smaller dose and wait longer before doing a bump for the effects to properly kick in the way they should've. it's shitty my first experience with it was fairly negative since I've only heard great things about it and I really want to experience it the way it's supposed to be and I wont go anywhere that I'll have to drive back home from - that was probably my biggest mistake since I was aware that seratonin syndrome was a probable possibility for me…

No. 90816

It can take several months for your serotonin receptors to get back to baseline after stopping SSRIs like Zoloft, if you've taken them for a while.

No. 90818

Your best bet is to do some research and lay off rec drugs OP.

No. 90828

i love weed and have been sober bcos i had a falling out with my dealer and i have no friends so i can't pick it up another way

feelsbad :/

No. 90845

order some online

it's pretty easy and safe. sometimes expensive, though.

No. 90873

Sure narc….

No. 90909


- ritalin/amphetamine/adderall
- Test. E. in very low doses
- Caffeine

All about that performance enhancement, both mentally & physically

No. 112645

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I've done acid a few times and weed. I don't know if I got a bad batch or what, but after smoking enough times with my friends I decided to buy some for myself and it made me sick every time I tried it. Now I'm pretty turned off to the drug as a whole.

LSD changed my life in all honesty. Helped with my depression and my overall attitude towards life. Much less melodramatic now and am super easy going whereas before I used to freak out about the future and worry myself sick over everything. The hallucinations were also cool as fuck obviously, but those didn't teach me anything aside from how subjective reality is which to be fair is kind of a big one.

I'm pretty open to most drugs aside from retard-tier ones like crack and heroin. I'd like to take molly, ketamine, and shrooms the most though

No. 112647

Have you guys actually never had hallucinations on LSD?

I have gotten visuals out the ass on just 110ug

To name a few just from that first trip:
>Some weird shadow lion and his cub were walking around on the roof of my apartment. Clear as day
>a bull popping out of the arch of a building
>cigarette turned into a lizard's tail
>faces on trees and rocks, along with personalities (became best friends with one, I'd come back to check up on him every few hours and shoot the shit with him)
>letters rearranging themselves on signs
>the blocks were numbered while I was playing jenga and the numbers kept changing very quickly
>two smokestacks with cartoon faces smoking cigarettes
>face on a statue sticks his tongue out at me

You get the idea

No. 112654

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>What drugs have you done?

DPH (benadryl lol), marijuana, LSD, shrooms, DMT, MDMA, alcohol, DXM (robotussin), hydrocodone, lorazepam, xanax, and i did cocaine once but didn't really get too high off it.

>What drugs do you use regularly?

Marijuana daily, alcohol sometimes. Did LSD a few months ago after not having tripped in about two years.

No. 112655

Oh I forgot some, 2CE, 2ct2, spice. I've done those too.

No. 112658

Absolutely none (not even a blunt). I'm socially retarded and have no idea where I could get some even though I've been wanting to try lsd to see if it would have an effect on my depresssion/anxiety.

No. 112659

Tell me about your dmt experience anon

No. 112660

I realise I'm replying to a 6 month old post, but as this thread has been bumped anyway, for anyone reading it through, this is false.

Here's a link
>A review of studies stretching back to 1981 concluded that regular exercise can improve mood in people with mild to moderate depression. It also may play a supporting role in treating severe depression.
>Another study, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine in 1999, divided 156 men and women with depression into three groups. One group took part in an aerobic exercise program, another took the SSRI sertraline (Zoloft), and a third did both. At the 16-week mark, depression had eased in all three groups. About 60%–70% of the people in all three groups could no longer be classed as having major depression. In fact, group scores on two rating scales of depression were essentially the same. This suggests that for those who need or wish to avoid drugs, exercise might be an acceptable substitute for antidepressants.

Exercise really does help. And unless you're diagnosed as severe, you shouldn't assume you are, because it's not that common, and it's next to impossible to say how severe you are, you have no frame of reference really. Even if you are, exercise helps.

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>What drugs have you done?
Trust me, a lot.
What drugs do you use regularly?

No. 112705

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I smoked it on a sunny day reclining on a lounge chair inside a screened in porch. My friend from the other end of the states gave it to me for free, she sprinkled some on top of a bowl of weed and I hit it wrong, apparently… I didn't quite "break through" to the "other side" but… as I looked at the houses across the street it was as if I saw each individual particle making up everything in my field of view turn into writhing shapes which then flickered upward like smoke or mist while getting smaller and smaller as they disappeared into the blue cloudless sky. I looked to my right where a paisley patterned curtain with a sort of vintage aesthetic was covering the living room window. A second later I returned my gaze to the view across the street, but two of the paisley patterns remained in the bottom right corner of my vision. Except they were made of translucent green and purple energy, the kind that you see against the darkness of the inside of your eyelids. Not only were the paisley beings alive and moving, they emanated a wordless anger which frightened me so greatly that within seconds everything which was abnormal to the sober mind vanished and suddenly my friend was asking me how I liked DMT. I was told my experience only lasted 7 minutes. Wish I had inhaled it correctly. Would recommend the documentary "The Spirit Molecule" if you're really curious about this substance which our brains naturally produce.

No. 112706

Thanks you. Already saw the documentation hence my question :)

No. 112707

No problem. Ah, great! :) I was lucky enough to get some from a friend but I bought 2CE from the darknet once I'm sure you can find DMT somewhere online.

No. 112719

> have used
oxy (only once)

> use regularly

none. i don't have access and don't really know anyone or hang around those crowds anymore (and it's probably better i keep it that way)

i used to really like shrooms and always felt like i had opened my mind i new ways after a trip.

No. 112746

i can see why you would want to try a hallucinogen to help depression/anxiety but please be aware drugs can also make these issues worse. if you do try these drugs, please do it in a place you are comfortable and with people you trust.

No. 112747

thats really fucking trippy. i thought those kinds of hallucinations were just made up on tv by people that have never actually done acid and just assume that's what its like.

for me, the hallucations were like the other anon described - objects around me warping, shapes, colors, patterns moving.

No. 112748

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I've only had weed and I use it regularly. I do it a few times a week, most of them being only one or two hits off of a pipe and then one night where I go to town. When I do a lot, I tend to get pretty existential in a good way. I get different perspectives on things than I would sober which can be really helpful, but I also often descend into typical stoner amazement ("Oh my god, you guys, us and dogs are different species and we're, like, best friends. That's so amaaaaazing").

Once in a blue moon I'll drink alcohol and smoke a lot of weed. That shit's pretty fun, but most of my friends don't like the combo. I'd be interested to try LSD or MDMA if ever given the opportunity.

No. 112806

I don't know if I ever try DMT. I have much respect for it. But at the same time it's so fascinating.. I like to read Terence Mckenna's experiences too.
2-CE was very funny, buyed it thinking it was acid, but it's totally different. I laughed so much about almost everything, including hallucinations.

No. 112815

i've smoked weed in the past but it is boring/ makes me crazy paranoid so i don't usually smoke anymore. i do mdma with my bf like 2-3 times a year. the last couple times i've started to kind of dislike it, because i can't stop thinking about how i'll never be that happy in real life.

No. 112816

>what drugs have you done?

Weed <- …my love.
molly <- personally, with what mental illnesses I suffer from, this was amazing. The only thing that keeps me from doing this more is the anxiety over drinking too much or too little water.
acid <- twice. not really impressive.
shrooms <- once. made the mistake of overpreparing for this experience and had a bad trip. You really need to be in the right mindset to try shrooms or you're going to get fucked.
DMT <- tried it at 2am in a boat in the middle of the lake. Wasn't impressive and smelled like a shoe store
salvia <- tried it three times. smells so bad and every time I had a bad trip so no thank you.
coke <- once, just to try. I fucking hated it. All it did was get me hyped and anxious and the sensation in my nose was like when you accidentally snort pool water.
Spice <- fuck. this. shit.

>what drugs do you use regularly?

I only smoke pot regularly and I don't drink. My friends say I'm disgustingly responsible with cannabis, as I will force you to wait until you're okay to drive or help sober you up with cold water and cracked black pepper if anyone smokes with me and I will smack extra brownies out of peoples' hands if I know they'll regret it. (my friends are the type to take one and be like "oh? I don't feel anything?" and then once they finish five brownies, it hits them too hard and they end up puking for the rest of our time together.)

No. 112817


doubleposting but funny enough I was the president of my anti-drug club in middle school. top fucking kek.

No. 112828

what kind of mental illness did mdma help you with?
I can relate to the anxiety issue. I loved the trip itself but the come down is so awful.

No. 112831


My depression, my anxiety, and my PTSD.
I knew my shit was still there, but it felt like it had all melted or faded away for a while and I felt something close to happiness? or at the very least, normalcy. It was lovely and I saw why scientists are working on using mdma to treat veterans with PTSD and mental disorders brought on by war.

The comedown was actually quite nice for me. The afterglow was so peaceful. It's even nice just thinking about it lol

and then I later found out that if I could die from drinking too much water/drinking not enough water and I was like "well that's enough of that"

No. 112832

MDMA can be pretty bad for depression though, especially if you consider that using it too often leads directly to a depressive state even in normal people, combined with the increased risk of substance abuse for people with mental illness of any kind, and it's not the smartest combo.

In a therapy setting, sure, but I wouldn't recommend just popping them at home for that reason.

No. 112833


Yeah, that's something else I found out afterwards. I got extremely lucky there. I'd never take it by myself at home frequently, like one would with weed. Only in social settings and it's been like…4-ish years since the last time I took it.

Still, got lucky that my depression didn't get worse. Not many people can say that.

No. 112847

I used to use morphine and I occasionally drink. Love opiates in general but it gets addictive real quick. One of these days I want to get my hands on some shrooms and try acid at least once just for the hell of it. I read that shrooms are supposed to help with depression so that's a bonus.

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Eh I wasn't looking to try it specifically. My friend just offered it to me. I wouldn't say my experience was bad at all on it. The moment I got scared, there was no longer any reason to be afraid.

2CE on the other hand, I got addicted to for a few months. Ordered in bulk from CanadaRC, it must have been at least a gram. Started out filling gel capsules from Vitamin Shoppe, then moved on to snorting it at least once a week. Ended up in the psych ward, had to drop out of school because they kept me there for a month and it was near finals. Got stuck in the gears of the psych industry for far too long after that.

No. 112894

sorry I mistaked 2ce for something else (psychedelic on blotter like lsd)

>I got addicted for a few months

>got stuck in the gears of the psych industry
how are you now?

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I'm no longer on medication or in therapy, getting by on just vaporizing weed. Don't have random crying fits although sometimes I find it hard to sleep. I haven't gone more than one night without sleeping again though, that's when it gets bad. I wasted too many years on big pharma's pills without getting therapy. If you've been diagnosed with a mental illness you may find therapy is all you really need. My psychiatrist told me I'd have to be on mood stabilizers for the rest of my life, and once I stopped taking them without consulting her she said I must not really be bipolar, I must just have Borderline Personality Disorder if I feel better off meds. Joke is the person who actually gave me therapy said I had made too much progress to have borderline, and the Psychiatrist never offered therapy because (DIRECT QUOTE) "it's too much drama to deal with patients' problems". DEALING WITH PROBLEMS IS HARD HERE TAKE THESE DRUGS

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No. 113060

>My psychiatrist told me I'd have to be on mood stabilizers for the rest of my life, and once I stopped taking them without consulting her she said I must not really be bipolar, I must just have Borderline Personality Disorder if I feel better off meds

Kek, this never happened. Bipolar and Borderline aren't similar at all, they don't present the same, they don't have the same symptoms, nothing.

Same with
>Joke is the person who actually gave me therapy said I had made too much progress to have borderline

People with BPD recover just fine if they're willing to do therapy, there's whole styles of therapy dedicated to treating them.

No. 113087


Bipolar and BPD have some overlapping symptoms anon. They are very similar in terms of mood instability, self-injury, suicidal ideation, mood swings, etc. That being said the "reason" for these behaviors is different and is treated differently.

I went to various doctors for many years and also was told at first i was borderline but then was later given a bipolar diagnosis. Once treated all of my "borderline traits" went away, totally new person now.

No. 113088

>Bipolar and BPD have some overlapping symptoms anon. They are very similar in terms of mood instability, self-injury, suicidal ideation, mood swings, etc. That being said the "reason" for these behaviors is different and is treated differently.

But they're not. Like, at all. Episodes of Bipolar (depressive or manic) last at least two weeks. A mood swing for BPD could last an hour, and be changed by someone assuring you that everything is fine.

>I went to various doctors for many years and also was told at first i was borderline but then was later given a bipolar diagnosis. Once treated all of my "borderline traits" went away, totally new person now.

Well, good for you, I'm glad you're doing better.

It doesn't change that Bipolar and BPD aren't at all similar. BPD has no mania present, or inherent depression. And Bipolar doesn't have any of the other features of BPD.

No. 113089

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If you don't want to believe me, it's your own fault for having such strong preconceived notions about the authority of Psychiatrists and their shit fucking industr- I mean """medical field"""

I am not >>113087

No. 113090

>Bipolar and Borderline have NOTHING in common!!! That's why studies have been conducted to reveal their distinct differences, because it is impossible to confuse one for the other!!!!!

No. 113091


>Episodes of Bipolar (depressive or manic) last at least two weeks.

Not necessarily true. Ultra rapid cycling (cycles lasting a few days) or ultradian (cycles lasting less than a day) are possible. Bipolar isn't always a perfect cycle.

Some people may cycle in a few days , then may have a week long episode later one etc. Some people may have a short 1-3 day hypomanic episode and then have it followed by months long of depressive episode etc.

BPD mood swings are largely triggered by environmental factors, whereas BP is episodic. BP swings can sometimes be triggered by environmental things, but for the most part it just happens on its own.

That being said obvs they are different but they really do have overlapping symptoms or similar ones at least.

No. 113092

>your life never happened

go away /r9k/

No. 113093

What works well for focus/energy so you can write thesis and shit ?

No. 113094


replying to this post and your previous one. I'm glad that you have found a drug that works for you (weed). I do also agree that therapy is something everyone should get if they have mental health issues. I went to professional therapy for many many years and would also "practice" CBT by myself by trying to adjust my thoughts on the daily and completing workbooks.

Obviously taking drugs or doing drugs for mental health is not inherently bad. I am a big advocate for anti-stigmatizing medications. Some people may need them a lot, others may only need them for a little while, and some many not need them at all. Brain chemistry can also change so someone who used to take something like mood stabilizers like you with good results may not need them for life.

Some doctors really do prescribe anything and wrongly, which is not ok. A lot of them are paid by certain companies to recommend or prescribe certain things so it's important to take everything with a grain of salt.

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Thank you. I had EMDR therapy mainly, I would say that was more helpful in changing my brain chemistry than the mood stabilizers were. On the mood stabilizers I was mainly just numb and/or dissociated until it was time to take my pills again at which point I'd start sobbing without provocation.

I was never told that taking them only for a little while was an option. I was told I needed to be on multiple drugs that had adverse side effects for the rest of my life. It's worse if you're inside a hospital, they can give you drugs against your will without ever telling you what they are. Once I couldn't sleep for three days so my family took me to the ER where they gave me a shot in my arm and suddenly I was no longer in the chair in the ER; I awoke in a gown on a steel slab in a room with no windows. My mom was holding my hand and kept telling me everything would be okay. A nurse escorted her out and I had terrifying hallucinations for an indeterminate period of time until I woke up again in the psych ward. They administered another involuntary injection during my stay and one of the pills they made me take gave me a seizure.

No. 113099

>my self medication is better than these researched medications and treatments because it worked for me and I have a comic!


Yes, that's what I said. That they have nothing in common. Not that they're so different in presentation and symptom that it would be essentially impossible for a trained psychiatrist to mistake them.

>Ultra rapid cycling (cycles lasting a few days) or ultradian (cycles lasting less than a day) are possible.

Do you have a source about these? I always here people talk about them existing, but from my understanding (which isn't perfect of course, I'm not a doctor so if I'm wrong here, please, link me something showing that) a manic or depressive episode must last at least two weeks, and that anything shorter doesn't count as a full episode. Yet (once again, from my understanding, if I'm wrong, links would be appreciated), a diagnosis of Bipolar requires either the presence of a depressive or (hypo)manic episodes. Anything about diagnosis of these being recognised would be appreciated.

I do recognise that Bipolar isn't a perfect cycle though, most of the time people with it are relatively normal, not in the grips of an active episode.

>BPD mood swings are largely triggered by environmental factors, whereas BP is episodic. BP swings can sometimes be triggered by environmental things, but for the most part it just happens on its own.

Nah, BPD mood swings are almost always triggered by something. Whether that be something that actually happened, or something that they assumed happened is a whole different matter though.

>That being said obvs they are different but they really do have overlapping symptoms or similar ones at least.

There's some similarities, sure, but they're really superficial, and any more understanding of either disorder shows that they really aren't at all that related, apart from both including mood fluctuation of some sort.

I appreciate you discussing this though, even if we don't entirely agree.

Come on, you could at least tone down the samefagging a little bit. Not everyone who disagrees with you is /r9k/, and I don't think anything I said suggested I was.

I agree almost completely with this post, though I'd advocate people are hesitant with trying drugs with potential for recreational use to fix their issues, as that leads really easily to addiction.

As far as I know though, the whole "paid off by muh big pharma!" is almost exclusively an American thing. Ads for medications of any sort except for like paracetamol or cough medicine are illegal in my country, for example, and we're relatively well known (Aus).

No. 113100

Apologies, I misread the discussion of BPD and BP episodes as it all being about BPD. I agree completely with that section, BP episodes can be set off by shit, but generally aren't.

No. 113106

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I don't care about anything you have to say because you literally said that events that occurred in my life never happened. You have NO idea what it's like being admitted to an American mental hospital against your will, what it's like afterwards. Shut the fuck up.

No. 113108

I said that the events in your life never happened because they obviously didn't, retard. No psychiatrist will go "Oh, you got better without medications? Must have been this unrelated disorder, instead of you just simply getting better like people sometimes do for seemingly no reason".

It's kind of hard to play it off as not caring about what I say when you samefagged several responses to me, by the way.

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Nothing you say will change what happened. Have you ever even been to the USA?


>If you have bipolar disorder, you may need to take medication indefinitely and possibly for the rest of your life.

First fucking sentence.


It must be nice over there in Australia.

No. 113110

>If you have bipolar disorder, you may need to take medication indefinitely and possibly for the rest of your life.

I never denied this?

I denied this part
>once I stopped taking them without consulting her she said I must not really be bipolar, I must just have Borderline Personality Disorder if I feel better off meds

>Joke is the person who actually gave me therapy said I had made too much progress to have borderline

Because they are completely nonsensical, ignore the basic nature of both disorders, and show that you're talking from an amateur perspective of both what they are, and treatable they are.

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>a doctor would never attempt to justify having told you that you would need medication for the rest of your life after being wrong

>a therapist would never tell their patient that their treatment had been successful

Tell me anon, what did Dr. Castellanos actually say to me when I stopped taking meds without consulting her??? :)

No. 113112

>a doctor would never attempt to justify having told you that you would need medication for the rest of your life after being wrong

I really doubt a psychiatrist would go "Oh, you're in a state where you aren't displaying active symptoms? It must have been this almost completely unrelated disorder". You realise that bipolar can go years without active episodes for seemingly no reason, right? And that, as I said, it presents absolutely nothing like BPD?

>a therapist would never tell their patient that their treatment had been successful

That's not what I said at all though. I said a therapist wouldn't go "Oh no, couldn't be BPD, you've gotten better!", because people with BPD are absolutely capable of getting better.

>Tell me anon, what did Dr. Castellanos actually say to me when I stopped taking meds without consulting her???

Wow gee you sure showed me by asking an impossible to answer question for me that doesn't actually support what you're saying or refute what I'm saying.

Hey, while we're at it, what did I eat for dinner last night? If you can't answer, I'm right, just by the way.

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That's not what she said at all. Before I stopped taking the medication, I asked her if I should do it because I was still having symptoms (random dissociation and crying) on the medication. She said that was a bad idea because she had a patient with Bipolar Type I who stopped taking his medication after 20 years of being on it and soon after he stopped the regimen he had a manic episode and pushed his wife in a restaurant.

I asked her if I could stop taking medication after spending 4 years on different combinations, after once having been on so much Latuda that I started having involuntary muscle tremors, and I was still hearing voices, still crying, still having anxiety attacks.

I stopped taking them without consulting anyone. When I told her about it at the next appointment she initially tried to get me to get back on the medication. Then she asked me what my worst manic incident was so I told her about that one time with the gun. She said that she wasn't sure because she didn't know the whole story but it seemed like my problem was actually poor impulse control related to childhood trauma, from what she had seen between me and my family when they used to insist on sitting in during sessions. She said to ask my therapist if I had borderline because that can cause psychosis and mood swings as well.

My therapist did not tell me I could not possibly ever have had borderline, she said I didn't have BPD BECAUSE I had gotten better. See, she's not an MD, so she has no incentive to tell a healthy person that they are sick.

BTW you're lying, you didn't have dinner last night. How does that feel?

No. 113114

>I stopped taking them without consulting anyone. When I told her about it at the next appointment she initially tried to get me to get back on the medication. Then she asked me what my worst manic incident was so I told her about that one time with the gun. She said that she wasn't sure because she didn't know the whole story but it seemed like my problem was actually poor impulse control related to childhood trauma, from what she had seen between me and my family when they used to insist on sitting in during sessions. She said to ask my therapist if I had borderline because that can cause psychosis and mood swings as well.

So, to put it in a more accurate way, you misrepresented your episodes to your psychiatrist, and then bitched when they got it wrong?

That's actually even better than what I said.

And either way, no-one went "Oh, you're better without medication? Must be borderline", like you said, you just explained it more accurately to them and they asked if your therapist had ever asked you about another disorder.

Why lie anon? I get you think that muh big pharma is out to get you, but why intentionally misrepresent your story to try to convince others to do what you think is right? You didn't have Bipolar, and you going around and telling people you did and that weed cured it is just going to hurt people. It's legal in plenty of places. If it helped Bipolar, it would be a recognised treatment in those places for it. It isn't, because it doesn't, and it can be directly harmful for them.

>she said I didn't have BPD BECAUSE I had gotten better.

Which is, like the rest of your story, a load of shit. People with BPD do react to therapy. They react better to some forms than others, but if they're willing to do it, they can improve from basic CBT.

Or are you trying to claim that they're now going you don't have BPD because you just recovered from it without anyone knowing you had it and your doctor was actually trying to trick you into muh big pharma schemes all along?

>BTW you're lying, you didn't have dinner last night. How does that feel?

Feels like the leftovers I just finished were very unfulfilling, what with them not being there and all.

No. 113116

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I didn't misrepresent JACK SHIT to ANYONE.

I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder by hospital staff after being admitted for not sleeping for three days. I would say being unable to sleep for three days despite wanting to is a pretty clear sign of mania.

My private Psychiatrist said that if I were truly Bipolar I would have felt better on the medication and that it was impossible for me to be bipolar if I felt I could function without it.

The therapist never said I never had BPD. She said I had improved too much for me to currently have it at this moment in time.

There are studies showing that it can be directly helpful for people with bipolar disorder, actually.

>muh memes


Try having something other than ignorance for dinner.

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No. 113138

>I didn't misrepresent JACK SHIT to ANYONE.


>I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder by hospital staff after being admitted for not sleeping for three days. I would say being unable to sleep for three days despite wanting to is a pretty clear sign of mania.

It's a clear sign of distress, you can't be in a full manic episode within three days though. Maybe you heard them mention Bipolar, but you clearly weren't diagnosed.

>There are studies showing that it can be directly helpful for people with bipolar disorder, actually.

Why don't you link them then? I'd be interested in reading how a substance with potential for recreational use and abuse is at all recommended for someone with a fragile already mental state.

Seriously though, take off the tin foil hat. Big pharma isn't out to get you, you weren't tricked by your doctor or some shit, you just clearly misrepresented what you were going through severely, and they made the wrong choice as a result.

There's literally dozens of studies showing how medications can help people, you sperging out about them doesn't change that.

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The hospital gave me papers that said I had bipolar and explained what it was. I don't have them because it was over three years ago.

Me sperging out? What about the confessions of all the people who used to work in this industry? John Virapen is just a 'sperging' lying quack, right?

>Why don't you link them then?

I've been accused of "linking things too often" in arguments a lot. I'm glad you're at least willing to look at these, although it doesn't seem like you looked at my other sources either.




Unfortunately marijuana remains a schedule I drug federally despite the FDA recommending otherwise to the DEA.

Just because medications CAN help people doesn't mean that people SHOULD take them. At the very least doctors shouldn't tell a bipolar person that they will have to be medicated indefinitely for the rest of their lives, I have a UK schizoaffective friend and she said she was on meds for a while but the doctor never told her she'd have to be on them forever. And schizoaffective symptoms are supposedly worse in some aspects.

No. 113142

>The hospital gave me papers that said I had bipolar and explained what it was. I don't have them because it was over three years ago.



This just says they think a bit clearer, not that it helps with the actual symptoms of Bipolar. Neurocognitive impairment isn't the thing someone with Bipolar needs to focus on handling (generally). They need to focus on stopping the cycle of manic and depressive states.


Same as above.


This doesn't really say anything about whether it helps or not, though I do agree with the content that more research could be useful.

My point as to why it's not so helpful is that (ignoring that there's been links drawn to emergence of psychosis), it is by its nature a recreational substance. People with mental health issues are at a far increased risk of substance abuse than the general population, and even if it does make them feel better, the risk for developing a dependence on it to cope with your issues at all, which does lead to tolerance (can't exactly take a t break when you're in crisis), which does lead to situations where you just end up back where you were before at best, with less money. More likely though, you'd also have the symptoms that abuse of cannabis does carry.

It's the same reason why they don't give everyone who has stress benzo's. Sure, they do work, they work exceptionally well at what they're meant to do. But it's way too easy to develop a dependence on them and end up with an addiction to it and not learned anything about how to manage your particular issues.

And until there are studies that show that it does help with the potentially dangerous symptoms of Bipolar, I think it's harmful to tell people not to take medication and just to smoke forever.

You may not have had Bipolar, and in your case, it's great it helped you. But for someone who does, they're going to need more than a joint here or there to recover.

>Just because medications CAN help people doesn't mean that people SHOULD take them.

Agree completely. There's paths that should be followed first. Though I don't really think there's a difference between having to smoke pot forever to be okay and having to take a pill at night to be okay, in both cases you're relying on drug therapy forever.

>t the very least doctors shouldn't tell a bipolar person that they will have to be medicated indefinitely for the rest of their lives, I have a UK schizoaffective friend and she said she was on meds for a while but the doctor never told her she'd have to be on them forever.

I can't talk to this, I've at most had a doctor say it's something that potentially might have to be taken forever, but that to come back in a few months and review how things were going then.

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Look, I don't believe I ever said "dude just do weed every day and you'll be fine ayy lmao fam". I just wanted to share my personal experiences because I got asked to elaborate on them.

I personally found LSD to be much more helpful than marijuana in that it allowed me to objectively examine myself without shying away from unpleasant thoughts.

I shared a link to a study done in the UK this year on LSD that indicates that it may have therapeutic potential for treatment resistant depression and PTSD in particular. But I believe it should be schedule II and taken under the care of a trusted therapist, not sold over the counter under any circumstances and always taken in a very controlled environment. I don't think people should "trip" more than once or twice a year.

> Though I don't really think there's a difference between having to smoke pot forever to be okay and having to take a pill at night to be okay, in both cases you're relying on drug therapy forever.

That's true in a sense, except marijuana doesn't have any of the harmful side effects that the drugs I was on have. Latuda, a mood stabilizer that is the only FDA approved drug to treat bipolar depression, changed the way my body processed carbohydrates. I became overweight for my height on the BMI by about 5lbs, so I started taking Topiramate, an anti-seizure medication that causes short term memory loss, for its side effect of weight loss. It is funny to me that you say

>they don't give everyone who has stress benzo's

because my Psychiatrist knew full well about my history of drug use and prescribed me .5mg of Lorazepam for anxiety. It's ironic because I'm the crazy anon hippie druggie poster right? But I have a whole bottle of Lorazepam in a drawer that I don't even want to take because I transcended the need to take it for anxiety and the side effects are fucking horrible anyway. Oh, and I was prescribed Temazepam, another benzo, so I could sleep at night, right? And my mother actually was the one who told me not to take it too often for sleep because she had read online that it could cause serious kidney problems.

Marijuana doesn't hurt your kidneys and intoxicates less than alcohol (multiple Olympic athletes have competed with marijuana in their bloodstream, look up Ross Rebagliati).

Honestly I would advise everyone against smoking ANYTHING every day. If you're going to get potted up on weed every day, cannabis oil or cannabis vaporization are the healthiest ways to do it.

I don't think everyone should do this. But for instance; someone in my family has diabetic neuropathy, and I think maybe if the vote passes in our state this November, patients like him would see a huge improvement, at least in quality of life. Right now he drinks alcohol to be able to fall asleep, except white wine is fucking loaded with sugar. There's research showing marijuana helps with this exact problem: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00781001

The only thing that I would universally recommend to everyone, even if they have never had a diagnosis of a mental illness, is therapy. I can't personally speak to the effectiveness of CBT, but EMDR was really helpful in helping to reprocess trauma for me personally.

It seems like we might actually agree on more things than not.

I just want people to make informed decisions. Question everything. Peace be with you.

No. 113156

>I shared a link to a study done in the UK this year on LSD that indicates that it may have therapeutic potential for treatment resistant depression and PTSD in particular. But I believe it should be schedule II and taken under the care of a trusted therapist, not sold over the counter under any circumstances and always taken in a very controlled environment.

Yep, I agree completely. It seems to have some use as a therapeutic tool, but not just as a cure you take yourself.

>Latuda, a mood stabilizer that is the only FDA approved drug to treat bipolar depression

I've been on it, but from memory, Latuda is primarily an anti-psychotic medication that also seems to help with depression in Bipolar patients. There's lots of meds that help with depression in them, it's just relatively unique because it does both pretty well.

> It's ironic because I'm the crazy anon hippie druggie poster right? But I have a whole bottle of Lorazepam in a drawer that I don't even want to take because I transcended the need to take it for anxiety and the side effects are fucking horrible anyway. Oh, and I was prescribed Temazepam, another benzo, so I could sleep at night, right?

Okay? It still stands that they don't give everyone who's got anxiety benzo's, they're heavily restricted medications.

In my country, alprazolam is one of the absolute hardest medications to get prescribed, to the point where doctors have to go out of their way to get special licensing to be able to give a script for longer than a month of it, and it's controlled by a central office (pharmacy must contact them to make sure the script's been approved). People still get it, but it's rare.

>Marijuana doesn't hurt your kidneys and intoxicates less than alcohol (multiple Olympic athletes have competed with marijuana in their bloodstream, look up Ross Rebagliati).

Intoxicates less than alcohol isn't much of a statement, though I get what you're saying.

Someone who's drank too much can be just as fucked up as some junkie who's nodding.

>Honestly I would advise everyone against smoking ANYTHING every day. If you're going to get potted up on weed every day, cannabis oil or cannabis vaporization are the healthiest ways to do it.

I'd advice against use of anything that's not prescribed every day really. Drugs like that (With recreational usages I mean) should be used when you absolutely need to. To use the example of benzo's again, if you get a script for, say alprazolam for panic disorder, you're not meant to take that whenever you're stressed, or whenever you have a panic attack. It's for when you're in crisis.

Same goes for pot. If you're going to self medicate with something like that, it's incredibly important to realise that addiction does form really easily, and self medication has led fucking heaps of people from just smoking sometimes, to smoking all the time, to taking benzos, and then you're dealing with potential fatal wd's from that.

It's a very fraught path to take, especially when there are non-addictive options that don't have recreational uses.

>The only thing that I would universally recommend to everyone, even if they have never had a diagnosis of a mental illness, is therapy. I can't personally speak to the effectiveness of CBT, but EMDR was really helpful in helping to reprocess trauma for me personally.

Yep, once again, I agree completely. You don't need a mental illness diagnosis to do therapy (and it's honestly next to impossible to diagnose someone without them regularly consulting a therapist), and it should absolutely be your first choice if you're struggling, not medication.

People are too eager to just take a pill and fix everything, and not have to possibly work on themselves, or confront intense things like traumatic events, or changing major parts about how they live day to day.

>It seems like we might actually agree on more things than not.

>I just want people to make informed decisions.

Yep, I agree. My main issue was that it seemed like you were coming across as "I'm Bipolar and weed cured me! Don't take your medications, just smoke week, it's a magic cure". But it doesn't seem that way, and I agree with what you're saying generally.

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Latuda helped with psychosis when it was really bad, but it never really did anything about the depression/crying fits and it had other awful side effects. When I was at the highest dose (120mg when i'm pretty short) I had really intense muscle tremors where I couldn't move because I was twitching so hard.

My psychiatrist told me I couldn't be on regular SSRIs or MAOIs because they had a chance of making me manic.

>If you're going to self medicate with something like that, it's incredibly important to realise that addiction does form really easily, and self medication has led fucking heaps of people from just smoking sometimes, to smoking all the time, to taking benzos, and then you're dealing with potential fatal wd's from that.

I agree that benzos are terrible from both a health stand-point and a recreational high stand-point. But as I said, I have had a full bottle of Lorazepam for months since I stopped taking all prescription meds. I abused it recreationally a few times but I eventually started getting pretty bad nausea when I would only take 1.5mg at most. I don't want to take it even at the prescribed dose anymore. Benzos are terrible.

My first high and my first drug of choice was not marijuana, but benadryl. Fucking benadryl has a recreational use and I got addicted for a short period of time in my childhood, no joke. I'd rather someone my age back then smoke weed than do benadryl. Benadryl was available to me over the counter.

Nah, therapy cured me not weed. Meditation, talk therapy, private mantras, etc. I'm really grateful to have people that love me who pushed me to get therapy.

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I've done weed, a couple different stims, Benadryl, Dex, and methadone (w/o my consent).

Right now I have a prescription for offbrand Lexapro and Vyvanse. Used to take Wellbutrin, but found I leveled off pretty rapidly on it w/o much energy payoff. The Vyvanse is immensely better but I think I'll be forced to take breaks to keep my body from getting too used to it. I can bear to go to my stressful job and I don't cry anymore, wouldn't want to quit these drugs anytime soon. Sidenote: I tried Adderall from a friend once but coincidentally I got an insane inner ear infection literally the same day so I don't remember experiencing anything significant bc I was sick as a dog.

Before I went on these pills, I self-medicated with weed. When I lived in a blue state weed was a lot easier to obtain and I found myself indulging recreationally at least a week or two continuously every month. It really helped my stress and anxiety during grad school, and helped ease my existential dread. It curved my eating disorder and helped me sleep when I needed to.
Music and animation were wonderful while high.
These days, living in a red state, I never get any weed and my bf is hesitant to help me. So…whatever I guess. It really is my favorite drug though. I'm convinced if I had it I wouldn't need the Lexapro or the stims.

Tbh Dex and Benadryl are probably the most stupid drugs I've ever taken in excess and would never try again. I took such a retarded dose of Benadryl I'm surprised I didn't do major damage. Seriously I probably had in excess of 2000mg within 16 hours. I was seeing spiders, felt "rolling" sensations over my brain, and had strange ticks.

My list of to-trys:
Curious about Salvia but idk.

Would never bother to try coke. Refuse to do meth and most opiod pain killers.

No. 113160

>Latuda helped with psychosis when it was really bad, but it never really did anything about the depression/crying fits and it had other awful side effects. When I was at the highest dose (120mg when i'm pretty short) I had really intense muscle tremors where I couldn't move because I was twitching so hard.

Yeah, didn't help with either for me, just make me dizzy and disoriented. But still, from memory it's primarily an anti-psychotic.

>I agree that benzos are terrible from both a health stand-point and a recreational high stand-point. But as I said, I have had a full bottle of Lorazepam for months since I stopped taking all prescription meds

Yeah, and that might be the case for you, but I'd still say that self medication is a risky path for anyone to go down, because it turns from just sometimes when it's justified to a full blown addiction very quickly, and you don't notice it's happening the whole time, it seems justified.

>My first high and my first drug of choice was not marijuana, but benadryl. Fucking benadryl has a recreational use and I got addicted for a short period of time in my childhood, no joke. I'd rather someone my age back then smoke weed than do benadryl. Benadryl was available to me over the counter.

Yeah, over the counter highs are an issue too, but I don't really think I've heard of many people getting hooked on benadryl or dxm or something.

But yeah, I agree with you about therapy. It's the most important part of any recovery process, and should definitely be used before meds are even thought about, excluding very specific situations (active psychosis or mania for example).

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hash and/or booze usually every weekend. psilocybin shrooms maybe once or twice a year. i want to try coke…

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dex is my fuckin life. you got to lay in the dark and listen to music to get the most out of it. i always feel dreamy like im floating in space or like im an alien and my body is my vessel in this strange dimension. it also helps to be thoughtful throughout the day by questioning life and existence

No. 120206

How the fuck do you not itch your eyes off?
My experience with dex was such garbage and it's not like I didn't dig for any research beforehand. I saw posts saying that there might be some itchiness but fuck me if that wasn't an understatement.

I itched myself raw and was basically incapacitated/nauseous for an entire day. Additionally I was so damn high I don't remember a lot of the trip. And I only know that because my high ass decided to record myself because I had no trip sitter, so I found that I said and did shit on video that I don't even remember doing. Freaky shit.

No. 120211

i dont get robo itch but i hear taking benadryl an hour beforehand helps with the itching and nausea so that sounds perfect for you. theres warnings not to take non-drowsy antihistamines (like zyrtec and claritin) with dxm so make sure you dont substitute with those. eating too much or too little before your trip also has a major effect on nausea. try eating some crackers before a trip and stay away from large or greasy meals.

being unable to remember the trip has something to do with an individual's brain chemistry. it's strange but common. out of curiosity, how many mgs did you take? if you're ever willing to try again, maybe take a smaller dose? the lower plateaus are just as worth exploring as the higher ones. dxm is so diverse and effects everyone in a variety of ways but the littlest things will make a big impact.

No. 120212

Weed, mushrooms, LSD, unknown RCs, mdma, mda, amphetamines, coke, probably meth, inhalents (I was a retarded teenager), tramodol, benzos, opiates, and heroin.

I really want to try DMT, but I'm waiting for the right time.

I drink everyday. I trip about once a month. I used to use valium a lot, but i don't need a benzo addiction. i still take molly at shows and clubs frequently. And I don't think anyone here would consider kava root or kratom to be drugs, but I use those a few times a week.

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>smoked hash for the first time

>Take Ecstasy



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Drugs are bad for you.

No. 120246

finally someone said it.

No. 120249

does anyone else have experience with migraines/weed? i have migraines where i see a lot of spots and have severe pain and get very confused (don't know who i am/where i am/who others are/have trouble talking/understanding when people talk to me). i've seen a neurologist for 8 years and i've tried sooo many medications but nothing works.

i had 2 edibles while i was having a migraine and it basically numbed the pain and the spots kinda moved to the far left of my vision so i could pretty much go about my day like a normal person. kinda want to look into a medical marijuana card but i'm on my mom's insurance and don't want her freaking out.

No. 120288

b-b-but i want to be like the cool kids

But in all honesty it feels really good after vomiting

No. 120305

Anyone had bad experiences with spice/k2/synthetic? Or whatever they call it in your region. I wouldn't ever touch that stuff but I do spend a lot of time watching youtube videos of people going crazy/acting retarded or like zombies in public on it. I find it fascinating. Also entertaining. There was a bad batch of it not long ago in my town and the "spice zombies" made front page news.

No. 120306

The spice melange?

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420 everyday. I wanna try shrooms, but I fall on the schizo umbrella and worried I'll lose connection with reality. :/

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I miss pills so bad. I've done a lot of drugs, but I can't shake how much I crave opiates.

I went to rehab years ago and now only really do them sometimes when the opportunity presents itself, but I know I'd get back addicted to it in a second if I had the money/connects. I'm an alcoholic now and it's just made me fat and I hate that.

I usually smoke weed to help me sleep, chill out at night, but I stopped last month for a job-related drug test I might be getting soon.

No. 120380

i've done spice on two different occasions.

first time when i was 15 in a social setting. i don't remember much of it but i had a good time and nobody was acting weird or crazy. just really amused and zoned out.

second when i was 18 and i did it alone. way less fun and a bit unsettling. personally, it feels like getting too intensely high on weed with some dissociation mixed in.

definitely not something i would intentionally seek out in the future.

No. 120395

I had a couple friends back in high school who were really into it but one time, one of the guys had an insanely bad trip on it where he got sick and was throwing up in the toilet, but he thought he was puking out massive amounts of his own guts and blood and thought it was flooding out of the toilet and starting to fill up the bathroom and drown him and he started screaming like hell. Never heard of anyone else having such a bad experience but I won't go near it because of that and neither will those guys anymore since that incident

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lmao I smoked that shit when I was 18 too

I had brought real cannabis to smoke and my friend had said he'd match my contribution but he had brought a "spice" called "Mr. Nice Guy" instead….

long story short the girl he and I were smoking with became nonverbal and acted extremely strange, throwing dead leaves at herself and rolling on the floor…

we were at school at the time, it was our lunch break and we had gone off campus. we needed to get back before class.

we got her in the car safely, she seemed to calm down. when we got her to the parking lot at school we thought everything was cool but she threw herself on the asphalt and started making animal noises and masturbating so that drew a crowd and we all almost didn't fucking graduate

she had to go to the hospital and apparently almost died or something

but they let us get our diplomas because the spice was legal.

Guess they didn't know I had brought actual cannabis to the park, oops.


No. 120991

Where are you from? Where I live mr. Nice guy is extremely popular, I haven't encountered the name outside of country.
The people I know who smoked this regularly had to be locked up in a closed psychiatric hospital because they became psychotic.

I know a guy who works at the narcotics department at the police, he said this thing is made from tea leaves, soaked in repellent products, dried and then soaked again. I don't remember really the details but I think you can guess this drug is just chemical garbage.

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My ol' art buddy knows I'm super stressed and broke (due to college related shit)
So he was a champ and just gave me a decently big bud, which made me happy as hell cause anxiety yo.
Anyways smoked that shit yesterday and it was the highest ive been since i took my first bong hit (given it was a giant glass bong) Ended up using the little money i had left to buy new underwear cause previously I had been too worried about other finances to allow myself that shit.
Cannabis is forever a best bro letting me get new bras n shit while i listen to my fave tunes.

No. 121038

I've been smoking indica for the past 6 months due to the fact that sativa fucked with my anti psychotic.

Now that I'm no longer on that shit I worked up the courage and got a sativa wax pen. It's like being high for the first time.

Like, what the fuck have I been doing?

No. 121154

This is going to sound dumb as fuck but where do you even get good shit? I want to take lsd, shrooms, anything that'll give me funky hallucinations. I'm fulltime NEET and have no friends so I have no idea how to get things.

No. 121212

well, get some friends for starters. connections really matter. if it gets to where you could actually buy stuff, you never know if a stranger is selling you want you actually want or if its laced.

No. 121224

You can grow shrooms yourself, just buy the spores online for "research" purposes. They even have full kits you can buy.

Or join your local mushroom hunting group. They won't let you keep the trippy ones, but then you'll learn where they are.

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>Where are you from?

Miami, Florida. I think the popular crazy drug here is called "flakka" now, basically a tweaked version of Mr. Nice Guy or something. People smoke it and strip naked inside banks and shit, kek.

A guilty pleasure of mine is that I enjoy watching videos of people on crazy drugs like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r3MT-51jas

No. 121228

dark web yo. delivered straight to your door. do your research on using tor and bitcoin etc.

though it's a good idea to get some friends even just so you have a sitter. maybe post on a psychedelics subreddit and ask for friends and introductions locally (without sounding like a narc if possible)? acid freaks tend to be super nice and open so if you just posted your location and said you want to trip it might work out

No. 121229

I had a really nice time microdosing on LSD and I'd like to try microdosing DMT (besides full-on meet-the-aliens heroic doses).
I'm interested because I'm on sertraline and the side effects are so heavy and I hate it and want to come off. DMT (from what I've briefly read) is seretogenic and seems like it will make the ramping down easier, probably will help with the psychological aspects too. Also way cheaper and easier to obtain than LSD.
Any experiences?

No. 121231

For NEETs, darknet all the way. I suggest heading to reddit and reading up on that through their popular darknet subs

No. 121234

I use pot and heroin regularly, however I'm not addicted to the heroin. My partner and I have managed to balance somewhat regular use with not being addicted, at least not to the point of experiencing any withdrawal symptoms. Blessed.
Pot helps a lot of things and has facilitated sleep for me for the last few years and while I'm still dependent my use is starting to dwindle, I hope.

Should also be going on a ketamine binge soon, mite b fun (of course it will)

No. 121249

>use heroin somewhat regularly
>But I'm not addicted though!

You realise that addicts everywhere say that same shit right? That they control it, they can stop whenever they want, that they're totally different?

Addiction is almost completely mental, not getting withdrawals doesn't mean you aren't hooked.

No. 121257

>uses heroin regularly
>psychological dependence on pot

Bro, stop while you're ahead. Honestly.

No. 121258

just be careful you don't get serotonin syndrome, anon. good luck.

No. 121259

Mixing psychedelics and SSRIs is usually a bad idea. All classic psychedelics are serotonergic. Best case you'll feel almost nothing, worst case you'll get a really bad combination.

No. 121306

I've done weed, lsd, coke, 2CB, ecstasy.

Weed is fine but i don't like the munchies (ana-chan here)
LSD was my fave until it was impossible to get something decent in my city, i didn't want to take the risk.
I hate coke well…perico, it wears off so fast and it gets me in a bad mood.
And definitely love ecstasy to the core of my heart, is the best but sometimes but i get so depressed D: the comedown its the worst.

Want to try snorting some MDMA but i think


is pretty normal to feel nausea or to vomit with x…maybe try to eat well before you take it, every time i feel nauseous is because i haven't eating properly. Or simply you are taking too much.

No. 121308


samefag but omg i love watching those videos too!! in my country there's something "similar" called bazuco but not that crazy.

No. 121310

the mechanism of psychedelics is very different from SSRIs, so they won't treat antidepressant withdrawal (although they might help on a psychological level). and like >>121259 said, SSRIs usually weaken the effects of psychedelics, they effectively desensitize your serotonin receptors. although if you were able to trip on acid before it will probably be fine.

No. 121326

Thanks anon, I did consider that, but I thought that consistently lowering the dose of one drug and microdosing of the other would mean that at the very most, my serotonin level would remain constant.
My long-term goal with this is to normalise my serotonin receptors and not be reliant on such blunt-force meds.
Actually didn't get the opportunity for a full scale trip on acid, but I had what was probably more than a microdose, since everything looked prettier and I experienced slight euphoria. My point is, the reaction seemed normal, so I'm hopeful for this DMT experiment.

No. 121327

I'm super looking forward to my batch of weed honey that's been steeping for a long while now. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of edible for very low, everyday, medicinal doses? Anti-anxiety, sleep troubles etc

No. 121328

Hey anon here's a guide to buying shit off the dark net. Good luck and find yourself a sitter

No. 121333

>I'm fulltime NEET
Kill yourself, parasite

No. 121336

>what drugs have you done
Opiates (prescription pills)
Heroin (Intravenous and snorted)
MDMA (rock & pressed pills)

>what drugs do you use regularly


I've done a lot of "hard" drugs but never really had any addiction problems? I guess I'm just too flakey to even become an addict haha. I always have a blast on Xanax and my DMT experience was one of the most interesting moments of my life. I would say I had a positive experience with almost all of the drugs I've tried except meth, and heroin. Something about opiates make me puke my brains out, I just don't get the hype.

No. 172182

You're probably dosing too heavy if any opiates make you puke, a little bit of nausea is likely, but you shouldn't be throwing up if you're smart about it.

No. 172591

I wish I had the money and a good dealer to smoke weed everyday. :(

No. 173645

There is every chance that the person you're replying to is addicted but the logic you just used to determine that implies that pretty much everyone who uses drugs is addicted to them, which is wrong and dumb.

No. 173646

Can't believe that this thread is still around, but I'm the person you're replying to, and my issue wasn't with people saying exercise is good for depression (I know it is), but with them saying it was more effective than antidepressants.
I'd encourage anyone to exercise whether they were depressed or not

No. 173648

DMT is my ultimate goal, but I'm too chickenshit to fuck around with the dark net and it's impossible to find irl where I am

No. 173675

>tfw have to be nice to people you cant stand because they're your drug source

No. 174286

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Anyone else like to create art while under the influence even if you're just smoking some dope or relaxing with a beer? One trip, on a certain dissociative, I was captivated by psychedelic artwork after depression turned me off from drawing for years and it's gotten me into art again, completely changing my work for the better. Nothing more euphoric than opiates, listening to my favourite tunes, and turning a sketch into a personal masterpiece. It's like I have some sort of creative bone in my body again.

I've also been interested in trip journals and keeping a log of how I feel/what I'm thinking while I'm out of my mind but haven't quite gotten around to buying a journal yet. I saw some cute decorated journals on tumblr and now I really want to get my hands on a bunch of craft stuff so I can personalize it too.

No. 188158

>What drugs have you done?
Marihuana and some strong sleeping pills of a friend of mine. Never again.

>What drugs do you use regularly?

I smoke marihuana (microdoses) maybe two or three times a week if i'm having trouble sleeping or if i'm too anxious. I use for recreational proposes in the weekend because is cheaper than alcohol in my country

I want to try mushrooms 'cause a friend told me is something very similar to marihuana. I also want to try coke, MDMA and acid but i'm a chicken.

No. 188166

I have done everything except ketamine and heroin. I have a high tolerance to stims so I'm trying to take a break

No. 188187

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>when you bump the thread to tell people you smoked grass

No. 188389

I've never done any drugs except alcohol (which I love and I would do more of if it didn't make you fat) but I would love to try coke. Is it true cokeheads are usually assholes tho?

No. 188391

Yeah, because coke turns you in to a shitty person? Is this a joke? Don't do coke. I mean do it if you want to. Say goodbye to your cash, health, friends, and dignity though. Just saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are better drugs out there.

No. 188396

Generally, yeah, cokeheads are assholes because they're by definition addicts and the drug can make you really aggressive/full of yourself

I feel like you and I are on an eternal battle over this, "don't do coke"-anon. I've done coke a thousand times, even did it daily for almost a whole year and never got to losing dignity, friends or cash (can't say the same about health, my nose bled constantly). Never got addicted. I like alcohol a hell of a lot more than coke tbh.

No. 188405

I don't want to be a dick but
>did it daily for almost a whole year
>Never got addicted


No. 188406

In a way though I get what they're saying. It's kinda hard to have a hardcore addiction to yayo. It's too expensive and the tolerance goes away so quickly. If you do enough uppers they eventually will just feel like a cup of coffee. They probably just gave up chasing the high. Cuz it's easy to do that. Other shit withdrawals are a bitch

No. 188407

I moved to a new town, and always got my contacts through friends. How on earth I'm I supposed to get some weed and molly here? ;_;

I think I need to use the Onion, but somehow I also want to know someone I can go spontaneous and regularly to.

No. 188409

I've done a literal shit ton of drugs. To the point where people generally don't believe me, so I don't even talk about it except to best friends.

I'd estimate I've done about 60+ different drugs. All the regular street ones minus crack, meth and heroin (but I did do the pharma analogues) and research chemicals out the ass.

I had to stop because I had to get my shit together eventually. Lately I only do dissociatives like ketamine and pcp analogues, sometimes psychedelics…only when I have the time. Work and bills and life really get in the way of fun that's for sure.

No. 188410

I only smoke weed and drink, thats it. Weed does nothing for me, just makes me tired and gives me headaches, which is a shame bc i started smoking hoping it would help my anxiety but it does fuck all I sort of feel like im doing something wrong? The only time it did anything for me was at party when I took like 4 pulls and stared at a disco light for an hour, convinced it was blinking in time with the music. I smoke about once a week or so just socially now. I dont even drink often at all, but if I do its whiskey shots, drinking makes me confident but I hate it, I always end doing embarrassing shit and I hate drinking culture.

I always said I would stay clear of drugs but my anxiety and depression is getting so terrible lately Id love to just take my mind of things even for just half an hour. Where I live booze weed and nos are standard at pretty much all partys, but last weekend I went out with a friend who is into harder stuff, she offered me MD and coke to try and help me of the depressive mood I was in but I turned her down, I kind of wish I had said yes to the coke tho. She thinks Id like ketamine but Ive seen the film party monster and I dont want to end up like that lmao

No. 188415

When I was 16 i smoked for almost a year and a half on and off. When I wasn't on t breaks it would be at least once a day up to three. I kind of blame my boyfriend for pushing me so much since he's a pot head and it's a social thing with all his friends but it was really my decision. From 17-19 (now) I smoke maybe once every two months. I'm so busy I usually don't have time to unwind. Weed started giving me headaches, made my tummy hurt and made me feel super dehydrated and tired even though I drank enough water to piss a waterfall once ever 45 minutes. I used to love it but now all I do is take 4 vape hits and relax late at night.

I still enjoy drinking but again, somehow I can never find the time. I'm bad at chugging as well so if I don't drink fast enough I just fall asleep.

Drinking is pretty fun and makes your bed and peeing feel like heaven but other than that I honestly never think about them much.

I used to rely on weed so much that now I find it easier to be sober. Also weed made me trip out way too much. I'd get too far into concepts and would go down the rabbit hole of my own mind until my boyfriend would snap me out of it.

No. 188422

I read a story about a girl going to her dealer's house alone and the dealer ended up asking her for sex in exchange for drugs. How often does this happen?

No. 188428

>Weed does nothing for me, just makes me tired and gives me headaches, which is a shame bc i started smoking hoping it would help my anxiety but it does fuck all I sort of feel like im doing something wrong?

Maybe try different strains. And make sure you're actually inhaling it.

No. 188454

Why do you even smoke socially if it makes you tired and gives you headaches?

No. 188460

Drugs done?
Ehh my memory is shitty but..
-pretty much all opiods but never touched heroin/fentanyl. Shot up dilaudid several times but shooting up is NOT my thing. And one of my best friends died from shooting up fentanyl so no thanks
-xanax, klonopin, ativan
-cough syrup and corocidin (terrible)
-weed/spice (one time for spice fuck that)
-air duster/whippits (also terrible)
-adderall/focalin, other uppers (no crack or meth or harder shit)
-ambien (why)

As for the one I got addicted to, and the reason for my now shitty memory is Xanax. Idk why. It started back in 2014 when I broke up with my gf of 3 years (first "serious" relationship and she cheated on me with another girl the whole time and I knew but kept taking her back cuz I was naive and she was sooo convincing, promising to change..) and I was so fucking heartbroken I just wanted to die. Friend at the time had a bf that was pushing here, so I got it alll for free. A fucking shit ton of them. I went off the deep end and I don't know how much I was using a day but it basically blanked out a complete 3 months of my life. I became a klepto, had sex I couldn't even remember having with various people, cut my legs into oblivion, basically wanting a slow, drawn out suicide.

I guess it was the fact it made me forget my feelings and completely detached me from having to cope with my emotions. Luckily when I became homeless I got arrested for tripping balls and looking suspicious as fuck at target, talking to trees and imaginary people..and my ass got sent to rehab. (Got news there was a warrant for my arrest there a month in but only spent a night in jail)

Unfortunately it resulted in my developing tics and seizures that have landed me in the hospital several times. I've since kicked the habit for the most part (sometimes rarely using it to sleep) but it sucks because any anxiety I had before had been 1000x worse since I stopped. I don't know why my brain/body wants to return to a "high" you can barely fucking remember and that makes you act dumb as hell.

I'm on probation now so drugs are few and far between now. I just take my adderall, occasionally smoke some weed, and get a little tipsy now and then. Maybe roll on special days but also rare. Anything else is a waste because I've realized I have an addictive as fuck personality and it wastes money that could be used on something…useful.

Idk kinda rambling because it's 4AM but I hope anyone reading this that has chosen drugs to deal with the problems in your life…its just not worth it. I swear. You'll come out of it and realize what a fool you were while taking them and not handling what you are feeling inside. It doesn't make anything better, just way, WAY worse. I'm here as a listening ear and guiding advice if you need help. You're not broken and there is beauty inside you if you choose to seek it out.

No. 188466

Its a social thing with my friends so I might as well, honestly the headaches aren't unbearable or anything just annoying. Plus I have trouble sleeping so I can just go home and go to sleep quickly

No. 188470

I smoke weed daily.

Tried mushrooms. They're nice, but I prefer weed. Would still take them on special occasions.

Tried mdma. Vomited the entire time. The high itself is nice but it's just not worth it when it's getting constantly eclipsed by nausea, never doing it again.

Tried speed. It made me very agitated and angry, it was an extremely unpleasant feeling. Never doing it again, and I cannot understand why people do it.

No. 188481

Yes. Yesterday I went to a party and some friends consumed and they start acting super annoying and agressive. It was so unpleasant to watch that I don't want to try coke. Also, if you start consuming often you get a weird belly fat and crazy eyes.

Sounds like a creepypasta but it can be perfectly true. It depends of the drugs, the quality and price the dealer sells. Expensive strains weed dealers are the chill stoner archetype, very nice and cool. If you want some cheaper and least pure you have to go to some shady places.

No. 190725

i'll be doing LSD for the first time in a few days. i presume the experience will change from person to person but what should i watch out for?

No. 190726


samefagging but out of all the drugs i did i only hated cocaine. it only made me feel wired, cranky and isolated. maybe i used some bad shit but if it's like that all the time i don't get why people use it.

No. 190728

it's easier to handle than shrooms just ride it out and stay hydrated.

No. 190751

I ordered some 1p-LSD and it will arrive soon. I've never did any psychedelics before, just lots of weed for some period of time and I tried MDMA a couple of times. I'm gonna take it alone at my home to try it out. What should I do to make it a good experience? And is 100µg a good dose?

No. 190752

Lol, just saw your post now, I'm >>190751. If you stay at home too do you want to chat over discord or something perhaps?

No. 191330

Are you guys okay?

No. 191366

Fuck I'd love to do that but I'm terrified and I'd probably get busted. If you bitches aren't lying I'm damn jealous.

No. 191381


hello, i'm the first LSD anon. our deal predictably fell thru. waiting for an update, it's still a possibility but without a definite date.

doing acid alone-chan, have a trip sitter with you because that's my plan. never do drugs alone for the first time. it could be wild if we could chat through discord during, but it's a slim chance unfortunately. have a safe fun trip.

No. 191504

I wish I read this sooner. Because I dropped it yesterday. I can share my experience if you want. I didn't had a tripsitter because I don't really have that much friends, but I was chatting with a couple of oversea friends online so they "tripsitted" me in the beginning.

At first I cut off a small edge of the blotter and kept it in my mouth to allergy test it for an hour. Since I didn't feel anything I took the rest of the 100µg. Placed it under my tongue and let it sit there for ~20 minutes. I think around ~40 minutes after taking it I started to feel effects. I felt heavy was sinking into my chair at the PC. (I was still chatting online and looking at "trippy" pictures) Then I looked at an amazing photograph of a waterfall, that looked ultra HD and started to visually "distort". I remember writing into the chat something like "guys I think it's starting" and looked around my rooms and noticed my walls were moving a bit and the lights of the monitor were shifting like those old VHS tapes. So I went to bed and let a playlist running. I could go more into detail if you want but basically: I wrote a huge letter to myself, saying that many things in my life that are giving me a lot of anxiety aren't so bad after all. That I really stopped giving so much of a shit. That everything will be fine and that deeply inside me is something that is bright and glowing and watching me. And that this thing inside me only wants my best.

I then let this kind of music playing, because I sadly ruined a lot of my peaking because the music you find online that is "trippy psy chill" stuff all started to sound super weird to me and I really didn't want to feel a bad mood. Finally I let this here running that I created now for next time https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL3YAGkr6hg4WTbeIeGDfzjVCucGDzHY4 that ends with a super relaxed 24/7 radio station. Oh and that video was amazing, too https://vimeo.com/88829079.

I was really afraid that meeting my "inner self" would be a bad thing. Because I always thought I have a lot of self hatred, social anxiety and depression. But seems like the something that is hurting me is the active part, not the subconcious. I even put huge towels covering all mirrors, because I've heard of people seeing themselves as Monsters and such things. So I was curious, at first I looked at a just my pupils, that were quite big. Then I was amazed, I looked at my face and just thought I look incredibly cute. Like a bug eyed happy hippie. Wearing a colorful hoodie was also beautiful.

Another breakthrough that I had was that I finally got over my Ex, that left me crying in the shower and bed as recent as the day before. I finally thought about that this douchebag was just never worth my time, that it's not his fault. He's just that kind of person, and that's okay. I spend the rest getting super comfy in bed, sometimes standing up and dancing a bit with my plushtoy cat that I was hugging. Drawing a lot and for some reason re-arranging my room to make it more comfortable.

Then I was considering even going out, because the sun was shining, but I was a little bit too anxious for that. Perhaps when I'm more experienced and not alone.

Overall it was an amazing experience. And I can't wait to wait 14 days to try it again :3 I don't want to do this regular but currently I'm not in school or college till summer, and working shitty retail jobs, so I want to do this for a bit till life gets serious. I know this sounds underage, but I'm 21, I just take a bit more time.

Surpringsly I didn't get 100% sober even after like 20 hours. I didn't feel mentally high but it didn't go away completely till I slept. If you have any more questions we can chat on discord or something.

Now the day after I feel a bit blue. I don't know if depression is just coming back or if that will go away after a while. But even though the feeling is gone, I really feel like the conclusion of this all will stay with me.

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I smoke weed a couple of time a week now that I'm dating my bf and going out more. I can't drink (overheating, headaches, etc.) so weed is my party drug. I've done ecstasy once and acid almost 10? times I would say. Ecstasy just gave me a bad headache when I became thirsty and acid is my favorite drug. Not interested in doing anything else that's not a psychedelic tbh - DMT, shrooms, peyote, ayahuasca, etc Might be getting a shroom connect soon :)

No. 191547

been sober for a few months now so i can pass a drug test to get a better job, homies light one up for me pls

No. 191548

I've done coke a few times but I found it very underwhelming. Sure it's a nice boost but so what? Listening to a great song will give me the same effect really. And the comedown is shit. Speed/E is kind of fun but not worth it either.
Weed makes me panic.
Booze is the only drug I like, I'd love to try a hallucinogen but I'm too afraid of a bad trip considering how I react to weed.

No. 191549

Weird that you can handle cocaine and not weed.

No. 191550

Not quoted anon, but I'm the exact same. Coke just feels like stronger caffeine =, whereas weed is just terrifying.

Weird enough, lsd is fine too

No. 191552

I've never tried any other drugs before, but weed triggers horrible existential dread and paranoia for me. I've tried many strains, but they all have this same effect. And my friends are major potheads who keep trying to get me to smoke and say that I'm overreacting/it's good/ weed is medicine from the earth, etc.

No. 191553

Not hating on weed or anything, but it just annoys me how some people are so deep into "pot culture" that they refuse to acknowledge some people have bad reactions to it. Yes, I know it's a miracle herb for some people, just not me for whatever physiological reason.

No. 191555

I wonder how many other addicts are here? I prefer to smoke weed because it cures a lot of my PTSD and depression symptoms without any downsides but if I don't have that I'm on to alcohol, pain killers, benzos, I've even abused nyquil and benedryl when I was desperate. And if I can't get my hands on any of that I'll just shove food down my throat until I pass out. It's pretty unhealthy.

I really want to try psychedelics. I feel it would be more therapeutic for me but I have no idea where to get it and I don't have any friends to sit trip. How necessary is it to have someone there with you? Anybody have experience buying LSD or other psychedelics on DNM? I would do that but it seems really sketchy. I would hate to die or go crazy or waste my money in general from getting acid that isn't acid.

I agree. Honestly I feel ashamed to call myself a stoner or a regular smoker because then people think I'm lazy or obsessed with weed or think weed is the cure to every disease and ailment and everyone should smoke weed. I can't stand those people myself, but they make me feel like smoking weed is something I shouldn't tell people.

My best friend has ADHD and has the same reactions to coke and weed, maybe it's something like that.

No. 191572

I'm the opposite. I can handle weed but any stimulants or other drugs that cause tachycardia fuck me up bad. Even caffeine causes an panic attack and I feel like I'm going to die and need to be hospitalized.

Doesn't help that that one kid died from caffeine overdose.

Too much THC in it for you and not enough CBD. Weed's psychoactive effects (THC) are much stronger than they were just a decade ago. Some people can handle it and some can't.

No. 191573

They're completely different drugs though, I know weed is considered mild and all but I just react badly to it, and I've tried it a lot.
It just depends on the person and past experiences.

No. 191574


Same… I lose it completely. I enjoy drugs but weed just makes me feel so uncomfortable. I can't explain it.
That's why I don't want to try any hallucinogens. I'm really curious about them too, but if I react this badly to weed (technically a mild hallucinogen) then a bad trip on any stronger drugs is not going to be pretty. Shame.

No. 191619

>Too much THC in it for you and not enough CBD. Weed's psychoactive effects (THC) are much stronger than they were just a decade ago.

Not an Anon you where replying to, but holy shit really​? Got any links on that it'd be interesting.

Do you think the amount of THC in weed increases by year because at 21 I swear I'm getting way more fucked up than when I was 15 or 16. And I've been smoking pretty consistently.

No. 191624


Here are a few. There's more sites that did articles about this but I can't get into them because I have adblock and sites like Forbes wants you to disable it for le money. Just google "Marijuana Potency Levels".

The CBS News video is pretty on point when the guy talks about THC vs CBD levels. Like he said, the medicinal component (CBD) isn't really there anymore in most strains. You can still cop high CBD strains online though if you live in a legal state OR 100% CBD strains in any state if you've got any type of pain and want to try it out. People claim it helps their seizures and joint pain, etc.

No. 191641

I just started smoking weed a month ago (im 23 and never tried it before this year) and its changed my life. I picked up a portable vape (not a vape pen) that is designed for weed and while it was expensive, holy shit.

I take a couple of hits before I get ready for bed and I sleep so well. I dont wake up during the night, and when my alarm goes off I feel so refreshed im able to get right up. A vape means no overwhelming smell which my boyfriend cant stand, and I can just turn it on, take two or three hits, and turn it off.

Im lucky because I live somewhere that weed isnt illegal so i'm able to go in to a dispensary and talk to the employees about what im wanting to get from weed and they give me recommendations.

No. 191642

You can legally buy straight CBD tinctures and oils for consumption in almost every US state. Many people will vape or dab straight CBD oils after hitting flower.

I live in a red southern state and I've never had trouble buying CBD straight from sources, say from Colorado (which I use for pain and anxiety). I assume anyone who complains about weed strains not having enough THC just haven't done enough research to know where they can get CBD extracts online.

Note: Do research where you buy CBD, and don't buy from any company not willing to provide the lab results of their samples.

No. 191643

Whoops, I meant to say weed strains not having enough CBD.

No. 191652


wow anon, thanks for sharing this with me, the whole thing sounds so introspective and beautiful. i'll now go forth armed with the knowledge that if i look inside, i may see beautiful things, just like you.

No. 191797

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I have been regularly (about once a week, usually weekends) smoking weed for a couple of years now. I'm in uni so I take 2-3 week breaks in exam periods because while I haven't noticed any other side effects my short term memory can be kind of impaired the day after.

I have been taking pure mdma once every three months at home with my bf or friends. None of the ridiculously high dosing or cutting with speed you see at parties, just the powder. I have never experienced any negative side effects, a hangover or a harsh comedown. Everything has always been 100% beautiful and I've been doing this for two years. It's probably because of the purity (I've had it tested since you can do that legally and without consequence in my country and it's 99% pure) and the time I leave in between (I really don't want to fry my brain and fuck up my serotonin receptors).

Furthermore I've tried 2CB about 5 times in varying doses, which is nice and apparently very similar to LSD in the doses I've taken. 4FA is a nice replacement for MDMA if my three months aren't over yet. I've tried cocaine, but I didn't really get the hype. Was probably one of the more mediocre drugs I've tried, although oxycodone was very boring too.
Tried ketamine a bunch of times and it's nice. Especially in higher doses it's really something else and makes me more introspective than I'd thought. Plus it actually cures depression for two weeks which is a very nice side effect.

Nitrous oxide is pretty lame when done on it's own but truly shines when done in combination with other substances. Nitrous and weed is already good, nitrous and mdma is amazing, nitrous and 2cB is absolutely orgasmic. Truly hippie crack, "I see the meaning of the universe" tier. (Which is why it's good to not have too much on hand since you'll binge without really noticing.)
I tried LSA and just got extremely sick for almost an entire day. Maybe it was just a bad batch, but I'm not eager to repeat that shit.

Will likely be trying shrooms for the first time in a week, wish me luck farmers!

No. 191835

Have fun!

Shrooms can give a great visual experience (they enhance lights, colours and patterns) which is wasted if you are indoors, so I strongly advise you to go out in nature, or at least out in the yard, or sit on your balcony if you live in a building and not a house (I did that, and the city lights looked magical).

No. 191837

Ive read about ketamine 'curing' depression, Im pretty interested honestly; Ive got to that point where Im just willing to whatever it takes to feel better. Im not sure how to go about it tho, I only smoke weed Ive never done anything more than that so I dont really know if it would be a bad idea… I really know nothing about drugs aside from all the scary stuff from hs health classes

I used to be pretty anti-drug use (for myself, igaf what others chose to do as long as they arnt being dumb about it) but right now im a point where I really dont care about my own morals anymore, I just want to be happy even for a few mintutes at most

No. 191843

This here, ladies, is a sure path to addiction.

Don't do it, any of it. Using drugs as a crutch when you're in a bad spot instead of using them recreationally when you've got yourself together is what makes addicts. It won't heal you, instead it will open up the door to a whole new, worse hell. It will alleviate the depression symptoms in the short run, it will destroy you in the long run.

Please, I beg you, don't even think about it. I am scared for you. I don't know you, but I know one more struggling addict is one more step further from the world me, you, and all of us want to live in.

No. 191853

Try ketamine. Just moderate your use or do it once. Idk what >>191843 is on about because unless you have an addictive personality, its only easy to get addicted to retard drugs like heroin and crack.

Experience that shit. I've used morphine, codeine, and dissociatives for my depression and I'm not suddenly a drug addicted asshole lmao

No. 191864

You may not be drug addicted, but you're definitely an asshole

No. 191870

No. 191877

Cool, if you want to be a lab rat.

But I hope anon values their life more than that.

No. 191879

What's wrong with trying new treatments while furthering scientific research and our understanding of how the drug could help us? If you're depressed and nothing else is working then fuck it, be a lab rat and at the very least you're aiding in valuable scientific/medical research.

No. 191882

Because they're not in the lab. They're not part of a controlled experiment.

Nobody will know or notice the effects, nobody will know or notice their struggle, nobody will know or notice when they die.

No. 191901

I reread what I wrote after I posted it, and I realised I made myself sound a bit a psycho, I totally get what you are saying, but honestly im being pretty overdramatic. If If I do anything I want to do it as safely as possible, which is why I came here to ask first. Thank you a lot of being concerned tho anon

No. 191906

Honestly anon, I think it would be good to try it. Ketamine is not a strong high at all when not in a very high dose. If you start craving it afterwards it would be wise to not do it for a while, but otherwise it's not dangerous.

I think you might be misunderstanding the depression "cure" that ketamine can provide. It isn't in the high of the drug itself and has nothing to do with it. You won't crave another hit or anything to feel less depressed. You can even take such a low dose you'll barely feel it for the effects to be present.
Ketamine high only lasts for an hour. Doesn't have any negative after effects except for a gross taste in your mouth for a few hours tops. The "depression curing" can be present in the weeks after taking.
For me, I never felt "high" or anything like that in the weeks after taking it, but I did notice my depression lessened by quite a bit.

No. 191908

I am not misunderstanding anything.

I'm saying don't play with fire while you live in a coal mine.

No. 191915

Yeah I feel like I didn't explain myself correctly, I dont want to get high and distract myself from whats wrong for like an hour (I know I kind of said that, but I was really just being dramatic tbh) I just want to feel better like, in general and if it works then why not

No. 191934

Holy fucking shit dealer had a new strain of hash and its the most potent shit i have smoked in the last year, I even had to cap my joint cause it was so instant,
Its good to be a l i v e

No. 191935


Bitch I'm high af too, could only take like three pulls from my mini bong

No. 192144

HOLy shit girl i am morning toking on this new strain and its the best ride ever,
Bout to go out and draw so much good shit in this sunny weather, my spine feels like vanilla pudding

No. 192630

How do you fellow weed smoking farmers manage your tolerance?
I live in the Netherlands so weed is legal, potent and not so expensive, but because of a high tolerance I still have to smoke a shitton to get mildly stoned. I've been looking into using agmatine and it does help, but I still need a lot.

No. 192637

I just take breaks

No. 192643

Take a break for like a month. That ought to clear your system.

No. 192674

Take breaks and look into edibles next time you start again. For one person, a half gram to full gram firecracker gets them high af.

No. 192684


Like the others said, take a break when you feel your tolerance is too high. I took a month break for other reasons and it works.

No. 192761


on the contrary, the more i smoke the easier i get high. people in my country believe that that THC builds up in your body after a while and you need just a small amount to "refresh" your high. this sounds like just stoner talk tho, too good to be true.

No. 193147

I've read some stuff on serotonin syndrome and SSRI effectiveness when mixed with other drugs.. But could someone chime in with their own experiences?

I'm really nervous for my boyfriend, he's on sertraline but has smoked weed almost every day for like the past 5 years probably (same as me). Usually a bowl or few bong rips, more on weekends. The sertraline was prescribed rather recently, and I'm wondering if the consistent weed use is making it basically a placebo pill. I know it's hard to judge the effectiveness of antidepressants…

No. 193184

Better to ask a medical professional who specializes in SSRIs.
Better he quit the weed for a while than risk stopping his real medication.

No. 193191

I went to the hospital before because of serotonin syndrome. I was taking sertraline but overdosed on it. you'll know if it happens, it's incredibly disorienting. it almost feels like you're dreaming but you're awake, and for me I was very dizzy and had trouble speaking.

I'm not too sure about mixing weed with sertraline because I never smoked heavily on it. I found I got stoned faster when I was taking it. I think, like drinking, smoking definitely alters the effectiveness of your medication, but SS probably won't sneak up on you, he'd feel it happen if my experience was standard at all.

No. 193192

I have been a chronic pot smoker for about 4 years and the entire time I was on sertraline. It worked the same as it did before I started smoking. I stopped taking the sertraline 6 months ago and still smoke weed everyday and I can feel my depression/anxiety returning.

Basically, I wouldn't worry about the two drugs cancelling each other; in my experience weed didn't effect my antidepressants at all.

No. 193193

smoking weed is not going to give him serotonin syndrome. Besides serotonin syndrome is completely harmless.

No. 193209

! i'm not the person you're replying to but i was just considering this today. i've avoided weed for years since i started sertraline because the meds finally give me a semblance of normalcy and happiness that i would never trade for a high. but this has me interested.

do you mind if i ask what dose of sertraline you were on? (also why you stopped and do you plan on getting back on it, sorry 4 asking 4 blog)

No. 193214

thanks, the descriptions of SS online are all awful!

No. 193223

I was taking 100 mg, but I think I probably could have had a higher dose. I stopped taking it for two reasons. First, my weight was really bothering me and I was having trouble keeping it under control while on meds. I know that's superficial, but I have never been able to lose weight while on SSRIs. (I've lost 15 pounds without any effort since stopping.) Second, I was thinking about starting a family and I don't want to be on sertraline while pregnant.

I have felt my symptoms returning recently, unfortunately. I think I might try something different this time and HOPE it doesn't kill my metabolism like the zoloft. For now I'm trying to go without but I am still taking trazodone, so I'm not totally med-free.

Back to the weed, I think you could probably try smoking again and see how you feel. I have a friend I always smoke with and she is also on SSRIs and they are fairly effective despite her heavy bong habit. Of course everyone reacts differently so I'd make sure to pay extra attention to your symptoms just in case I'm wrong.

sage for blog post

No. 193759


i smoked weed regularly when on fluoxetine, duloxetine and sertraline. when i first started on fluoxetine (prozac), the first time i smoked weed i suddenly felt very hot, anxious and hyperactive, similar to an extacy high but without the happiness-relaxation. i did not experience any adverse effects when i was on the other two. my doctor at the time told me that while what i experienced was not seratonine syndrome, drugs can trigger shit like that when you're on antidepressants. she basically told me "do it but don't overdo it" regarding weed and antidepressants.

the second shrink i saw was a more uptight, conservative type and told me to absolutely abstain from any drug or any amount of alcohol as they would "shock my brain by changing my brain chemistry and negate the effects of the medicine". i followed his advice for a while but then i started smoking again and saw no change in my mood or in the efficacy of the medicine.

only thing i'm for sure about SSRIs and drugs is when you're on SSRIs you can't get a very potent high from extacy-MDMA because their effects clash.

sage for blogging-ish.

No. 195023

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I smoke weed pretty often but I know jack shit about strains, etiquette or anything, just smoke whatever my friends have on hand. Normally all it does is make me hungry and sleepy, usually with a small headache which sucks.
The other day tho I felt actually stoned for the first time ever after smoking with a bunch of randos, I felt majorly sick and headachy already, amplified it by like 200% but I didn't give a shit and everything was fucking hilarious. like a stereotypical stoner in a high school movie. I always thought there was something… wrong? with me but I guess I was just doing the wrong shit this whole time. felt good man

no idea what it was but it tasted pretty strong and I only had two pulls, my tolerance is pretty low lmao.

No. 195135

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i'm pretty much like you about weed, i'm about smoking it not writing an essay on it, but i learned that sativa makes you more energetic whereas indica makes you more mellow. maybe pic related will help you identify what you smoked?

also, drinking water while smoking weed helps with the headaches. if you're mixing it with tobacco, that may be what's giving you nausea.

No. 195136

What this anon said. I got massive headaches every time I smoked too, and I finally realized that's because I was using Swishers (because I like the taste.) I don't smoke cigarettes, so the tobacco leaf is definitely what was doing it.

No. 195155

god you are all disgusting

No. 195176

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Is being prescribed the wrong meds and taking lithium and another drug a thing?
First and only drug I took. The first night was horrifying; I laid in bed feeling like my body was petrified. The whole night my legs would be pressed together and i wouldn't stop bunny kicking the whole night. The internal feeling was like going up in a fast elevator. It felt astral projection. Never again.

No. 195179

cool thanks for the input anon. earth shattering.

the uhh..first part of that confuses me. but im assuming you took a medication you were not prescribed with a medication you were. in which case, having fucked up side effects makes complete sense. what with how medications interact with each other. not to mention if it were the wrong medication and at a dosage that was too high, chances were pretty high you'd experience some weird shit.

im really sorry you went through that. ive been given the wrong meds in hospitals before and had some pretty serious things happen to me. that shit is frightening.

No. 195191

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It's REALLY really common to smoke weed for a long time and not really feel the affects. I swear I smoked for two years with mates or something before I was BTFO one day and suddenly understood what everyone was going on about.

No. 195203

Maybe you guys are not hitting it right. I'm serious. Inhale. Hold in. Exhale. Some people are retarded.

No. 195205

ugh, i've been a regular smoker for about 6 years now (multiple times a day). i smoke like people smoke cigarettes, y'know? i don't feel it anymore, but i can't seem to not smoke. i want to take a t-break but it's hard.

No. 195208

Hide your shit somewhere that's a pain to get and just do like 2-3 days, it's way easier once you just do it and it feels amazing

No. 195214

will 3 days really do anything though? my family is going through a lot right now, so every time i put my bowl down something happens, i get stressed, and i smoke again…

No. 195220

How accessible is this stuff to you? When I start feeling that way I don't buy, and then even when I want some I live in a red state with unreliable dealers, so it makes it more satisfying when I can get some good stuff again.

No. 195222

lmao my dealer is a good friend of mine and super reliable. always good shit, too.

No. 195225

No, it won't. Not enough time for it to be cleared out of your system. 2-3 weeks is more like it. Though you'll build up tolerance again in no time when you start again. Only the first few bowls will hit you hard, after that they'll be back to smoking them like cigs.

But whether or not you find enjoyment in weed is irrelevant, you've got far more pressing issues to sort out, of which weed is a part of. This
>so every time i put my bowl down something happens, i get stressed, and i smoke again
is typical addict denial. Excuses, excuses.
Everyone has serious problems all the time. You have to face them, not run away from them. Or they'll catch up with you with double the force.

Drugs, no matter how benign they seem, are not a crutch. Listen to me. Weed WILL fuck you up if you use it as a tool for escapism. It will fuck you up by making the underlying issues fester.

Sober up. Face reality. Push through it. Then light up a bowl when you're in a good place again. Please. Do what's good for you now, no matter how hard it is. Because this way, you're just making it harder for future you. And the future you is the skin you'll have to live in.

No. 195229

It takes a while to be actually reaaally aware of the high, especially when you're really young and you're learning the difference between intoxication and sobriety.

No. 195251

I appreciate it anon. I've been trying to smoke less when I'm in a negative mood but sometimes it's that crutch, just like you said.

No. 195252

I need to fix myself. I need to bring myself to being a better person, and maybe I need to stop smoking to do it.

No. 195254

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Me too. It was my first time going to a doctor for my depression and the doctor I had didn't have much experience and assumed i was bipolar even though i mentioned in passing my adopted sister was. She put me on mis prescribed shit for a year before my psychologist told me what she was doing was shutting my body down with all the side effects.

It was horrible but now I know how I feel when on drugs and I did not enjoy it one bit. Not knocking people who do but shit how do people do this recreationally?

No. 195267

Tried ket, coke, 2cb, mushrooms, weed, md, prescription opiates. This isn't fair, why does coke have to be my favorite, why do I have such a weirdly naturally high tolerance to md and weed (it seems), ugh

No. 195510

Went to a music festival last week. Tried acid again for the first time in a year. My two previous trips had been bad, but this one was great! I took about 80-90 ug and sat in the sun all day. Really cleared out my head without any stress. Definitely the kind of trip I was looking for. Also I guess less is more when it comes to acid.

Also I tried dancing on molly for the first time. It was ok but I had to go to the bathroom three times in an hour.

No. 209206

So I help take care of my grandma and they are trying out cannabis oil to help with pain, and my dumb ass gave her three droppers full or medicine thinking it was the correct dose. It's not, they mean three drops fuck me is she in for a trip. Hope this shit doesn't last long, if any one has any advice that would be great.

No. 209257

did she end up getting blasted? i'm genuinely interested in how she reacted to that much medication

No. 209260

It may be THC free. In which case, she shouldn't trip.

No. 209261

Pot, coke, acid, mescaline, ecstasy, mushrooms, basically all the pain killers.
Also salvia, but that doesn't count to me.
I feel like I may be leaving something off but oh well.

The only one I use regularly anymore is pot, and not even as regular as usual because I cut back big time to get a job.

No. 209262

Rarely alcohol and mushrooms, more frequently pot or nitrous oxide, which I believe is classed as a dissociative drug and I think lots of fun, it's like having a long orgasm in some way.

When I have the money, heroin. I prefer to snort it, but if I can only get tar, I'll take that. I don't shoot, I'm afraid of needles and I wouldn't have a clue how to do it.

I'm sure someone will be a jerk about this but heroin makes me feel relaxed and happy. I like myself when I'm on it. I get more talkative and friendly. It's not easy for me to be open, but heroin makes me likeable.

No. 209263


You're retarded

No. 209271


Opium, that is the one I was forgetting… Maybe because it was so forgettable…

No. 209272

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Update she was just really, really, and I mean really relaxed and calm the whole day.
She has arthritis and dementia, so she is always in pain/anxiety. The plus side to it was she had no pain all day, but it was way over the dose we have been starting her on.

Also yes THC free

No. 209273

I've only smoke, drank, and smoked weed. I'm waiting until next year when it becomes more easily accessible in California.

No. 209314

Bought opium off the dark net and it was absolute bullshit, didn't do a thing. The seller was reputable and had good ratings too. What a waste.

No. 209347

i've done a fair amount of prescription opiates and benzos, amphetamines, weed, mushrooms, acid, dmt, salvia, sass, spice/k2, nitrous, some testing chemicals on accident…i think that's about it.

i regularly use cannabis in concentrate form, i prefer indica strains. it's just more convenient and plus my tolerance is fucked lol. i've been smoking concentrates everyday for about 5 years now.

i also like to trip 2 or 3 times a year on either shrooms or dmt. shrooms are my favorite

aaaand overall i think my favorite substances are cannabis obviously, morphine and dmt.

No. 209644


I used to do coke in my late teens/early twenties and I really enjoyed it. It basically cured my social anxiety completely. I know it's bad for you and expensive but I honestly had nothing but positive experiences with it. I think about it a lot, but that being said, I don't think I'll ever do it again.

No. 210238

I'm sorry this is so long but I wanna be honest and I have NEVER met someone who's done more drugs than me. this list does not include all the psych meds I've been prescribed over the years, probably about 15-20 at this point. my favorite drugs are mushrooms (which I grew myself for years), DMT (which I extracted myself a few times), and opiates. I was addicted to heroin for 6 years. I've been clean for almost a year and I'm doing really good now. I don't want to go back to my life before. I don't want to deal drugs anymore or do them. I would enjoy doing mushrooms and DMT again before I die though. if you wanna hear some stories let me know.

started doing drugs at 13;

DXM (cough syrup)
caffeine (to get high)
methylphenidate (Concerta AKA Ritalin)
DPH (benadryl)
nitrous oxide (laughing gas)
(from here on I was 18+)
cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril)
hydroxyzine (Atarax)
salvinorin A (aka salvia)
clonazepam (Klonopin)
diazepam (Valium)
bk-MDMA (methylone)
psliocin (mushrooms)
4-MMC (mephadrone)
tizanidine (Zanaflex)
oxymorphone (Opana)
troparil (CPT)
alprazolam (Xanax)
crack cocaine
lorazepam (Ativan)
kava kava
metaxalone (Skelaxin)

No. 210239

Jesus christ, anon. The only story I want is why?

No. 210240

I've also done phenobarbital and baclofen. I forgot them somehow

No. 210241

because I didn't know how to deal with trauma from my childhood and dealt with my problems by focusing on doing as many drugs as I possibly could. I wanted to learn something but I just harmed myself. I'm lucky I'm not fucking dead right now

No. 210258

I used to be a pretty prolific drug user - was even a homeless addict at one point - but I’m now clean of everything (don’t even smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol). Have taken:

Marijuana/Hash (in various forms)*
Amphetamines (speed/base)*
Mephedrone (M-KAT)*
NPS (legal highs)

*Was addicted to/reliant on
Now my nose is fucked, heart and bladder are weak AF, and cognitive mental functions suck…

No. 210259

what the fuck is nutmeg a drug

No. 210280

I've heard you can snort it or smoke it, but never actually seen anyone try.

No. 210281

you can't snort it lol. you have to grind it from the actual nut and take a ton of huge tablespoons. not really worth it but I did it when I was like 15 after reading stuff online

No. 210758

i really like smoking weed but i don't know a whole lot about it. where i live it's super illegal so it's sold very hush-hush. we can't ask about the strains because dealers usually don't know what they're selling and the supply is inconsistent; most times you can't buy what you liked a second time and sometimes you can't buy weed period. in your experience, what are some basic things i can look at to identify the different strains? how the most common strains effect the body? i know i should have googled it but i feel like i can trust you guys more.

No. 211044

I started messing around with drugs around age 16. Mostly just molly at raves, and lots of drinking. It wasn't until I was around 25 and I discovered dark net and research chemicals that I got in over my head. Started using a ketamine analog (designer drug) called methoxetamine nearly every day. Accidentally overdosed a few times. Lost my husband b/c he couldn't deal with my shit anymore. I also had (have) a problem with alcohol.

I finally got clean and I've been sober over a year now. Though I do still smoke weed every now and then.

No. 211688

oxycodone, hydromorphone, morphine, heroin. i'm one of those ppl who think everything else pales in comparison. i've been trying to get clean (and stay clean) for a while now but fuck me it's hard.

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